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Disney Duster wrote:But limiting the category of films just because there "weren't enough", skipping films that could be deserving just because there "weren't enough" (says who? Who says that number is the best? Who can say they are right?) just cheapens the idea and truth and merit and respect for btoh the films and the awards.
I mean... the Academy says that. I don't think they ever pretending to speaking for something other than themselves here. I'm not saying what they're doing is good or bad, but I think you do need a minimum number to have a certain amount of nominations, or else you end up with a year where there's only five films released and all five by default earn a nomination. Doesn't that cheapen it as much?
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Well, just been on Jim Hill, and read his article about the Oscar nominations. Lee Unkrich expresses his disappointment that Tangled wasn't nominated...

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Lee Unkrich wrote:I was disappointed that Tangled didn't get nominated for Best Animated Film. But it was a ruthless category this year, because there were only three slots. My disappointment is really more that we didn't have five spots. Tangled absolutely deserved to be there. But I'm happy for The Illusionist. It's a beautiful film.
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Disney Duster wrote:But limiting the category of films just because there "weren't enough", skipping films that could be deserving just because there "weren't enough" (says who? Who says that number is the best? Who can say they are right?) just cheapens the idea and truth and merit and respect for both the films and the awards.
Face it; the Academy is made up of complete cheapskates. :x
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Maybe I'm just optimistic about the future of animation, but I have a feeling that from no on, this category will consist of five nominees. When five of the top ten highest grossing films of 2010 are animated, Hollywood will certainly greenlight more and more of them and sixteen animated films per year won't be a hard total to have.

And personally, I'm okay with that. We should have more animated films flooding the marketplace.
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I'm glad that there are only 3 nominations this year as I really don't think there were 5 that deserved to be. What films have been nominated are brilliant and it's certainly a close call. The Illusionist in particular is an amazing film, beautiful hand-drawn animation with an original screenplay written by Jacques Tati (of M. Hulot fame) 30 years ago. HTTYD is Dreamworks' finest film and Toy Story 3 made me cry, what's more to say?
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estefan wrote: And personally, I'm okay with that. We should have more quality animated films flooding the marketplace.
Let's face it: a few too many films seem try to be in the flock of white sheep.

When we get a technicolor flock, then I'll be happy.

And I tried netflixing the Illusionist. No known US date for that. :(
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ajmrowland wrote: And I tried netflixing the Illusionist. No known US date for that. :(
It only just came out, but it's in very limited release. I don't even think it's opened in Canada yet.
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SpringHeelJack wrote:I mean... the Academy says that. I don't think they ever pretending to speaking for something other than themselves here. I'm not saying what they're doing is good or bad, but I think you do need a minimum number to have a certain amount of nominations, or else you end up with a year where there's only five films released and all five by default earn a nomination. Doesn't that cheapen it as much?
Okay, yes, but what I mean is: they should nominate whatever film they think is good, no matter what the amount of films is.

If they truly didn't think Tangled was good enough for a nomination, okay, but if they only just didn't nominate it because of the amount of films, that's a very un-respectable decision that makes me not take them seriously.
yamiiguy wrote:I'm glad that there are only 3 nominations this year as I really don't think there were 5 that deserved to be. What films have been nominated are brilliant and it's certainly a close call. The Illusionist in particular is an amazing film, beautiful hand-drawn animation with an original screenplay written by Jacques Tati (of M. Hulot fame) 30 years ago. HTTYD is Dreamworks' finest film and Toy Story 3 made me cry, what's more to say?
Oh yea, well Tangled made me cry with Rapunzel trying to save Flynn in the end and I don't cry often at all, so there! I mean that lightly, friend.
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My ultimate fantasy for this year's Oscars was for Toy Story 3 to win Best Picture and Tangled to win Best Animated Feature. Now I'll have to focus all my energy on Best Original Song, since that's Tangled's only nomination. :cry:

Love both, they both deserve trophies in my book. Tangled was waaaaay better than The Kids are All Right and The Social Network (most overrated movie ever?). I wish it had been nominated for Best Picture.
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For those of you upset that The Illusionist was nominated over Tangled, I think you should watch the film.

I loved Tangled and all, but I just finished watching The Illusionist and I totally understand why the Academy went for it. It's a beautiful, touching and funny film that brings out all sorts of emotions in the viewers and (in my opinion) a superior work to Tangled and How to Train Your Dragon. It's a shame it had to come out the same year as Toy Story 3, because it would definitely be my pick to win the Animated Feature Oscar had it opened in 2011.

Seriously, watch The Illusionist. It's exactly the sort of touching hand-drawn master-work that you all seem to enjoy.
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Well, I finally got around to watching The Illusionist and I will say that I can see why it was nominated for Best Animated Feature. It doesn't rely on dialogue to get the story going. For some reason, though, I felt that it had a symbolism to it where talent (ie: magic, ventriloquism) represented hand-drawn animation and how it's a dying form of art and that people just "aren't" into those anymore.

Overall, it was a splendid movie. :)
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I'm glad that you finally saw the film. It's a good movie and its animation is gorgeous. I can also see why it was nominated, but I don't whole heartedly agree with. The movie is good, but I felt somewhere its message got lost and the story itself is lacking in some of that magic. I was also bothered by the girl who basically uses the guy and he becomes her sugar daddy.
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Actually, I think the case is that she's fascinated by his magic and has not grown up completely until the end.
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