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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:14 am 
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Lopez promises a very different tone than that of Frozen. “Frozen was darker than what Gigantic is going to be.”
Source: http://www.etonline.com/features/204513 ... _broadway/

This worries me. I'm hoping the songs won't be silly and inconsequential. The song previewed at D23 was horrible and I was kind of expecting they'd go with a different direction with the music now that the story is being reworked.

Personally, I'm not too worried, since I consider Avenue Q a lighthearted musical (with occasionally adult topics...) and it's the main reason I was looking forward to them being involved with Disney. But, like you, I am hoping the D23 song is improved.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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Can't they hire a Spanish musician like they did with Moana and Opetaia Foa'i, might bring accuracy to the setting of the film and bring a new genre of songs to the disney pantheon.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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Lopez promises a very different tone than that of Frozen. “Frozen was darker than what Gigantic is going to be.”
Source: http://www.etonline.com/features/204513 ... _broadway/
This worries me. I'm hoping the songs won't be silly and inconsequential. The song previewed at D23 was horrible and I was kind of expecting they'd go with a different direction with the music now that the story is being reworked.

Really? Ouch... Then let's hope their other songs will turn out to be better.

Regardless of the easy solution to use the Lopezes due to them being an easy cash-in, at least they were able to deliver a couple of stirring songs for Frozen (despite that the rest of them were disappointingly meh). So we could always hope.

And due to Frozen being this era's The Lion King, isn't it strange that Disney didn't use that music team for other animated projects back in the day? The only one has been Mark Mancina, but even he wasn't the main composer for The Lion King.


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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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Sotiris, do you know where I can hear the D23 song?

Maybe Sotiris was referring to the reports from the attendants to the D23 presentation. Or is there any recording of the song online?

Here's some info about the song and some lyrics form those reports:

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Those in the room also got to hear a bit of the first song from Gigantic, as sung live by Lopez and Anderson-Lopez. The song occurs after Inma finds Jack in her room, to her delight. He struggles to explain that he’s a man, and she sings:

I love my little man, I love my little man, you can make him do this, you can make him do this.

You can wash him in a dish, be care he gets ticklish, my teeny little man.

In a life that’s kind of lonely, I thought if only, I had a little man.
Source: http://www.slashfilm.com/disney-giganti ... beanstalk/

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They sang a very early version of a song which will be sung by Inma as she starts playing with her “little man:” “You can toss him in the air, you can comb his air, my itty bitty man, I love my little man.” It has lots and lots of jokes, like the Frozen song “Love is an Open Door.”
Source: http://io9.gizmodo.com/disney-to-make-t ... 1724235002

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“You can toss him in the air //
You can comb his tiny hair //
My fluffy, stuffy, puffy little man”
Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/4 ... on-studios

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The song begins just as Inma’s discovered Jack- she thinks he’s a toy- and the song plays through all the ideas she’s got for her new tiny toy man. “You can wash him in a dish,” for example. He also makes a great bookmark (Inma fits Jack between two pages and slams the cover shut- Jack grunts in horrible pain). When Inma shoves him into a paper airplane (which crashes into a houseplant), he’s her “flying, crying, almost dying little man.”
Source: https://filmschoolrejects.com/10-things ... .kdjcfveqp

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The couple took to the stage, thanking the others for bringing them onto Gigantic. They then started performing a song from the movie live with a storyboard in the background. The scene is when Ima meets Jack, discovering him in her room. When he finally gets a word in, he says, "I'm a man!"

"There are so many things you can do with a little man! You can toss him in the air, you can pet his tiny hair, my pretty pretty pretty little man. You can make him do this, you can make him do this, and he even makes a pretty good bookmark!" She plays with him like a doll, makes him shoot baskets, wear a dress, and yes, puts him in a book. "He's cutest when he's jumping on a sponge cake..."
Source: http://comicbook.com/2015/08/14/d23-exp ... ing-slate/


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And due to Frozen being this era's The Lion King, isn't it strange that Disney didn't use that music team for other animated projects back in the day? The only one has been Mark Mancina, but even he wasn't the main composer for The Lion King.

Disney actually tried to make another animated film with them, but it ended up becoming a Broadway musical. This is from Wikipedia:

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Aida was originally conceived for production as an animated musical film by Disney executives, who wanted to do another project with the collaborative team of Sir Elton John and Sir Tim Rice, following the success enjoyed by the animated film The Lion King, Disney wanted to do another animated feature, and it was John's idea to develop the story directly as a musical.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aida_(musical)

Also, though not for Disney, the same music team from The Lion King (except Mark Mancina) did the music for DreamWorks’ The Road to El Dorado. And more recently Elton John also worked on Gnomeo and Juliet, which was distributed by Disney through Touchstone Pictures.

