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DisneyEra wrote: So when Clinton was informed that a man was harrasing women on her staff, she wouldn't fire him?
In the case of one incident where he touched a woman's shoulders, probably not. But his pay would be docked and he’d be required to go to counseling which is more than Disney ever did to Lasseter. She also moved the woman in question so she would no longer have to deal with this man; Disney did not protect any of the women who had to answer directly to Lasseter.

Moreover, let's not even pretend that the man from Hillary Clinton's '08 campaign is anywhere in the same league as f***ing John Lasseter and his near-absolute control of power at WDAS and PIXAR/the 50-100+ women he harassed or touched while knowing and not caring they were uncomfortable/the women he chased out of the industry like Brenda Chapman. That's an enormous leap.

But I guess that would actually involve reading the actual events of all these sexual harassment stories rather than grouping them all under one banner. Americans don't like to read, I know, they just go by the headlines. That's very helpful to the U.S.'s enemies.

She doesn't and I hope she doesn’t.
Completely agree with all of this. I wanted to say these things as well, but people don't seem too pleased about political debates here, and I realized that anything pro-Clinton would just ignite more sparks. Let's not pretend for even a second that if she were a man, people would be telling her to go away and disappear. The same goes with her email issues. And of course, as pointed out, her handling of the sexual harassment case.
PatrickvD wrote:The woman needs to go away. She’s not doing the discussion any good considering her poor track record with human rights. From accepting Saudi money to opposing gay marriage and her continued support of harassers, which included Weinstein. What a mess.
I'm not sure what your country's perception of her is, but in the US at least, there's a reason that she won the popular vote by more than nearly 3 million. I'm just saddened that it's likely now that there'll never be a world where she was president.
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Rumpelstiltskin wrote:As for Walt Disney himself, the rumors about him being racist and anti-Semite have turned out to be incorrect. I have not heard any claims about him being sexist, but it is said he had a rather puritanical attitude towards anything sexual at the studio and between his employees. He was a human like everybody else and had his mistakes, but I'm guessing he would not tolerate such behavior if he was still around today.
The only thing that made Walt sexist was a letter from 1938, where he rejected a female artist from becoming an animator, for the sole reason that she was a woman.

Floyd Norman has mentioned on numerous occasions how Walt was able to change with the times. In the context of the letter in question, it is extremely unlikely that the Walt Disney of 1938 would have remained the same in 1958.
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But Walt Disney wouldn't let most women be more than ink and painters, and he underpaid them, and when a female ink and painter fainted from lack of food she couldn't afford, he ignored it...if I remember that one documentary right. And from that same documentary, didn't Walt Disney not let that one woman get a job in that movie with the scientist guy? Flubber?
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Interesting article. You should read the whole thing. Here's a few excerpts I'd like to highlight.

Inside Disney And Pixar: The Debate Over John Lasseter’s Return
https://www.fastcompany.com/40551146/in ... rs-return/


Apparently, Lasseter has been vacationing in Europe since the story broke.
The once larger-than-life presence who tinkered with scripts, reviewed film footage and helped design theme park rides, like the upcoming Incredicoaster at Disney’s California Adventure park, has been completely off the grid since Thanksgiving. Rumor is that he has been in Europe since the story broke, and didn’t return to the U.S. even when his home and vineyard property in Northern California were badly damaged by the wildfires around the same time. Even friends and colleagues who typically have regular contact with him say he has not responded to texts or calls. But with Lasseter’s six-month hiatus about to come to an end in May, there are more rumblings about his fate. At Disney, says one source, “Everyone is watching the clock.”
He was much more involved within the company than we previously thought, even in departments beyond his jurisdiction.
Given his multiple roles, and the degree to which his DNA is baked into Pixar and, now Disney Animation, Lasseter is not someone who can be dismissed without significant ramifications, something that surely must be weighing on Iger.

