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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:02 am 
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AHS has been renewed for 3 more seasons, the first of which is Apocalypse this Fall. It's a crossover of Murder House and Coven. There's a crapload of returning cast, including Kathy Bates, Jessica Lange (for one episode), Frances Conroy, Lily Rabe, Gabourey Sidibe, Emma Roberts, etc., although I haven't read anything about Angela Bassett yet. Hopefully Leslie Jordan appears, too. The only notable new cast so far is Joan Collins and possibly Anjelica Huston. Excited by both of those actresses.

I didn't like Roanoke and didn't watch any of Cult beyond the premiere. I thought I would like Cult based on the premise, but Murphy really failed in the execution. I had pretty much already decided I wouldn't watch this year, then the announcement about this being a continuation of Coven (my favorite season) pretty much brought me back. I really hope they don't screw this up.

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Well, I stuck it out through the first 3 episodes waiting for the Coven characters to arrive. Those first two episodes were absolutely awful.* Now, most of the cast from those first three episodes is dead, THANKFULLY GOOD RIDDANCE and the third episode gave me hope that this season might pick itself up out of the gutter now.

*Seriously, talk about a complete waste of three hours outside of Joan Collins being Joan Collins and Evan Peters getting stripped down in first a "shower" and then a sex scene.

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I, too, was glad to see the Coven characters return in episode three, and I didn't even really like that season. Here's hoping the season will improve as it goes on and that we don't have to wait too long to see the Murder House characters. I didn't really like Cult, though I did watch all of it, and I never did finish Roanoke, so I'm hoping this season gets back on track.

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I liked Kathy Bates' character more this episode. I thought the end of the episode would be back in the present, but they ended it still in flashback. I loved the Hotel cameo (+ March); Hotel and Coven are the only seasons I like and want to buy eventually. If Cult has more episodes like these last two, I might pick it up, too.

The guy playing the Antichrist--I'm just assuming that's what he is--looks like a much prettier Nicholas Cage. :lol:

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I didn't realize there was a thread for AHS here.

Loved last night's episode! Great to see Hotel again and of course all the Coven characters. I expected the end of the episode would result in a showdown between the witches and Michael but I guess that's being kept for later. Next episode will be predominantly flashbacks too it seems, but I don't mind. I hope they explain Dinah's character though because she's such an enigma.

The theory so far seems to be that Michael isn't a warlock, but his powers come from being the Antichrist. He can't be the Alpha then but Timothy (the bland guy from the first few episodes who's chosen for his genes) will be resurrected because he's the real Alpha. People think Mallory (Billie Lourd's character) is an angel or has some connection to angels which is why Michael is so freaked out by her. This is also why she seems like such a powerful and gifted witch, since she really isn't one at all and she'll be Cordelia and the witches' secret weapon against Michael.

Michael's actor is Cody Fern who I had the joy of seeing in Ryan Murphy's Versace show. I loved him there where he's playing a completely different character, so I'm glad that now more people are being exposed to this actor. He seems to have quickly become a fan fav. He's also got work in the final season of House of Cards so I hope he keeps getting big projects.

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If Cult has more episodes like these last two, I might pick it up, too.

Are you currently binging Cult right now? I quite enjoyed Cult but a lot of people complained that the politics were too heavy-handed for their taste. Also it lacks any supernatural terror which you seem to prefer since your fav seasons are Coven and Hotel.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:21 am 
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No, I mis-typed. I meant to say Apocalypse. I only watched the first episode of Cult. I was looking forward to that season because of the political aspect, but it just really failed in the execution, imo. Although I remember lmao at the satire of the "easily triggered liberal" (Sarah Paulson's character) screaming and crying over Hillary losing only to find out that the hypocrite voted for f***ing batsh*t Jill Stein. If that isn't just the closest thing to real life, I don't know what is. rotfl All those people who pretend to care about things to assuage their consciences playing with their votes like it's nothing but a game, allowing a monster like Drumpf to walk through the front door. They deserve to be mocked.

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The theory so far seems to be that Michael isn't a warlock, but his powers come from being the Antichrist. He can't be the Alpha then but Timothy (the bland guy from the first few episodes who's chosen for his genes) will be resurrected because he's the real Alpha.
I had wondered yesterday when I made my post what was even the point with opening the season with that character since he ultimately meant nothing in the scheme of things (being killed off an ep ago).

When Cordelia is leaving the compound only to come out to find Michael with Queenie / Madison, she kept acting weak. All I could think is that the new Supreme--or Alpha--was beginning to drain her power. I assumed they were implying that was Michael, but it could be anyone really.