And though Disney hasn’t worked with Elton John again, they have used the same idea of hiring well-known singers/musicians to do the songs for their animated films again with Phil Collins (Tarzan and Brother Bear) and Sting (The Emperor’s New Groove).


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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:26 am 
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I talked to Brendan Connely and it sounds like Imna may already have been cast, depending on how reworked the movie is.

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So, are they auditioning for Imna (Gigantic) right now? I just bumped into some audition tapes and the girls follow the same script


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They had auditions a little over year ago. If they've reworked the role they may be recasting.

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@brendonconnelly Interesting they had auditions b/c it wasn't announced and at all big as Moana. I honestly doubt they're changing her much

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Moana auditions were part PR, partly due to the difficulty of casting to Moana's ethnicity. This is an easier casting job.

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@brendonconnelly Aaaah, that makes so much sense. Are they trying to cast an Hispanic/Spanish girl b/c the movie is in Spain?

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As far as I am aware, they took tapes from non-latin actresses.

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@brendonconnelly Yup, all of the audition tapes I saw were from white girls


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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:21 pm 
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Disneyprincess11, Yeah, last September you posted a Viemo vid of this girl voicing/singing for the role of Inma. Wonder how she did?


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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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lel, as if spanish folks aren't white. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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Also from the looks of it, the Giants won't be Spanish but more Anglo-Saxon. So, in this case I do wonder if a Spanish girl would be suitable. I do think they should get some authentic Spanish actors. And I mean people who have a history in Spain, and not Latin American countries which is pretty different.


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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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^Eh, you're asking too much of people who think Spain and Chile, Argentina, Columbia, etc are all the same thing just because they speak the same language. Or that there cannot "be" white latinos/hispanics. :lol:

I'm thinking they'll treat the Spanish setting sorta like it was in Frozen in Norway: there, but not overt. At least not as much as it was in Moana. (I'd like the Moana treatment but eh, could be worse- looks at Elena of Avalor mix and match setting-.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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yeah it will be very generic and "Barbie", Disney now has proof that this approach is more marketable, sadly. :(

I hope they at least pick an interesting time period, the Renaissance/Age of Enlightenment would be cool...

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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unprincess wrote:
yeah it will be very generic and "Barbie", Disney now has proof that this approach is more marketable, sadly. :(

I hope they at least pick an interesting time period, the Renaissance/Age of Enlightenment would be cool...


At D23 in 2015, Nathan Greno said the film was to be set in the Age of Exploration. I can't recall the exact quote, but somehow that is what possesses Jack to explore the realm of the Giants.

As for Inma, she is inspired by a real life Inma they met on a research trip to Spain (they showed a picture) who charmed them with her precociousness. I believe her look (including that she is blonde) is drawn from this real life girl.


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Age of Exploration... so that would coincide with the Renaissance...cool! 8)

I know they initially planned to set it in Spain but supposedly so much has changed about the film's story its always possible they've dropped the original setting or more likely are going to use it but in a more watered down way like how thedisneyspirit mentioned.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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unprincess wrote:
yeah it will be very generic and "Barbie"

Barbie? Sorry for nitpicking, but how so?

I have a feeling that it will be somewhat reminiscent of the kingdom in Tangled. But that's a reason for looking forward to Gigantic, due to it's fairytale setting, but also that it will (most likely) have a lush, bright and pastel colorful setting which one usually associate with Disney fairytales. Which truly could be said about Tangled's setting.


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Still wondering if the "Fee Fi Fo Fum" song will be as hilarious as this:


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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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yeah it will be very generic and "Barbie"

Barbie? Sorry for nitpicking, but how so?

I have a feeling that it will be somewhat reminiscent of the kingdom in Tangled. But that's a reason for looking forward to Gigantic, due to it's fairytale setting, but also that it will (most likely) have a lush, bright and pastel colorful setting which one usually associate with Disney fairytales. Which truly could be said about Tangled's setting.


yeah,I dont associate the older Disney animated fairy tales with bright pastel colors, I associate direct to dvd Barbie movies with that. Most of the older Disney fairy tale films had more mood and atmosphere and a different range of color from monochrome to the varnished look of Snow White to very intense range of colors of Aladdin, and often within the same film.

And I felt Tangled had that very generic Barbie movie look too, it was always way too saturated with candy colors, all of the time. I think they did a better job with Frozen but Frozen sometimes would still have that cheap overly colored look. Moana was amazing though, they really did a great job there.

Also Frozen and Tangled were much more generic wth the way the European cultures were represented in the film as opposed to Moana with was very immersive in its Polynesian culture.

