You're welcome! I have more notes to share from what I read yesterday, and I haven't finished reading it, so more to come.D82 wrote: Thanks for posting all that info from the book! It's curious that some of the things we speculated were actually considered by the filmmakers at some point.
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Page 58: "...the design inspirations of Rosas-- Romanesque architecture, Mudéjar ornamentation, and Mediterranean silhouette and color palette..."
Page 77: "Magnifico was originally conceived as an astrologist and alchemist, as well as being the king..." - Michael Giaimo
Page 79: "The glass altarpiece was originally designed as the location where Magnifico perfoms his forbidden magic, but now that takes place in his secret lair...the decision to have an ancient secret lair came very late in production and affected the design of the magic book as well. The lair is an ancient room that Magnifico discovered while doing renovations to his study, so the book had to be ancient too..." - David Womersley, art director of environments
"The dragon motif encircling the gem on the cover of Magnifico's forbidden magic book acts as a subtle bow to Maleficent..." - Michael Giaimo
Page 83:
https://imgur.com/kJ15F6p
Page 99:
https://imgur.com/SKXm8Gf
Page 160: "Right away people asked us, 'Is this film going to be hand drawn?'. It certainly could have been, and we did consider it, but for a film that embraces our past and our future, it couldn't solely be hand drawn. The question became, How do we achieve something that pays homage to both? That was our challenge to the team." - Chris Buck
"We've had films that started out with a goal of doing something different stylistically, but for various reasons would evolve back to our [photorealistic] CG aesthetic. It was so important for this one to push through. I think the challenge itself, the fact that this had never been done at the studio, is what attracted everybody." - Peter Del Vecho
"In the time I've been at the studio, I've talked to so many artists, and they've always wanted to push the look of our films. So when I heard this film was going to do it, I knew everyone was going to be very excited about it." - Juan Pablo Reyes Lancaster Jones
Page 161: "I started calling our style 'moving illustration,' inspired by Walt Disney's description of" SB "as 'the art of living, moving paintings'... with our use of the CG medium, we can produce moving illustration in a way Walt could only have dreamed." -Michael Giaimo
Page 162: "The team studied illustrators such as Gustaf Tenggren, John Bauer, Kay Nielsen, Arthur Rackham, and Edmund Dulac."
Page 164: "One of the first tests was to see how a CG character would look in 2D. Associate director of cinematography, lighting, Gregory Culp took a real hand-drawn background painting from Pinocchio and had CG Asha walk through the street. If there was any disconnect...the illusion would be broken."
Page 164:
https://imgur.com/uBsPSpx
Page 165:
https://imgur.com/9VeLRma
Page 166: "The goal was to have the final render look like a watercolor painting with hand-drawn linework...the artists developed a new lighting technique that makes surfaces appear soft and blurred...projected a layer of watercolor paper texture into the scene using a rendering technology developed by Brent Burley specifically for Wish that could automatically compensate for depth and a moving camera."
Page 169: "We did not use motion blur on Wish...the frames we draw make it to the screen exactly as we intended them." - Rebecca Wilson Bressee and Wayne Unten, Heads of Animation
Page 170: "On previous films, such as" BH6, Moana, & RatLD, "we had a live-action style of cinematography." - Rob Dressel, director of cinematography, layout
Page 170: "[for Wish] the team leaned in to classical animation cinematography, lingering on shots, using longer and wider lenses, and employing multiplane camera zoom techniques. "At first, we leaned too far into embodying the legacy films. [Buck] warned that we don't want people to actually think this is a 2D movie...call back to the 2D, but make it something no one has ever seen."" - Adolph Lusinsky, director of cinematography, lighting
Page 170: 2.55:1 aspect ratio
Page 173: 3 emotional themes: "imagination, status quo, and power and control."
Page 174: using early art of a plaza in Rosas, a multiplane test was done using a camera move based on Pinocchio.