“John loves (designing) toys, consumer products, parks. He’s as involved in the minutiae of selling movies as well as making them,” says one Pixar source. “I mean, good luck trying to replace him.”
The crew at WDAS isn't so keen on welcoming him back.
According to staff, Disney has also been monitoring how people within the company feel. In January, the company organized a Day of Listening–the first of its kind at Disney Animation–where employees were gathered together and encouraged to air their feelings about Lasseter. But if Disney thought the session would prove to be a catharsis that would clear the air and pave a way for Lasseter’s return, the company was mistaken. “The message that was sent was that there are still a lot of raw feelings,” says one source. “The climate of the dialogue was not one where you leave thinking, okay, John is coming back.”
John Lasseter may be gone but his disciples are still there. The question is will we be seeing a Second Coming?
“It’s not like when Steve Jobs left Apple,” says one former Pixar employee. “There was truly a leadership vacuum when Steve left. Because I don’t think there was anyone really groomed to come up after Steve. That was the problem. But there are so many people at Pixar—you’ve got a lot of people who can fill that vacuum if John doesn’t come back. These are disciples of John. Their points of view are so deeply informed by his. I think you can take John Lasseter out of the equation, but you can’t fully take him out of the equation.”
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The fact that there's even a "debate" at all is more proof that Disney really does not care about anything at all except money. Right or wrong doesn't even enter the list. Even when they occasionally appear to be doing something "good," it's just to assuage consumers. I'm glad the employees haven't been silent at least. Rip him out root and stem.
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A lot of things are happening at Disney now; Lasster may not Return, and the merger with Fox. If Catmull do step Down, as he might do, he will probably wait till things have settled down. In that case, we could risk that both Lasseter and Catmull leave Disney.

The reason why Docter is mentioned is probably because he seems to be one of Lasster's favorite workers. If he is not interested, then who want to become the new boss?
At Disney Animation, Lasseter’s void is a bigger issue, given that there’s no established Brain Trust and that the creative team there is still relatively young. “They have less structure to fall back on,” says the former Pixar artist. “And the people who are seen as the thought leaders are all in Emeryville.”
I really don't see the need for a brain trust at Disney. These are two different studioes, so no need to copy Pixar in everything. And there are some people there with experience as well. Floyd Norman still hangs around. Maybe some other retired Disney persons could do that as well (like Musker or Andreas Deja, even if he is not actually retired), offering advice and stuff even if it's not really a job.
This is the chance for the Disney studio to go in their own direction. With Lasseter heavily involved in both studios, the movies have started to feel similar in many ways. They should get a new leader with no connection with Pixar, allowing the studios to evolve in two different directions.
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Only time will tell but I'am quite concerned there won't be any efforts to replace Lasseter. The message has to be sent out that abuse of power need not be the way things are.
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Will there be any significant changes at Pixar or is this just lip service?

Pixar VP Says Studio Has "Great Desire" to Create Inclusive Environment
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behin ... nt-1100807

Pixar VP Addresses Inclusive Environment at NAB Show
https://www.famefocus.com/news/pixar-vp ... -nab-show/


Unsurprisingly, neither WDAS nor Pixar have joined this initiative. So much for their "commitment" to create harassment-free work environments.

Women in Animation, Indie Studios Partner on Anti-Harassment Pledge
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/women ... 202749904/
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Iger's hypocrisy is unparalleled. He knew about Lasseter for decades and covered for him. His gall is infuriating.
Iger has been publicly quiet, though privately less so, about the #MeToo movement, which entangled Pixar’s chief creative officer, John Lasseter, last November. “Two things need to occur,” Iger says. “We need to figure out as an industry how to prevent this behavior from happening again, and we have to make sure that we create environments for people, particularly women, to be able to speak up if they have been victimized by this or if they have seen others being victimized by it. I love that people are speaking up, and I hope—and I’m actually optimistic—that change is occurring.”
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You also need to create an environment where women are allowed to be in leadership roles so they aren't always at the mercy of men in a never-ending power imbalance. I'm sure there are many qualified women in the Disney company, and yet all the talk about Lasseter's and Iger's replacements seems to only ever include men. And so the machine continues grinding on.

The idea he's talking about being "optimistic" and yet considering bringing Lasseter back in the fold... :angry: :roll: Screw you, Iger. What a two-faced p.o.s.
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A new, illuminating, in-depth article on Lasseter during his tenure at Pixar and WDAS. A must-read.