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 Post subject: Re: Gigantic
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^Exactly. They took a lot of care to tackle down the polynesian setting in Moana, and while I'd like to think that'd represent the way Disney will address culture from now on, I'm pretty sure Gigantic will just use the setting in a very "generic" way.

Like the castles or buildings will resemble famous buildings (maybe the town resembling Toledo? The giants' realm inspired by Gaudi's artwork (wait, that one actually sounds very cool and creative)?), one or two characters having a strong/stereotypical accent, one-two songs based on spanish music (something like flamenco), and maybe some token mention of croquetas/bulls/sun. But that's it. The rest will just be something more generic/modern.

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unprincess wrote:
yeah,I dont associate the older Disney animated fairy tales with bright pastel colors, I associate direct to dvd Barbie movies with that. Most of the older Disney fairy tale films had more mood and atmosphere and a different range of color from monochrome to the varnished look of Snow White to very intense range of colors of Aladdin, and often within the same film.

Alright, fair enough.

Personally I felt Snow White and Cinderella had their fair share of bright pastel colors. But I consider bright pastel colors to have a connection to fairy tales. But that's just me, though.

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And I felt Tangled had that very generic Barbie movie look too, it was always way too saturated with candy colors, all of the time. I think they did a better job with Frozen but Frozen sometimes would still have that cheap overly colored look. Moana was amazing though, they really did a great job there.

At least Tangled was brighter than Frozen. Frozen did have some bright scenes, but they were overall in minority. Moana was fairly bright as well, but that's due to it's setting. The same could be said about Frozen about their bright colors being in minority.

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Also Frozen and Tangled were much more generic wth the way the European cultures were represented in the film as opposed to Moana with was very immersive in its Polynesian culture.

At least Tangled was non-specific about it's setting and was probably meant to be a fairytale-esque mixture of a kingdom and a setting. Whereas Frozen, despite having a specific, cultural setting and addressing it several times, could've done it better. But I've ranted enough about it, so I shan't repeat myself.

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Exactly. They took a lot of care to tackle down the polynesian setting in Moana, and while I'd like to think that'd represent the way Disney will address culture from now on, I'm pretty sure Gigantic will just use the setting in a very "generic" way.

Though it definitively will add fuel to the fire, I think Disney really tries harder with their non-European settings than their European ones. Mostly due to the political scrutiny which the non-Caucasian ones get (cough, Aladdin and Pocahontas, cough) and the political correctness. Though this isn't an implication that Disney doesn't give care or thought to their European settings, they still have more at stake with their non-European ones.


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Personally I felt Snow White and Cinderella had their fair share of bright pastel colors. But I consider bright pastel colors to have a connection to fairy tales. But that's just me, though.


well, yes, I do sense more pastel tones with Cinderella & Little Mermaid as well, but I guess, maybe b/c of the grainy nature of film, the colors have a more washed out monotone look(lots of greys.) Aladdin is one film were I do feel its colors are very saturated all throughout but there it kind of fits b/c of the film's sunny setting.

the Golden era films always had this varnished look to me, like old classic paintings. Im talking about the way the films used to look on video and dvd btw. I have hardly had any time to watch these films in their newer blu-ray restorations but from the little Ive seen they look very different now, its like they totally removed that varnish layer and they now have more bluer, more pastel tones.

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Though it definitively will add fuel to the fire, I think Disney really tries harder with their non-European settings than their European ones. Mostly due to the political scrutiny which the non-Caucasian ones get (cough, Aladdin and Pocahontas, cough) and the political correctness. Though this isn't an implication that Disney doesn't give care or thought to their European settings, they still have more at stake with their non-European ones.


yes Ive always had that sense as well, that they feel they absolutely cant screw up with their depictions of non-western settings, but less so with western ones. Though I really wish they would be more detailed in their western set films. I just find generic fairy tale settings(like the ones you see depicted in Barbie films) boring, and I felt Tangled was too close to that.

To be fair though now that I think of it, Cinderella & Little Mermaid were sorta generic in their depictions of the time & place they were set in as well, and those were older Disney films, so no its not something thats only been done with the newer films. I just wish they wouldn't do it so much.

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Disney, put it out of its misery.

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http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-epis ... ease-date/


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Disney, put it out of its misery.

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http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-epis ... ease-date/


More like they sold out for ca$h grab sequels. Why stress over a new original feature when you can make $$$ off sequels? Because they know people are stupid & will pay to see the same crap year after year, an executive's wet dream! This is clearly corporate/Pixar influence running WDAS. So enjoy more Frozen, more Toy Story, More Cars :x :down:


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