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I was furious when Sarah Paulson's character confessed that she voted for Jill Stein, but I wasn't even surprised. Like you said, that was so true to reality for so many people. Basically the first half of the season is just Paulson's character shrieking in every scene. It takes a while to build up but there are some really hilarious moments of political and social satire throughout the whole season. On top of that, a lot of the cast members in Apocalypse made their debuts in Cult, like Billie Lourd, Leslie Grossman, and Billy Eichner. Leslie's character in particular was a huge fan-fav..

He and the other girl were both so boring that I'm hoping they'll stay dead, but we'll see.

From what I remember, everytime a new Supreme would emerge, the previous Supreme's health would suddenly start to fail. However, I've also heard the theory that her fainting is because she recognizes Michael as the Antichrist and has a vision of the apocalypse. The promo showed her vision so maybe that's why she fainted.


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The latest episode had so many commercials that I swear it felt like it was more commercial than episode. Regardless of that, I'm glad that Cordelia administrating the Seven Wonders test was all part of her plan to gauge Michael's power and get an excuse to bring back Misty. I'm assuming that her nosebleed at the end was just an act, although she probably is dying because Mallory will be the next Supreme.

The Stevie Nicks scene was pure fan-service and frankly a waste of time in an already truncated episode. I think the song was longer than any other sequence in the episode.

I'm surprised that Cheyenne Jackson's character was killed off so quickly since he's given top billing. I guess he'll be resurrected like most everyone else though.

Can't wait to see Murder House next episode! It'll have been years since Jessica Lange has been in an AHS episode and I wish she was appearing in more than one. I would have loved to have seen a Fiona cameo but at least we'll see her as Constance. Too bad the promo refused to show her face but at least we got to hear her voice. I'm guessing that Connie Britton will be back next episode too which also has me excited.


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Oh, I never commented. This last episode was great. I loved it all—even the longer-than-necessary Stevie Nicks cameo. The scene where Michael rescued Misty is the first time I’ve actually been creeped out so far (aside from the opening credits). Not when he cut the guy down the center, but when all the “children” twisted upwards and were speaking to him in another language.

Madison and Behold on a roadtrip together is going to be so funny, I already know it. I suppose this’ll be Jessica Lange’s one episode this season. The MH cameo is good, but I hope they make the most of Lange and have Cordelia somehow speak to her mother for advice on Michael, too. Perhaps go to Hell to talk to her briefly or something else. What I think would be interesting is if she went to Hell, but had to wander around a little bit to find her first and we got cameos of other characters in Hell (not necessarily Coven characters, although I wouldn't mind seeing Bates/Bassett/LuPone; for example, Dandy from Freak Show, or the doctor and/or priest from Asylum).

Btw, I wish Leslie Jordan could cameo this season. His Coven character is dead, but they could wave that away by saying the male witches asked Michael to bring him back (since he was killed by the female witches they apparently resent). I would say just have him appear as Cricket from Roanoke when Madison and Behold stop at a gas station or something, only he was just an actor for Cricket in Roanoke. /sigh For that matter, I'd like to see a mini Roanoke crossover with the Witch from that season (who Ryan Murphy was at the beginning of the coven in Coven or something from what I remember), although I don't know how they'd accomplish it. Perhaps if time travel magic is involved somehow, she goes back in time to consult with coven ancestors or something? *shrug* When they were doing the Seven Wonders test, they mentioned it had to be done at the Blood Moon. That's probably always been the case, but this is the first time I recognized the connection to Roanoke's Blood Moon. On top of other wants, I really wish Anjelica Huston had worked out for this season. For that matter, why didn't we get Nan back? I wouldn't mind Papa Legba showing up again either.

Yeah, I (and it seems like most people) think Mallory is probably the Supreme and the guy from the first episodes is the Alpha. The only thing I wonder is, well, how this season extends itself? Right now the only real plot to be dealt with is a battle between the witches and Michael. Investigating Michael will take one episode tops, then what? I imagine the leather suit ghost-thing from the first season is going to enter the plot some more; show more of how Michael enacted the apocalypse plus the time spell or whatever that allowed Cordelia to be at the bunker in the present. Sorry, I didn't finish MH when it was airing, and when I tried to watch it via Netflix a couple of years ago, I didn't go farther than 3-4 eps in then either.

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I really like your idea about seeing past AHS characters in Hell, not just ones from Coven.

I love Leslie Jordan and I'd love to see him again, even if just for a cameo. Some people think that the witch who Gaga played in Roanoke is the ancestor of Mallory. I've read that Nan's character is doing some Broadway show so she couldn't come, while Angela Bassett is busy with Ryan Murphy's 9-1-1 show, which I also watch. Funny yo mentioned Paga Legba since he was in the promo for next week's episode.

If you haven't finished Murder House then this latest episode may not make as much sense to you, or at least, you won't be very attached to the characters. However, they do a good job of recapping what occurred in that season so you won't feel lost and confused.