Page 184: fabric used in the first wish ceremony (either the first ever or first we see; it doesn't say)= hand-drawn effect
Page 191, wish bubble part: "original hand-drawn effects were created for this film and guided our CG approach." -2D effects animator Dan Lund (I don't know if the bubbles are actually hand-drawn or just the development process included hand-drawn...)
Page 187: "The [water] ripples throughout Wish were patterned after "The Nutcracker Suite" in Fantasia..."
Page 189: "Maleficent's green flames, Frollo's hellfire, and Ursula's smoke hands all inspired Magnifico's forbidden magic."
(Head's up to Disney Duster for Pages 192 + 193!)
Page 192:
https://imgur.com/Gd8Jt5R
Page 193:
https://imgur.com/fV5Nocb
Page 77: "Magnifico was originally conceived as an astrologist and alchemist, as well as being the king..." - Michael Giaimo
Page 79: "The glass altarpiece was originally designed as the location where Magnifico perfoms his forbidden magic, but now that takes place in his secret lair...the decision to have an ancient secret lair came very late in production and affected the design of the magic book as well. The lair is an ancient room that Magnifico discovered while doing renovations to his study, so the book had to be ancient too..." - David Womersley, art director of environments
"The dragon motif encircling the gem on the cover of Magnifico's forbidden magic book acts as a subtle bow to Maleficent..." - Michael Giaimo
Page 83:
https://imgur.com/kJ15F6p
Page 99:
https://imgur.com/SKXm8Gf
Page 160: "Right away people asked us, 'Is this film going to be hand drawn?'. It certainly could have been, and we did consider it, but for a film that embraces our past and our future, it couldn't solely be hand drawn. The question became, How do we achieve something that pays homage to both? That was our challenge to the team." - Chris Buck
"We've had films that started out with a goal of doing something different stylistically, but for various reasons would evolve back to our [photorealistic] CG aesthetic. It was so important for this one to push through. I think the challenge itself, the fact that this had never been done at the studio, is what attracted everybody." - Peter Del Vecho
"In the time I've been at the studio, I've talked to so many artists, and they've always wanted to push the look of our films. So when I heard this film was going to do it, I knew everyone was going to be very excited about it." - Juan Pablo Reyes Lancaster Jones
Page 161: "I started calling our style 'moving illustration,' inspired by Walt Disney's description of" SB "as 'the art of living, moving paintings'... with our use of the CG medium, we can produce moving illustration in a way Walt could only have dreamed." -Michael Giaimo
Page 162: "The team studied illustrators such as Gustaf Tenggren, John Bauer, Kay Nielsen, Arthur Rackham, and Edmund Dulac."
Page 164: "One of the first tests was to see how a CG character would look in 2D. Associate director of cinematography, lighting, Gregory Culp took a real hand-drawn background painting from Pinocchio and had CG Asha walk through the street. If there was any disconnect...the illusion would be broken."
Page 164:
https://imgur.com/uBsPSpx
Page 165:
https://imgur.com/9VeLRma
Page 166: "The goal was to have the final render look like a watercolor painting with hand-drawn linework...the artists developed a new lighting technique that makes surfaces appear soft and blurred...projected a layer of watercolor paper texture into the scene using a rendering technology developed by Brent Burley specifically for Wish that could automatically compensate for depth and a moving camera."
Page 169: "We did not use motion blur on Wish...the frames we draw make it to the screen exactly as we intended them." - Rebecca Wilson Bressee and Wayne Unten, Heads of Animation
Page 170: "On previous films, such as" BH6, Moana, & RatLD, "we had a live-action style of cinematography." - Rob Dressel, director of cinematography, layout
Page 170: "[for Wish] the team leaned in to classical animation cinematography, lingering on shots, using longer and wider lenses, and employing multiplane camera zoom techniques. "At first, we leaned too far into embodying the legacy films. [Buck] warned that we don't want people to actually think this is a 2D movie...call back to the 2D, but make it something no one has ever seen."" - Adolph Lusinsky, director of cinematography, lighting
Page 170: 2.55:1 aspect ratio
Page 173: 3 emotional themes: "imagination, status quo, and power and control."