"He Who Must Not Be Named": Can John Lasseter Ever Return to Disney?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/featu ... ey-1105297


It's interesting how everyone who used to sing his praises at every turn now won't even utter his name in public (except for Jodi Benson).
The acceptance speeches included thanks to many people, but one name was conspicuously omitted: John Lasseter, the absent chief creative officer of both pillars of Disney's animation empire. "He who must not be named," marvels one animation veteran who, like many, won't talk about Lasseter on the record.
He only "cares" now because Lasseter has been exposed and fears bad press and damage to his own reputation by association. He was well-aware of his behavior and complicit in his crimes. Iger is the definition of hypocrisy.
Now, with the six months of his leave drawing to a close, many animators are convinced that Lasseter will not return. Disney remains mum, but multiple sources believe that Disney chairman and CEO Bob Iger is prepared to bid Lasseter goodbye. "Bob is about keeping peace in the family," says one Disney veteran. "He's not anxious to take on defending somebody with that kind of reputation."

Insiders say Lasseter had amassed so much power that his underlings at one point told Iger they needed to check with Lasseter before carrying out Iger's instructions. Now if Lasseter returns, there is likely to be a negative reaction from some employees at Pixar and Disney who felt that Lasseter had bullied and belittled them and hogged credit for years. Finally, there is the issue of his conduct with female employees. "If John goes back, it will kill women in animation," says a former Pixar insider. "The message will be so clear: Shut up and take it."

Disney does not appear to be preparing to send that message. In February, the company held an unprecedented "day of listening" at the Disney animation unit and brought in a handful of human-resources professionals to facilitate a discussion of workplace concerns. More recently, Pixar employees learned that longtime human resources chief Lori McAdams — seen by many as one of Lasseter's chief protectors — was leaving the company. McAdams did not respond to a request for comment.
The media should be held accountable for their role in this. They were the ones who constantly praised him, went to ridiculous lengths to present him as the savior of animation, and never dared criticize him. They helped him broadcast and maintain this persona all these decades, which resulted in strengthening the influence and hold he had over the industry.
Interviews with a broad swath of animators and executives who crossed paths with Lasseter over the years suggest that as he achieved great success and power, he became increasingly imperious. At Pixar, some insiders called him "King John" and various other uncomplimentary nicknames. "He changed drastically as success and money came," says one former colleague. Another longtime Pixar executive says Lasseter's image as a Walt Disney of the digital age — as a whimsical, childlike genius with a wall-to-wall collection of toys and memorabilia in his office ­— concealed a darker reality. "The public didn't see that," this person says. "The happy-ass guy in the Hawaiian shirt? That was a well-crafted persona."
It turns out Katzenberg was right about him. It seems their feud was nothing other than Lasseter being an entitled, spiteful brat who wanted squash any competition.
As Toy Story was followed by a dazzling run of hits, former colleagues at Pixar say Lasseter became jealous of potential rivals and intolerant of criticism. "The only person who could give John notes was Steve Jobs," says one, referring to Pixar's majority shareholder in that early era. "There was a level of fear that permeated senior management." Another says Pixar became "this cult of the infallible genius." Lasseter had younger proteges like Pete Docter, who directed Monsters, Inc., and Andrew Stanton, who directed Finding Nemo, but those were talents he had nurtured. With others, says an executive who worked with Lasseter, "You could be 'in' one day but if you did something he didn't like, he could turn and cause a lot of damage." A former Pixar insider says Brad Bird was able to thrive on his 2004 film The Incredibles only because he had been hired by Jobs, who saw to it that Bird was able to assemble and run his own team.
I still can't believe how much Lasseter screw Glen Keane over during Rapunzel. He antagonized him to the point of heart attack and then used that as an excuse to take over his pet project. Utterly despicable. It's no surprise he treated him and Don Hahn so horribly. These two were imperative to Disney's success in the '90s and I always had a feeling Lasseter resented the Disney Renaissance.
Sources say among those whom Lasseter eventually pushed aside was legendary Disney animator Glen Keane, who drew Ariel in The Little Mermaid and the Beast in Beauty and the Beast. Back in 1983, Keane and Lasseter — then both at Disney — had collaborated on a test combining drawn animation and computer-generated images. ("In five years these tests will seem so primitive, they'll look like Steamboat Willie does today," Lasseter said presciently at the time.) When computers came to dominate the field, associates say that Keane, unlike some who made their names in hand-drawn animation, successfully navigated the transition to the new technology. He left Disney in 2012, and this year won an Oscar for his work with Kobe Bryant on the short Dear Basketball. He's now directing an animated feature for Netflix. Another casualty was Don Hahn, whose producing credits include Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King. "He was one of the most successful animation producers of all time," says a Disney veteran. "John treated him like shit." (Keane and Hahn both declined to comment.)
No surprise there.
By the mid-2000s, Jobs had become concerned about Lasseter, according to a former high-level associate. The Apple co-founder may not have been comfortable with one man wielding so much power at Pixar, but there was more. Lasseter could be "mean" and "vindictive" while drinking, this person says.
But of course no one knew, right? :roll:
Over time, sources say, there were complaints to human resources at both Pixar and Disney Animation. (Disney declined to comment.) A former insider says the thinking was, "We have to do everything we can to protect John from himself and keep the truth from the public."'
It sounds to me that because he wasn't talented enough and couldn't cut it, he resented hand-animation. Despite him constantly saying how much he loved 2D animation, the way he abandoned the medium at WDAS and the way he treated 2D animators painted a different picture.
Lasseter, who by several accounts was not an especially talented draftsman, left the company in 1984. "He wasn't really in love with drawing like a lot of us were," Klubien says. Technology held more appeal. "For him, it was more about 'How can we get to do animation in this medium?'".
Another artist screwed over by Lasseter. Him taking credit for others' work and achievements was a regular thing.
In 1993 — while Toy Story was still in the works — Klubien was hired to work on Pixar's second movie, A Bug's Life. He was credited for helping develop the story and as a storyboard artist but came away feeling that he had not been credited properly as a writer on the film. [...]

