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That Olaf is terrifying.
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Didn't We have enough Disney On Ice shows based on Frozen? They have lot of stories to tell.
I'm not sure about Encanto. It worked really well the first months but I think that part of this succese was due to tiktok trends with the soundtrack's songs...
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Thumper_93 wrote:Didn't We have enough Disney On Ice shows based on Frozen? They have lot of stories to tell.
Agreed. And speaking of which, shouldn`t Frozen II be adapted into a Disney on Ice show? After all, it`s a full-length, theatrical sequel to Frozen and could`ve been adapted into that format.
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It's a good thing Mirabel already looked like a 30 year old school teacher in the film, it'll make it easier for actors twice the character's age to play her.
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^ :lol:
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^ Seconded! :lol:

I also agree with DisneyFan09.
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Princess Raya of ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Becoming Official Disney Princess
https://wdwnt.com/2022/08/princess-raya ... -princess/
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That's to be expected given how Raya and the Last Dragon wasn't able to launch its own franchise. The real question is will Mirabel be joining? Encanto is doing really well on streaming and Chapek did call it a "Disney franchise", but there is a difference between a media franchise and a consumer products franchise. Is its popularity on streaming translating into merch sales? 'Cause it isn't for Moana.

Anyway, it's such a shame Raya and the Last Dragon wasn't a musical. Raya will be the only member in the line-up without an 'I Want' song. Even Merida has "Touch the Sky".

By the way, will Raya be getting a coronation ceremony? The article doesn't say, but it seems unlikely given Moana didn't get one.
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They'll all join eventually. Even Anna & Elsa, maybe a decade from now when the merchandise isn't quite as booming (but still better than most of the others), which is why they always market them with the DP line simultaneously it seems.

I'm only surprised Raya wasn't inducted sooner. Raya and Encanto never really stood a chance at their own franchises because of the pandemic, if even Moana couldn't manage it in normal times.
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I liked what they did with Cinderella in that video.
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I thought I'd "wear" this banner set again in honor of Raya officially joining the line and becoming a Disney Princess now. :) It would be nice if Raya got a Disney+ series (although of course I still hold out hope for a full-on sequel!)) of some kind where she's given a musical theme. That said, I think "Lead the Way" is a decent theme for her as much as the movie itself.
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Farerb wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:12 pm We Are Legends:
https://youtu.be/OrWu5p-jO4Q
Thanks for posting that video, Farerb! I liked how Pocahontas was included in various shots than just one.
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Moana was inducted a long time ago. She's now regularly featured with the other princesses on Disney Princess-branded products. She just didn't get a coronation ceremony and Raya most likely won't get one either. It seems Disney has moved away from that.
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Sotiris wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:05 pm Moana was inducted a long time ago. She's now regularly featured with the other princesses on Disney Princess-branded products. She just didn't get a coronation ceremony and Raya most likely won't get one either. It seems Disney has moved away from that.
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An interview with author Emily Zemler on Disney Princess: Beyond The Tiara
https://animatedviews.com/2022/an-inter ... the-tiara/

I thought that these things were interesting!
In the book, my favorite image is in chapter 3, about the merchandising. When Snow White came out, they made Snow White bleach and Snow White ammonia to clean the home. I found a picture of that on an old blog and our photo researcher was able to track down a usable image.
USPS Princesses stamps collection. That artwork had never been seen before...they were never printed. So, we were able to get copies of the art from archives.
The original animators, in the early years of Disney, were not fashion designers. It was male designers who needed a beautiful ball gown. They were probably – and this is just a supposition – looking at their wives’ fashion magazines at home and seeing images of Dior’s “New Look”, they would think that would make a beautiful gown for Cinderella. So, Cinderella’s gown looks like Dior’s “New Look” gown from the same time.
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Number of products available per character on the U.S. ShopDisney website as of December 2022.

Jasmine: 96 products
Ariel: 94 products
Cinderella: 93 products
Belle: 87 products
Tiana: 78 products
Snow White: 63 products
Elsa: 62 products
Rapunzel: 47 products
Anna: 41 products
Aurora: 37 products
Moana: 30 products
Pocahontas: 28 products
Mulan: 26 products
Raya: 20 products
Merida: 15 products
Mirabel: 12 products


Number of products available per movie on the U.S. ShopDisney website as of December 2022.

The Little Mermaid: 117 products
Frozen: 109 products
Cinderella: 101 products
Beauty and the Beast: 95 products
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: 93 products
Aladdin: 88 products
The Princess and the Frog: 83 products
Sleeping Beauty: 70 products
Tangled: 56 products
Encanto: 61 products
Moana: 44 products
Pocahontas: 27 products
Mulan: 24 products
Raya and the Last Dragon: 20 products
Brave: 16 products
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Cinderella, forever third. I don't mind. 3 is my favorite number!

Thanks for that interview stuff Amy!
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Sort of interesting there are so few Mirabel products considering Encanto was the #1 streaming film of the year (and there are so many Encanto products in comparison). Maybe if her design had been slightly less goofy...? :lol:

Aladdin 2019 really reignited and reinvigorated Jasmine. And I'm glad they're actually go all out in merchandising for Tiana. I was scared they might do the sort of thing they did with Strange World, as far as giving her Disney+ and Splash Mountain content, but not betting on her in merchandise. Glad that's not the case. Hopefully Tiana reignites some interest in TP&TF, too. :) Sort of looks to me like both Elsa and Aurora have fallen off a little bit--with Frozen so high on the other list, perhaps it's because people get sets that include both the sisters (and perhaps Olaf as well) over solo character products? Poor Mulan. The people who made that stinker of a remake should be giving Disney backpay for the damage they did to the property. :roll: :lol:
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If anyone's surprised about Snow White's meteoric rise, I heard that official Snow White products are selling like hotcakes lately because people are afraid Disney is going to stop producing merch for the property soon. All of the controversies surrounding the film and the fact Disney easily caves to critics nowadays have gotten people spooked!
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