Page 174: using early art of a plaza in Rosas, a multiplane test was done using a camera move based on Pinocchio.
Page 184: fabric used in the first wish ceremony (either the first ever or first we see; it doesn't say)= hand-drawn effect
Page 191, wish bubble part: "original hand-drawn effects were created for this film and guided our CG approach." -2D effects animator Dan Lund (I don't know if the bubbles are actually hand-drawn or just the development process included hand-drawn...)
Page 187: "The [water] ripples throughout Wish were patterned after "The Nutcracker Suite" in Fantasia..."
Page 189: "Maleficent's green flames, Frollo's hellfire, and Ursula's smoke hands all inspired Magnifico's forbidden magic."
(Head's up to Disney Duster for Pages 192 + 193!)
Page 192:
https://imgur.com/Gd8Jt5R
Page 193:
https://imgur.com/fV5Nocb
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I agree with you. I don't hear SOtL, which I loved. It's a better version of "You're Welcome" mixed with "Shiny." I like it in a way, but I thought Magnifico would be more like Jafar, tbh. He's like a sillier Gaston going by the song.Sotiris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:58 pm I don't see the similarity to "Snuff Out the Light". That one was more theatrical, grander in scale, with a more cabaret sound. This one is much smaller in scope and has a very mid-'00s pop sound. Its sound is reminiscent of songs you would find in Disney Channel Original Movies. However, I do see the similarity to "You're Welcome", but not in terms of melody or sound. The rapping at the beginning and the "hook" of the song—the frequent repetition of the phrase 'this is the thanks I get'— makes believe the songwriters were trying to imitate LMM's style to a degree.
I don't hate the songs, but the weakest part for me is that the chorus of both it and "This Wish" repeat one line over and over. That's not surprising though considering the composer is a pop artist.Marce82 wrote: Why does it feel like the songs have zero structure?
Listening to most often lately:
Abi Carter ~ "Part of Your World" (live)
Taylor Swift ~ "The Alchemy"
Taylor Swift ~ "The Prophecy"
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My costume of Star from Disney’s Wish, for this coming Halloween Tuesday, is complete, guys. I can’t wait for you all to see it.
I hope you all like it or are impressed by the effort I put into it when you see it.
Especially as no one’s attempted to make this costume until now when I have been the first to do it. And I say that because there are no official costumes of Star yet.
I hope you all like it or are impressed by the effort I put into it when you see it.
Especially as no one’s attempted to make this costume until now when I have been the first to do it. And I say that because there are no official costumes of Star yet.
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The international trailer now in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPeGiCH7A0
Also, the song "Welcome to Rosas" will be released this Wednesday.
Also, the song "Welcome to Rosas" will be released this Wednesday.
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Japanese version of This Wish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKKlFWsODOU
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We can already hear a bit of the music in this promo.Musical Master wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:14 pm Also, the song "Welcome to Rosas" will be released this Wednesday.
Thanks for posting! It sounds quite nice. The Thai versions of "This Wish" and "This Is The Thanks I Get?!" have also been released.reee9948 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:41 pm Japanese version of This Wish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKKlFWsODOU
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Voice actress of Japanese's Asha sings This Wish live starting at 13:09.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4fSgiCPqKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4fSgiCPqKs
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That trailer is much more better because it clearly shows why King Magnifico is “evil” (i.e. Asha telling her friends or Star the reason why they need to stop him) and I noticed that Asha says “We need to give back the wishes”, which is full confirmation that Asha doesn’t want to grant every wish in the kingdom, which is what everyone was thinking when they saw the official trailer last month, but instead give them back to the people. ReallyMusical Master wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:14 pm The international trailer now in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPeGiCH7A0
Also, the song "Welcome to Rosas" will be released this Wednesday.