Inspired by a Disney short called Susie the Little Blue Coupe, Klubien pitched Lasseter on a movie featuring talking cars. Lasseter liked the idea and told him to start drawing to flesh it out. Klubien says he worked for three months on drawings of settings and characters that appear very similar to those in the finished film. Then he pitched the project to Lasseter again but got no immediate response. He went to work on Monsters, Inc. and Toy Story 2. But then he heard that Lasseter wanted to move ahead on a cars movie. He checked in with Lasseter, who said he did want to go forward but with a different plot from the one Klubien had proposed. With that, Klubien and Ranft set to work on scripting and illustrating the main beats of the new story and, according to Klubien, created a version that had all the main elements of the finished movie. Klubien went with Lasseter as he pitched the project first to Jobs and then to a top team from Disney, including then-CEO Michael Eisner and Roy Disney. [...]

Klubien believed Lasseter had promised he could co-direct the film. Instead Lasseter named himself as the sole director. Klubien was told his consolation prize would be a story and co-writing credit, shared with Ranft and Lasseter. But Klubien says that while Lasseter gave notes, he was not involved in the day-to-day writing of the script. In meetings on the project, Klubien says, Lasseter often seemed to echo things that he or Ranft had just said — but the person taking notes included only Lasseter's words, making it appear that Lasseter had originated thoughts he was merely repeating. Klubien adds that he had observed the same tactic during the making of A Bug's Life.

Finally, Lasseter shocked Klubien by taking him off the film altogether. Klubien remained at Pixar, developing other ideas, and says he came up with several, including one called The Spirit of New Orleans that he thinks eventually may have morphed into the 2009 Disney film The Princess and the Frog. In 2003, Klubien was fired from Pixar after 10 years at the company. He says he was told that no one wanted to work with him. After that, he says, he found it difficult to get hired elsewhere, a problem that he thought was compounded because he believed his credits did not reflect all of his work at Pixar. [...]