As for this episode, it was an absolute thrill! Sarah Paulson's direction is on point and I hope she continues to pursue directing. I'm so glad we got to see Jessica Lange again and I hope we can see her in another season or at least another Ryan Murphy show like Feud. It's interesting how they tried to redeem Tate but making it so that all his past evils were blamed on the house and Michael. I personally didn't have a problem with him getting his happy ending but I know some people aren't too pleased with this, especially since some of the acts he committed come off as especially tone-deaf in 2018. Finally, was very glad to see Connie Britton again. Her role was slightly smaller but I believe she's confirmed for two more episodes so that's great. Was nice to see Billie Dean again too although she disappeared pretty early on so it almost felt as though she was just shoehorned into a few scenes so that Sarah Paulson could appear in this episode. Not that I'm complaining.

Madison seems a lot nicer now in her third life and I have to admit that I prefer her this way. Some of her fans are complaining but I think mostly people prefer this more humanized version of her, especially since we still get her quotable zingers so she hasn't been completely neutered. She works great with Behold. So glad he's had a sizable role so far.


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Yes, I'm very excited about Papa Legba.

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I enjoyed this episode. Cheyenne Jackson looked so cute in his outfit at the end, especially the scarf, when he set the traitors on fire. Hopefully he and Behold ride off into the sunset together at the end of all this. :P

I'm glad they wrote Joan Collins a better role and that they showed Cordelia bringing Myrtle back to life and Nan! Thankfully Cordelia didn't make the deal with Legba, since Michael would probably be able to come back out of Hell unscathed, wouldn't he (if he's the Antichrist)? Condemning someone to Hell would be an unspeakable thing to do to someone... Btw, I almost thought the ending with the three crosses was supposed to be a twisted homage to the two men (one of them named Dismas, I believe?) and Jesus when they were crucified, but I suppose that would only work if Michael had been one of the three.

I wonder how the girl--I forget her name, the one who can tell how many calories is in something or what has gluten--how her powers will develop? Maybe she'll be able to tell outright what a person's level of power is and/or if they're a bad person versus a good person to keep those with ill-intent out of the coven. Maybe she'll be able to see every sin they've ever committed, if they have a disease, etc. I'm just trying to think of how she'll be connected to future plot.

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I'm glad Cheyenne Jackson is back since his characters tend to be killed off early on. And I loved how the witches were all having a final supper of sorts and Behold was with them. He and Cheyenne Jackson's character (whose name I don't remember) should both just officially join the witches' coven lol. They should meet the estrogen requirements that the witches were talking about before lol and they certainly fit the fashion standards.

I wasn't expecting them to address Myrtle's resurrection so that was nice. Didn't think Nan was going to be back either since Ryan Murphy hadn't spoiled it so that was a pleasant surprise. Glad that Dinah had a major role since she's been absent since her character was resurrected.

I agree that sending Michael to Hell probably wasn't going to work very well, since we've already seen him go down under and come out. Unless the Hell that Papa Legba has dominion over is different from the Devil's but I don't think so since he acknowledged not wanting to piss off the Devil.

The name of the gluten witch is Coco. Some people are hypothesizing that it's too obvious that Mallory will be the Supreme and it might actually be Coco. Personally, I think that's a bit far-fetched now but I do believe that Coco's powers will grow.


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This was such a terrible episode. The fact that it came out on Halloween made it even worse. Just a bunch of plot filler and it looks like the beginning of next week's episode will be too. There are only two episodes left now and I hope next episode completes the Apocalypse so that the final episode can take us back to the present. I've heard a rumor that next season might be a continuation of this one though.


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This was such a terrible episode. The fact that it came out on Halloween made it even worse. Just a bunch of plot filler and it looks like the beginning of next week's episode will be too. There are only two episodes left now and I hope next episode completes the Apocalypse so that the final episode can take us back to the present. I've heard a rumor that next season might be a continuation of this one though.


Yeah, a very boring episode. The Satan-worshipper stuff is so over the top that it isn’t scary at all. I did like the cameo by Harriet Samson Harris; loved her as Felicia Tilman from Desperate Housewives / BeBe from Frasier. :P I would rather she'd have been a witch though. I wonder if maybe she's playing the role that Murphy had wanted for Anjelica Huston?

I'd read speculation about the next season being a continuation of this one, too, and I really hope so. I remember being dumbstruck that Feud seemed to be cancelled (there was supposed to be a Princess Diana season that's never going to happen now, I guess) and AHS--which has been going on fumes the past couple of years--got three more seasons. Perhaps Apocalypse will be 3 seasons and he'll crossover with Asylum / Freak Show / Cult / Roanoke the next 2 years, too, while Coven is still the base of the show.

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I enjoyed the finale for the most part despite the flack it's been getting in some circles. I like that they pretty much brought all the witches back in the new timeline, even if Madison will still be stuck in Hell for a little while longer. Was great to see Marie Laveau again even if her role was pretty small. I usually really enjoy Adina Porter's characters in AHS but Dinah was her weakest role yet. I'm surprised she was part of the main cast since she didn't really stick around much.