gladthat’sallclearedup!That, and it doesn’t have a butt joke in it
the joke they put in with Valentino is miles better than that.Favorite Things Right Now:
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1. Jujutsu Kaisen (Anime)
2. Good Night Mare by LOZAREENA (Song)
3. Disventure Camp (Web Series)
4. SHEESH by BABYMONSTER (Song)
5. The Way of the Househusband (Anime)
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Ok, so there is one person on twitter who read the novelization of the movie and I asked several questions about Magnico's past, his relationship with Amaya, and so on. This is obviously major spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers, then the twitter thread will give you more insight on the movie.
https://twitter.com/DavidDicke14964/sta ... 9904028986
https://twitter.com/DavidDicke14964/sta ... 9904028986
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LightBox Expo Recap: “Wish – The Art of Costume Design” with Griselda Sastrawinata-Lemay
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... ata-lemay/
Photos: “Wish” Preview Opens as Part of Walt Disney Presents at Disney’s Hollywood Studios
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Disney and Neiman Marcus Partner to Make Your “Wish” Come True
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https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... ata-lemay/
Photos: “Wish” Preview Opens as Part of Walt Disney Presents at Disney’s Hollywood Studios
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Just like Frozen's "For The First Time in Forever" trailer, it's the one that treats it a bit seriously and showcases the music in a way.MoonMarc21 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:57 pmThat trailer is much more better because it clearly shows why King Magnifico is “evil” (i.e. Asha telling her friends or Star the reason why they need to stop him) and I noticed that Asha says “We need to give back the wishes”, which is full confirmation that Asha doesn’t want to grant every wish in the kingdom, which is what everyone was thinking when they saw the official trailer last month, but instead give them back to the people. ReallyMusical Master wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:14 pm The international trailer now in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPeGiCH7A0
Also, the song "Welcome to Rosas" will be released this Wednesday.glad
That, and it doesn’t have a butt joke in it
From Booth to Screen "Welcome to Rosas": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KixZ-w3pQ9M
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Good thing Disney smartly made that the final domestic trailer. Let’s hope it helps Wish be a hit, last-minute, like it helped Frozen last-minute, along with those early screenings on the weekend before its release.Musical Master wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:29 amJust like Frozen's "For The First Time in Forever" trailer, it's the one that treats it a bit seriously and showcases the music in a way.MoonMarc21 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:57 pm
That trailer is much more better because it clearly shows why King Magnifico is “evil” (i.e. Asha telling her friends or Star the reason why they need to stop him) and I noticed that Asha says “We need to give back the wishes”, which is full confirmation that Asha doesn’t want to grant every wish in the kingdom, which is what everyone was thinking when they saw the official trailer last month, but instead give them back to the people. Really
That, and it doesn’t have a butt joke in it
From Booth to Screen "Welcome to Rosas": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KixZ-w3pQ9M
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#HappyHalloween from Walt Disney Animation Studios’ newest mascot character, #Star #TheWishingStar of Disney’s newest animated feature film called #Wish, arriving only in theaters November 22nd.
What do you guys think of the first attempt at a costume of Star The Wishing Star by me?
No one believed I could pull it off. But I never gave the doubters any attention. And I think I actually pulled it off very nicely, with all things considered.
Picture of Star for reference in the comments below.
What do you guys think of the first attempt at a costume of Star The Wishing Star by me?
No one believed I could pull it off. But I never gave the doubters any attention. And I think I actually pulled it off very nicely, with all things considered.
Picture of Star for reference in the comments below.
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Not liking Welcome to Rosas very much. It sounds too generic and something that could`ve come from a Disney Junior property.
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I'm not loving it either =\DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:47 pm Not liking Welcome to Rosas very much. It sounds too generic and something that could`ve come from a Disney Junior property.