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I don't think he finds the film less emotional, I think he is bypassing the emotion altogether. And I disagree with the rest of your post.

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Now you're twisting your own words around. Do you even realize what you're saying at this point?

What's up with your emotional heart, dude?

[He] seemed to prefer humor and thrills over emotion.

I don't know how people find Coco less emotional than the four other Pixar films you mentioned.

What you quoted totally says to me he prefers humor and thrills over emotion

But this film is more emotional than humorous and thrilling and he makes no mention of it.

If he doesn't prefer humor and thrills to emotion...

The whole crux of your arguments over the past few posts is that you wanted Luke to talk about the emotion because you mistakenly believed he prefers thrills and humor to it. Now you're claiming that his absence of talking about emotion is not so much about him thinking the film is less emotional, but that he has no consideration or opinion for that particular aspect of the film at all. Make up your damn mind.


Disagree or not, there is roughly ten years of posts one could search through to find plenty of cases where you present your opinion as absolute fact, and I'm sure plenty of them will also show your confirmation bias as well.

Albert

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WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?

WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?

I originally wrote Escapay won, and he still may, but after thinking about it, I am still bothered by Luke skipping over the emotion of the film and sounding like humor and thrills are what mattered to make a film one of Pixar's best. If I'm wrong, I'd really like to know. I know Luke appreciates emotion, I just didn't like what he said in this particular review and what I felt he was saying that I was to gather from his words.

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Hey, Luke, there's an error that has not been fixed yet, so in case you want to fix it, I just wanted to report that your wrote "St Wars: The Last Jedi" instead of Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

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This is not about winning. This is about getting it through your clearly-addled head that just because a person doesn't talk about emotion in a review, does not mean they themselves are neglecting that particular aspect of their film-viewing experience. And it certainly doesn't mean that they apply that weird logic to an entire studio's oeuvre. I'm just going to share something Luke wrote six years ago. It pretty much destroys any assumption one may have that he doesn't consider the emotion of a film (Pixar or otherwise) when he's viewing them.



Albert

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WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?

WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?

I'm really glad Luke wrote that. And you're right Escapay that he didn't have to mention emotion, but Coco was so emotional, like it was such a big part of it, I didn't get why Luke made no mention of it and instead talked about only the humor and thrills he said it had less of. If he didn't find the film emotional, I can't understand how. Also, confirmation bias on your part on me being "clearly-addled."

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*sigh*

No, it is not confirmation bias. Confirmation bias would be if I were to make my own assumption of you, and re-interpret your words into meaning what I want them to mean. All I've done is take your words and interpret them exactly as written. Luke clearly cares about the emotion of a film. Your confirmation bias makes you think he doesn't, simply because of what he chooses to talk about (and not talk about) in one, solitary review. I've tried to give evidence that Luke cares, and your only response is, "Oh, okay, I'm glad he wrote that. It still doesn't explain Coco." You are missing the point.
That he chooses not to talk about it in one, solitary review is the argument you're presenting, but it amounts to nothing more than: "I wanted him to, why didn't he?" which you've continued to stretch out to mean that Luke either doesn't care about emotion, or that he only prefers humor and thrills. I've quoted your words already on it before, showing you clearly the words you chose to use, and yet you still don't understand it.

No, my confirmation bias is not showing, because I'm not using it. As for addled:

addled

verb (used with or without object), addled, addling.

1. to make or become confused.

Evidence:


All of which is pretty confusing when someone's trying to figure out where you stand on Luke's review.

First you say it was pretty positive overall, but you wanted to know why he didn't talk about emotion.

Then you say he prefers humor and thrills when there was never any evidence to point that way.

Then you say that he bypasses emotion altogether.

Then you say that you didn't like what he said in this review.

But twice earlier, you say you may be wrong on what you think he says.

But you still are questioning it.

Addled.

QED.

Albert

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WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?

WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?

"I wanted him to, why didn't he?" is completey incorrect. It is true I want him to, but it isn't the problem. It is that the film is very much full of emotion (not an opinion, as it is clear the filmakers put in things intended to be emotional as opposed to humorous or thrilling or something else) and yet he makes no mention of it and I find that not necessarily to be confusing but to make me wonder what is going on, and along with making no mention of emotion he says it wasn't as good as Pixar's best films and didn't have as much humor and thrills as Pixar's best films. What, then, can be concluded but that he skips emotion for this film and prefers humor and thrills and thinks that humor and thrills would make the film better and are what matters? It is true that by your provided evidence it looks like Luke does care about emotion to some degree, but alongside the evidence that he skips emotion to talk about humor and thrills making Pixar's films the best, you can see where some evidence also points. He may care about emotion but seems to prefer humor and thrills.


Indeed this is about me wondering what is going on.


A statement.


A realization.


Me wondering again. If you want to call it confused, I guess you could, but it wasn't about what you sounded like you thought I was confused about.


A statement on what the evidence says to me.


A statement which points to me not having confirmation bias, and in relation to the rest of what I have written, it says, "I might be wrong about Luke preferring humor and thrills to emotion, but I don't think I am because of such and such evidence." That should not be confusing to someone.


Yeah, this again should not be confusing.


Or this.


Or this. He didn't talk about the emotion at all. He may appreciate emotion, but he skipped over it in his review of Coco.