I liked seeing more of Jessica Lange as well and Michael's death worked for me even if some people have called it anticlimactic. The only part I didn't care for was the very ending. I did not need those two basic bores to be brought back and as soon as I saw her in the hospital, I knew she'd give birth to the new antichrist. I'll pretend that the last three minutes of the finale just didn't occur.


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I thought the finale was alright although the two episodes before it had both been a letdown. I enjoyed Laveau coming back to take out Dinah personally. I didn't mind the ending with the Adam & Eve-wannabe characters giving birth to a new Antichrist. I was just disappointed because I thought--or, rather, hoped--the very ending of the show would be a twist with Mallory being revealed as the true Antichrist in a winkwinknod to the audience, and that Michael was just a wannabe (or the Alpha, whatever). Michael seemed too aimless and delusional to really be connected to the Devil. I thought more might happen with Coco, too, but nope.

Not a perfect season, but miles above the past two in any case. I hate that we had Jessica Lange in another episode, got to see Marie again and even a flash of Delphine, but not Fiona! I wonder if the next (last, hopefully) two seasons will be crossovers, too? I wouldn't mind one more original maybe and then a final season that combines them all throughout the season somehow.

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I agree that the episodes before were awful especially the one that was Michael centered and introdued Dumb and Dumber with those hideous haircuts. Really wished they had been killed off.

A lot of people expected that Coco's power would develop so that by the finale, she'd be instrumental in defeating Michael but it looks like her only purpose was to berate Mallory into submission so that she wouldn't be able to access her powers. I did like their friendship though.

I really thought Fiona might be back too since I knew that Marie Laveau would return in the finale. I assumed they'd return together so that was a little bit of a letdown. I'd love if Lange could get a starring role again. I like your idea for one more original season and then a final season that combines them all. I know a lot of people have been speculating on the significance of the aliens in Asylum so maybe they could tie to that.


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I'd love if Lange could get a starring role again. I like your idea for one more original season and then a final season that combines them all. I know a lot of people have been speculating on the significance of the aliens in Asylum so maybe they could tie to that.
If they don't do another crossover season, I hope they can at least convince Jessica Lange to come back for the final season of AHS. I remember when she left, I was kind of grateful because all her characters felt similar to one another. That said, her absence has left a void in the show I didn't expect, especially since I did enjoy Hotel. Without her, the whole show feels less serious / heavy for some reason; her performances brought so much gravitas to the story.

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Hey, I just got into AHS so bear with me I have a question at the end of this post I hope I can get answered!

First, I read the first three posts of this thread and until I am done watching every season I shall read no more. But kind of like Divinity I watched the first and some of the second episode of this show when it first came on and I felt it was kind of bad. Making someone with down syndrome be used to be creepy, characters that hated each other, and the degree of violence and even the mere talk of it I felt for shock value. But I watched it some other times, and the more I saw of it, usually through friends, the more I liked it and the more interested I became. So I decided to watch it all, from the beginning, since it was all available on Netflix thankfully. And damnit, what I once thought was trash I now feel is good television, like UmbrellaFish said. And also like him, I am in love with Sarah Paulson's acting. She battles Emma Stone as my favorite actress now. I mean, she even did those two distinct characters both with Southern drawls in Freak Show! I fell in love with Bette. Though my favorite of her characters must be Lana Winters. Damn well-written character. And I love Jessica Lange, too. And Evan Peters is so freakin' cute. And he did an amazing job as James March in Hotel! Barely recognized him! I think the best one so far has been Asylum. I couldn't give a crap about mental and health facilities or stories about them but damn was that good writing. All I disliked was the aliens. And the French girl. And the polygamy. But it was still the best. I love witches and while so far I've only seen Hotel I think Hotel is the least good with Coven above it. But so far nothing from AHS sucks to me at all! I'm on Roanoke now and I don't like the format, but I still love it. Oh, and Lady Gaga totally deserved that Golden Globe! She may have been striking poses all elegant a lot but she did a lot of perfect emotional stuff, too.

So now I am brought to my question, fellow AHS fans. In the very end of Hotel, we see the clock turn to when, I think I remember, James March died, which is usually when the cop would wake up, so I guess that was him going back to wherever in the afterlife he belonged. Is that right? Because then you see another man walking, and you see The Countess watch him and then she comes up to him asking why he's there and he says for Halloween and he's meeting friends and she says no, you're not, you've got a jawline for days. Wtf is supposed to be going on? She's dead, she doesn't need to feed. She can't kill anymore because it will kill the hotel which she needs to live in as a ghost to not pass on to hell. So is it that she wants him to be her new beau? I just don't get what is supposed to be going on. Can you guys answer my questions?

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