Klubien continues: "I was the creative spark behind this franchise. It's John's genius that he got it going, that he was the master of Pixar. And if he had allowed me to be part of it all, I would've been his biggest champion. But I find it to be an abusive thing that he got rid of me to claim sole inventorship." He says Lasseter used to advise people in plain language to learn to take credit. "The thing for me is, why can't you say what it really was?" Klubien says. "You're great enough in that role. What's wrong with that? I just don't get it."
They only allowed them to attend meetings. How insulting.
A number of Pixar veterans say the company never had a welcoming environment for women. A glimpse of that became public in 2011, when Brenda Chapman, who had originated the idea for Brave and was in the middle of directing it, was pushed aside and replaced by Mark Andrews. She had been the first woman director of a Pixar feature and received a shared credit when the film was released in 2012. No other woman has ever received a directing credit on a Pixar movie, and no woman has ever been a member of the famed Pixar "Brain Trust," though some have attended meetings.
Wow, Pixar really treated women like dirt. :shock:
Another former Pixar insider says she and other women were mostly relegated to supporting roles and expected "to make it seem like the men knew what they were doing." Some women at the company came up with the term "bitchy mommy-wives" to describe the role they were expected to play.
Talk about incompetent leadership.
In recent years, this former insider says, it became harder to help Lasseter maintain his image of infallibility, such as when the release date of Pixar's The Good Dinosaur was pushed from November 2013 to May 2014 to November 2015. It was clear that the original approach was troubled, but Lasseter had not reached that conclusion on his own and no one had mustered the nerve to tell him. "He couldn't give notes or fix it," this person says. Ultimately Pixar revised the entire film in a frantic, all-hands rescue effort, scuttling most of the voice talent, including John Lithgow and Neil Patrick Harris. The final product was considered Pixar's first financial disappointment and was shut out of Oscar nominations.
Finally, someone calling out Iger and the company on their complicity and BS excuses.
At this point, some insiders believe Iger is quietly preparing to name new heads of Pixar and Disney Animation — those floated include Docter for Pixar and Rich Moore and Jennifer Lee at Disney Animation. But some veterans are angry, saying that the company allowed Lasseter to dominate — and to take credit for the work of others — for too long, only acting in the wake of the #MeToo movement.

"All of his behavior was condoned," says a longtime animator. "It wasn't just the drinking. It was his never having grown up. Some of senior management believed that was part of the secret ingredient when really the secret ingredient was a group of people."
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I'm glad that all of this is finally coming out. It's shocking how much everyone seemed to know, but I guess that's true across the board and not just for Disney. I really shouldn't be surprised at this point.

At least people are pointing out that he really wasn't this Walt Disney type figure and much if not most of his success was built upon the backs of others. It's really sickening to watch old featurettes and hear different people, such as Gennifer Goodwin, call him their own personal Walt Disney. And now to hear that even his pet project, Cars, wasn't even fully his.

I especially loved the part about him being talentless as an animator. I do think that could explain his enmity towards 2D animation and the Disney Renaissance, hence his handling of Glen Keane and Don Hahn. I knew about Keane's heart attack that occurred while he was working on Rapunzel and how he supposedly stepped down because of this, but the pieces all make sense now with the truth about Lasseter exposed.
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I didn't know he was awful to Don Hahn. I knew there was some bad blood with Glen Keane, but not to that extent either. I'm not shocked at all that he took credit over others. He saw himself as the "brand," and he had to look good at all times. Like a music artist that puts their name in writing credits without having done much of anything.

I used to give him the benefit of the doubt in regards to hand-drawn animation dying. I assumed the Disney company was behind Winnie the Pooh being the second feature just to stick a fork in the possibility of a hand-drawn comeback. Now I can believe Lasseter was a part of the effort from the start. I do remember that report a long time ago about how Lasseter was the one holding the door for the hand-drawn employees as they were fired and kicked out.

I'm sure that 'The Spirit of New Orleans' pitch was the beginning of The Princess and the Frog. Maybe that's why Lasseter insisted Randy Newman be involved.
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I guess his attitude towards hand drawn animation would explain why he didn't come across as particularly sincere on the Sleeping Beauty audio commentary while Leonard Maltin and Andreas Deja sounded genuinely enthusiastic.