Where is the confusion here?


Yes, I acknowledge the Luke appreciates emotion, but I didn't like what he said, and I didn't like that he seemed to be saying emotion doesn't matter as much as humor or thrills or even that he may be suggesting the film has no emotion as he makes no mention of it!

In addition, I took a look at Luke's review of The Lego Batman Movie and it points to him appreicating emotion, but then he talks about the film succeeding because of wit, humor, and excitement and not emotion and so, I'm still left wondering...

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You're rewriting your posts again. Pretty much everything we've discussed here has rested on the simple fact that you thought Coco is emotional, but Luke's review makes no mention of emotion, and you clearly felt it should.


And it begins your "Luke doesn't care about emotion" thread that you've inferred throughout the next several posts. By your questioning about it at all, you basically imply that you feel he doesn't have the emotional capacity that you want him to have.


No, an inference ("he seemed to prefer..."), and the first of many that you confuse as fact.


One which you still don't understand.


Because over the past few responses in this thread, you have been inconsistent in your claims about emotion, Luke, and writing about it in reviews (Coco or otherwise). Either you're wondering why he doesn't write about it, you use your confirmation bias to state that he prefers other things to emotion, then you say that he outright neglects it entirely. This is simply the beginning of it, because you fixate specifically on why, out of all the films, Luke doesn't talk about emotion in one film you want him to talk about emotion.


You're basically confirming your confirmation bias which was informed by your inference of his review.


Your attempted rebuttal just shows your confirmation bias. "I might be wrong [...] but I don't think I am." That's how someone with confirmation bias thinks. They can see all the evidence in the world in front of them, but interpret it solely to mean what they want it to mean. You are altering facts to fit your views rather than considering altering your views to fit the facts.


You're trying to turn confirmation bias back on me when all I've done is taken the facts of the review and of your statements and shown them for what they are. That's the confusion, because you don't fully understand confirmation bias.


It is confusion because you are known on this forum for presenting your opinion as fact.


And therein is the confusion. You hinge so much on that he didn't talk about emotion that your questioning of why has been muddled, again traveling from the point of "he doesn't talk about it" to "he doesn't prefer it" to "he ignores emotion completely."


As if you'd ever accept that you're wrong about your confirmation bias.


So basically, the "I wanted him to, why didn't he?" that you said was incorrect.


If you're going to play that game, then just go through every single review of his and cite when he talks about emotion.

You've laid claim that he doesn't consider the emotion of a Pixar film when compared to all their works, so why not widen the scope and go through all sixteen years of his reviews if you're suddenly going to throw in The Lego Batman Movie into the mix.

I'm fed up with this thread because you keep going in circles on what you want, what you say you want, what you think I'm saying, and what you interpret in order to support what you think you said earlier. If there's a response to this, I'm ignoring it because life is too short to argue with you.

Albert

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WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?

WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?

I thought you were saying the only reason I was asking "why didn't he?" was because I "wanted him to", but it is also because I found it amiss that he didn't. But I didn't realize you are right about him praising Pixar for emotion. I do understand it's his opinion, I am not inconsistent, I am not altering facts, and I don't think he ignores emotion in life, just in that review, which is true! But about the rest you're right, you win.

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Well I really liked your The Disaster Artist review, Luke. I t was great! Good pick-up on how you saw James Franco's portrayal and what the movie was doing. I didn't know you read the book and saw The Room! I have seen The Room in preparation for the film with some friends. It is so bad it's good, but it's also kind of hard to watch, it's a little unbearable!

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Hey, I thought the review of Call Me By Your Name was really good! I think Luke summed it up well that it focused on atmosphere, acting and emotion more than a story. I felt it was bad that it didn't have much in the way of story, but now I see what the film was trying to do and I like it even more.

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Hey Luke, love the new stills that come with the front page news!

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I do, too! Looks nice.

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I thought so, too.

While I'm here, just wanted to say I loved the Deadpool 2 review.

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Listening to most often lately:
Anastasia OBC ~ "In My Dreams"
Anastasia OBC ~ "Journey to the Past"
Anastasia OBC ~ "Quartet at the Ballet"

I liked your The Nun review Luke! I saw the movie and liked it.

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Luke, were you being serious when you said Smallfoot had a dark story?!

EDIT: Ok so I read the review and I guess you were serious. The movie sounds lame, but it looked a different, goofy kind of lame from the commercials anyway. Thanks for the review!

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I read your Green Book review! I usually don't read reviews of movies before I see them because they give me preconceptions of the film before I see it and I feel that can ruin me forming my own opinion. I liked your review, how you explained the film along with explaining how you feel critics say what they say and why they are that way and why what they say is important. Great stuff. I wonder if I'll ever feel differently about the film if I ever see it just because audiences and critics have been saying such good things about it.

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Well, Luke, your first page description made me seek out Roma on Netflix. It was a really good movie...but also one of those that is really good but also boring. In the end, I'm glad I saw it but it really bored me and I don't ever care to see it again.

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Hey Luke, I liked your It: Chapter Two review. I liked how you said the film has the adults battling their inner fears and demons and how both films really are more sophisticated and offer so much characterization. I liked the movie a lot when I saw it.

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