Disney's Divinity wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:
And I might remind you that it was you who brought up the topic of Cinderella's costumes first in this discussion as seen here.
You're right, because I could see what direction the thread was about to turn. Better to rip off the bandaid and jump straight down the rabbit hole, imo.
You automatically assume the worst, and I might add that Cinderella is only the "worst" to you. You start raving whenever the film is even indirectly mentioned. Just look at the OUAT thread. I'm not a fan of the new season either, but you seemed to have formed your opinion entirely on the basis that they're using Cinderella's live-action dress. Never mind, that despite the dress, the season has nothing to do with the live-action film, but it's the reason for your ire if you can secretly admit it to yourself.
Disney's Divinity wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:
So if anyone is "trolling" by posting about Cinderella, it's you.
I know current politics usually requires labeling the other person what you yourself are to deflect and divert, but it still makes me laugh every time.
Um, let's correct this statement. First of all, you were the one who called me and Disney Duster trolls first. So by your own logic of reasoning, that makes you the real troll, which is exactly why I called you that. Because when Duster and I bring up Cinderella, it's because we have something constructive to say, while you only bring the film up to get a rise out of someone. Maybe it brings you a cheap thrill, I don't know and I don't want to know. But that makes you the picture perfect definition of a troll. Literally everything you posted in the first quote of this post proves that. You assumed that Cinderella was going to be mentioned so you decided to bring it up first by attacking it as you always do.
Disney's Divinity wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:
You bring up Cinderella just as much as Disney Duster and I, if not more than both of us combined, by bringing up incendiary comments about it in order to get a reaction out of someone.
If you want to take a tally, I'm sure if you were to go back in this thread, you would find 9 times out of 10, I did not bring
Cinderella up first. Just last page Duster brought it up because he was dismayed the only thing he thought he had over B&tB (that Cinderella has better reviews) wasn't true and that they are seen pretty much equally. And then I responded. And I'm sure it'll be the same in The Little Mermaid-LA thread once it gears up because the world revolves around Cinderella, and moreover he has a jealousy of all the popular fairytales that aren't Cinderella. I know he drove off most of the B&tB fans back when. I thought if I put a nail in that coffin with B&tB-LA, I might be spared that shit when the TLM-LA gets closer down the pipeline.
At the top of page 82, you brought up Cinderella...again. With no prompting from anyone else.
Disney's Divinity wrote:
I hope "Evermore" wins Best Song. I'm conflicted about Best Picture. On one hand, I'd like to see it nominated, but not win because the original is far superior. On the other hand, the idea of it being nominated/winning and all the Cinderella fans seething some more would be very enjoyable.
Literally the posts before that are just us ragging on Belle's dress again, but Cinderella isn't even mentioned or alluded to. You instantly get defensive right after that post and start calling out the Cinderella fans.
Disney's Divinity wrote:
tsom wrote:
LOL, no shade, but it's not going to win Best Picture, or even be nominated.
I only discussed it because others were doing so. Why don't you reply to them? They might even appreciate the Cinderella worship since that's the only reason they come in the B&tB thread anyway.
Keep looking past that post, and Duster and I only talk about Cinderella in response to tsom's post since he posted the image of all the categories Disney submitted Cinderella for in the Oscars. We completely disregard your usual pessimistic post, because there's no substance in there to address.
After that, yes, Disney Duster does bring up Cinderella in order to talk about the reviews (this is still page 82) in comparison to Beauty and the Beast. Frankly, I'm not sure what review sites he was reading, because I read mostly positive reviews for Cinderella with only a few mixed/negative ones who weren't pleased with how similar this film was to the original. I think this film got that flack even more, because it was the first current live-action film to be so similar to the original if you consider Maleficent and Alice. Whereas even before BATB came out, we were discussing on here how the Rotten Tomatoes score was really low and how those early ratings just get lower as the film comes out. Indeed, I've seen far more mixed reviews on BATB than Cinderella. Some people praise it and call it even better than the original while others recognize it as being an empty cash-grab. It's debatable who's right or not, but BATB was far more mixed. At least from everything I've seen so far review-wise and that doesn't just include the typical IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, etc.
Disney's Divinity wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:
Well if the sky is blue and most of the world seems to think it is
My bad, I didn't realize you'd met most of the world. Thanks for letting me know. I file that away to the appropriate place (the trashbin).
If you have to resort to cheap fallacies to try and make an argument, then I think we're done here. At least this statement didn't contain a highly aggressive diatribe about Cinderella. Congratulations on formulating a whole sentence without mentioning it. In order for you to keep your praise, I'll pretend that you didn't mention it so many other times in the same post, because I think you really need this little bit of commendation.