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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:20 am 
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Well Amy, it's just that I wish they would have more original stories. But you know that there is the belief there are only seven stories in the world. I'm just always hoping there are infinite ones.


It's funny, because I was going to mention that in my previous post. In general, I prefer stand-alone original films. But CR was just so good, and a dose of feel-good nostalga w/ Pooh + friends = :).

What seems hard for Disney right now, and maybe all of Hollywood, is that the one-off, new, original movies often fail to do well at the box office...and Disney makes big bucks with the remakes, or sequels...


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Amy, my dear friend, you didn't get what I was saying. Sequels are fine. Remakes are fine. I am talking about how the same basic story of losing your childhood and then getting it back happens in "original" films and sequel films all the time. That's what I meant.

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Ohhhh, I gotcha now, sorry. :oops: I suppose it's one of the story tropes, like person meets love of their life, loses them, & gets them back; or disfunctional family bonds over some family 'thing,' etc.

I suppose it's a relatable theme, since most people grow up but have nostalgia...?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:30 am 
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It's alright. I just feel so tired of that story over and over. But I'll try to look for the originality in stories that have plots like that now, like you Amy. :)

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<3 I guess I should try to have that attitude for the live action remakes? Maybe? I still disagree with Disney being so unoriginal ... many fairy tales have versions in so many countries, they could at least explore that, if they have to remake movies...? I did watch the Lavender's Blue clip, from 2015 Cinderella because it was mentioned in the other thread...in Spanish, but still, and I liked it.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:13 am 
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Well the remakes have to balance between being old and new. If it's a remake of a Disney Animated Classic, I feel and think many would agree that it can't be some other version of the fairy tale, it has to be another version of the movie, right down to the plot. If you ask me, The Jungle Book's ending, which I won't spoil for you if you haven't seen it, was wrong because it neither followed the original film and it's message, or those of the original book, either. But it had the same basic events, characters, and even songs. Cinderella strattles between being a remake and being a new version of the fairy tale, actually, but a) it still has almost all the events that were in the original film and they are almost identical to the original film, the same characters, the same names, and the same big blue ball gown (even though in the original film it's silver that looks blue in the dark), and b) I just like the Perrault version of Cinderella so much if they did a different one I would hardly like it! The only non-Perrault Cinderella's I liked were in Into the Woods and Three Hazelnuts for Cinderella. Beauty and the Beast is kind of the first remake that is practically the same exact thing, and it should have been closer to the original in some ways and different in other ways. Instead, it is just a less good copy of the original. Anyway my point is those are the only three remakes which are actual remakes (of the animated films). Alice in Wonderland and Maleficent were like alternate stories. And if it's a remake you can't have things like Cinderella's name being Cenerentola and her losing a bracelet instead of a slipper or Mowgli making friends with a bharal and then becoming a forest ranger or Belle being named Bella and getting it on with her vampire werewolf prince who will become human if she kisses him. It's gotta be like the old original animated stories, just live-action, basically. It's what people want to see. At least, I know that's what I want to see!

What Lavender's Blue did you see? When her mother sings it to her, or when she sings it in the attic?

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This is just a case of to each his/her own- I can understand why someone's favorite version (Perrault in this case) is what a fan wants to see, but for me, Disney's already told that story, tell me a new one.

The first Youtube clip I clicked on was her mom, but it was out of sync, so then I stopped watching and clicked on the Spanish clip of the attic- which I liked- not just the song, but I liked that Ella was duscovered and freed.


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Ok, so you want to see something new and others want to see the live-action versions of their favorite Disney animated films. But notice, it's remakes of the animated films. Remakes. Not other stories. A remake of a previous film. Another version of the film. Not another version of the general plot. It's what the word remake means. To remake the same thing, not a different thing.

I loved how they did that scene. It was clever.

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Disney Duster wrote:
But notice, it's remakes of the animated films. Remakes. Not other stories. A remake of a previous film. Another version of the film. Not another version of the general plot.


I think I understand what you mean- if it were a Chinese version of Cinderella or Russian version of B&tB, it wouldn't actuallly be a remake of the Disney film, but a retelling of the fairy tale itself...?

I still want original movies, period, or Christopher Robin/MPR type sequels are nice too. And Pete's Dragon "remake" had nothing in common to the original-- I wish they named it something different.


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Yes you got it.

I want more original stuff, too. But I would also love if they remade my favorite movies over and over actually. Impossible? Ridiculous? Yeah, I know, it's just a wish. And my wish for a Cinderella live-action came true which made me really happy. I don't view Christopher Robin as a sequel but an all new story if that even makes any sense. Pete's Dragon should have been closer to the original in my opinion.

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The film has been nominated for the Humanitas Prize.

Family Feature Film

Christopher Robin
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mary Poppins Returns


The film has been nominated for an Annie Award.

Character Animation in a Live-Action Production

Avengers: Infinity War
Christopher Robin
Mary Poppins Returns
Paddington 2
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms


The film has been nominated for a San Diego Film Critics Society Award.

Best Visual Effects

Black Panther
Christopher Robin
Isle of Dogs
Paddington 2
Ready Player One


The film has been nominated for two Visual Effects Society Awards.

Outstanding Visual Effects in a Photoreal Feature

Avengers: Infinity War
Christopher Robin
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Welcome to Marwen

Outstanding Animated Character in a Photoreal Feature

Avengers: Infinity War (Thanos)
Christopher Robin (Tigger)
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (Indoraptor)
Ready Player One (Art3mis)


The film has been nominated for an Academy Award.

Best Visual Effects

Avengers: Infinity War
Christopher Robin
First Man
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story

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