Also... are the surprise villains Lasseter's idea or was that the idea of his employees using it as a way to tell us something? :mischief:
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Lasseter is just a complete piece of shit. May he be erased from Disney history. What a pig.

Also, I work for one the media giants and recognize the HR culture. You can’t go to them because they’re under control of the harassers. You have nowhere to go once you’ve been harassed. That’s how this is allowed to go on for so long.

If they don’t get rid of him nothing changes.
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Tristy wrote:Also... are the surprise villains Lasseter's idea or was that the idea of his employees using it as a way to tell us something? :mischief:
It is interesting how the last two Pixar movies have themes and characters that are rather relevant to these revelations about Lasseter. "Cars 3" involves a major character who wants a dream job, but is not allowed to move forward from her current position because of sexist attitudes. And while "Coco" isn't the first Pixar film to involve a seemingly trustworthy character proving to not be so good after all, its message on the dangers of hero worship definitely seems to hit close to home.

And then coupled with these revelations about where many of the ideas for "Cars" came from, the reveal that Ernesto de la Cruz didn't actually come up with his popular songs feels especially biting.
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Thanks for posting that, Sotiris.

As an artist and a gay man who has worked in an office, I can imagine being at my dream job and being bullied and not saying anything because one does not want to jeopardize a DREAM job.

If you google Jorgen Klubien, the animator, his Wikipedia page shows him on stage with his band from 2012! It SUCKS that someone took his work on Cars and wrote it off as their own. At the very least, I am at awe and happy for Klubien because he must really love being on stage. And you know what? This shows he's multi-talented versus Lasseter. (Pfft. Lasseter can't even draw.)

About Joe Ranft's death...I did feel a shift in Pixar films. They were a lot less experimental to try new things. They reiterated the same formula. Ranft's sense of humor lacks in the films ever since...Wall-E? I always thought Lasseter would not want to try new things ever since Ranft's death. But, now we know it is because Ranft was the only one who could him notes without Lasseter feeling all defensive and abusive towards others. What kind of environment is THAT to work in?

I'm scared nothing will change. I'm scared they'll bring him back. But if worse comes to worse and it comes to this, does anyone think there will be riots? Marches? Someone will do something about it? Will the general public slowly not see Disney as a great company anymore? :cry:
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It makes a lot of sense that Lasseter more or less stole Cars. No wonder the franchise has always felt so derivative and compromised!

I'm glad that this is all coming to light. While I used to respect a lot of his contributions to Pixar and Disney, something always rubbed me the wrong way about him. There's little surprise that there's a reason for such.
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It is ironic that he has been praised as the savior of animation, considering all the talent that has left Disney since he entered. One of the first was Chris Sanders, who saw his American Dog turned into Bolt.

Hypothetically, if Lasster should return, he should be given the task of designing new toys and amusement park attractions, tinkering away in his own little workshop like some Geppetto, and kept away from animation.
But Disney is probably realising the negative impact his return would have on the stock market.

Regarding credits for Cars, this is the story Lasseter himself told the media:
Mr. Lasseter recounted how the idea for the film was born in the summer of 2000 when, exhausted after nearly a decade of work on films like "Toy Story" and "Monsters, Inc.," he decided to take a cross-country road trip with his wife and five sons.

A large man habitually garbed in a capacious Hawaiian shirt — a look that suggests a perpetual fantasy vacation — Mr. Lasseter is the son of a onetime Chevrolet parts manager in Whittier, Calif. He had long wanted to make a film about the car culture.

When he returned to the studio from his vacation, he plunged into the new project.

The theme is a tried and true one that grew out of Mr. Lasseter's own experience: getting out of the fast lane and understanding that the journey is the reward — a phrase often used both by Mr. Lasseter and by Steven P. Jobs, Pixar's co-founder.
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Re: Lasseter Sexually Assaulted Women

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I completely forgot that Chris Sanders was essentially booted out of Disney too and that was also Lasseter's fault. I always wanted to see American Dog rather than the very derivative Bolt, so that's another huge loss. He really has driven out most of Disney's talent. I wonder if Sanders would ever consider coming back if Lasseter was permanently gone to resume work on American Dog.
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