Disney's Mort
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Guys, I hate to be bearer of bad news, but I wouldn't blame the author Terry Pratchett for somebody else making the film. He was alive when the rights issue flared up with Disney, but he passed away early last year. I assume that the rights were won again by another studio in between the author's passing, which is why they might not have had to pander to his requests.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31858156
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31858156
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I had thought he might have passed a while back because I remember something about a ghostwriter or whatever doing a few Discworld novels after he died, but I was too lazy to Google.
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Honestly, I don't blame Terry for turning Disney down for the rights. Based on the concept arts, this looked like a typical Disney love story when really it isn't. It's disappointing this was never made, but if Terry thought Disney would soil it, so be it
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The Unmade Terry Pratchett Movies (and Why They Didnโt Happen)
By Marc Burrows
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/unmade ... nt-happen/
By Marc Burrows
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/unmade ... nt-happen/
...Pratchett and Smythe finally found a cinematic home for Mort in 1996 when a deal was announced with New Line Cinema...in partnership with a British company, Scala Productions, and British writer/director Paul Bamborugh...Directors and writers came and went, New Line appeared to drop out of the picture altogether....
Pratchett had been approached by Walt Disney Animation Studios about adapting Mort into a full blown, all singing, all dancing animated musical feature....an art department was set up, which even distributed a Christmas card featuring Death dressed as Father Christmas...
...There were two snags. The first was that the rights to Mort, acquired back in 1996, still resided with Paul Bamborough and his new company, Camel Productions, though Disney probably had enough money to sort that out. More worrying for Pratchett was a revelation during a meeting in New York that, should he give Mort to the House of Mouse, they would have automatic rights to make further films using all of the characters and locations within it, including adapting all of the books that they appeared in.
Since the main character of Mort is Death himself, who cameos or stars in almost every Discworld novel, numbering some 39 books by that point, plus short stories and spinoffs, this was something of a problem. It is, apparently, the only time one particular Disney lawyer ever found himself being literally screamed at by a prospective collaborator. The deal fell apart, right there in the meeting.
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Ah, interesting. I assumed Mort fell through because it always felt inevitable that it wouldn't work out because of the book itself (and because M&C wanted it to be hand-drawn...). Makes you wonder if it might've actually survived--perhaps as a 3D film--if he hadn't pulled out?? It would've been the last WDAS film based off a book if it had, right?
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Haha, a Disney lawyer got screamed at! Interesting info, blackcauldron85. Couldn't Disney just not have been wankers once and let the deal happen by not trying to force them to let them use the characters and locations in whatever else they wanted?
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This is probably one of the reasons Disney stopped adapting stories and started doing only original films. The other reasons might be not having complete control over the characters and being unable to adapt fairy tales for "modern audience".
While I think Musker and Clements would have made a great film out of this story, I don't think they would have been very faithful to it, since I've read it is pretty dark for a Disney film, especially nowadays.
While I think Musker and Clements would have made a great film out of this story, I don't think they would have been very faithful to it, since I've read it is pretty dark for a Disney film, especially nowadays.
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A bunch of Character designs and concept art by James Lopez:
There are 8 more designs on his website (including a funny interaction between Mort and DEATH ) https://www.jameslopezanimation.com/mort
I think it's a shame that Disney didn't take the opportunity to make this happen, as it would really be something fresh and out of the ordinary, but oh well (i really do like the elephant emoji)
Now that I look at it, Mort looks a bit like a mix of an older Timmy Turner and Varian from the Tangled Series (and I kinda like it)There are 8 more designs on his website (including a funny interaction between Mort and DEATH ) https://www.jameslopezanimation.com/mort
I think it's a shame that Disney didn't take the opportunity to make this happen, as it would really be something fresh and out of the ordinary, but oh well (i really do like the elephant emoji)
My favourite Disney songs:
๐. ๐๐ช๐ป๐ฝ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐ฆ๐ธ๐ป๐ต๐ญ (๐ต๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ช๐ฒ๐ญ)
๐. ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ ๐ฒ๐ท ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ๐ผ (๐ฃ๐ช๐ท๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ผ)
๐. Wherever I go (Hannah Montana)
๐. ๐๐ป๐ธ๐พ๐ญ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐๐ธ๐ (๐๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ๐ฒ๐ท)
๐. ๐ฏ๐ฝ๐ ๐๐๐พ๐๐ท (๐๐ถ๐๐๐ถ๐ฝ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐ถ ๐๐๐๐พ๐)
& more: 1000 years ( Legend of the Neverbeast),
I'll try (Return to Neverland) , So close (Enchanted), ๐ด๐๐ยด๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐พ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (๐๐พ๐๐๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐พ๐๐ธ๐๐๐: ๐ธ๐๐ธ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐๐๐น ๐ฏ๐ถ๐๐๐), I thought I lost you (BOLT), Into the Unknown (Frozen 2)
๐. ๐๐ช๐ป๐ฝ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐ฆ๐ธ๐ป๐ต๐ญ (๐ต๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ช๐ฒ๐ญ)
๐. ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ ๐ฒ๐ท ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ๐ผ (๐ฃ๐ช๐ท๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ผ)
๐. Wherever I go (Hannah Montana)
๐. ๐๐ป๐ธ๐พ๐ญ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐๐ธ๐ (๐๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ๐ฒ๐ท)
๐. ๐ฏ๐ฝ๐ ๐๐๐พ๐๐ท (๐๐ถ๐๐๐ถ๐ฝ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐ถ ๐๐๐๐พ๐)
& more: 1000 years ( Legend of the Neverbeast),
I'll try (Return to Neverland) , So close (Enchanted), ๐ด๐๐ยด๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐พ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (๐๐พ๐๐๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐พ๐๐ธ๐๐๐: ๐ธ๐๐ธ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐๐๐น ๐ฏ๐ถ๐๐๐), I thought I lost you (BOLT), Into the Unknown (Frozen 2)
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I agree with this. Everything I've seen from this film looks interesting to me, such a missed opportunity.The Disneynerd wrote: โFri May 26, 2023 9:17 am I think it's a shame that Disney didn't take the opportunity to make this happen, as it would really be something fresh and out of the ordinary, but oh well
Thank you for sharing
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you're very welcome!
This got me thinking. It makes sense for Disney to deviate from novel adaptations where you have to risk a lot for ownership rights, but then Disney could theoretically still publish this rough story without Terry Pratchett's credit, since fairy tales are in the public domain, right? Because the Brothers Grimm published a very very similar fairy tale, titled "Godfather Death", it seems different enough, you can read it here:https://fairytalez.com/godfather-death/
(also, this website, which I discovered a month ago is a MUST for fairytale nerds, it has EVERY Fairytale in existense!!!!) I think
Does anyone know if it would be theoretically legal for Disney to do that, its not as if Terry Pratchett owns the death character, right??!?
My favourite Disney songs:
๐. ๐๐ช๐ป๐ฝ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐ฆ๐ธ๐ป๐ต๐ญ (๐ต๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ช๐ฒ๐ญ)
๐. ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ ๐ฒ๐ท ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ๐ผ (๐ฃ๐ช๐ท๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ผ)
๐. Wherever I go (Hannah Montana)
๐. ๐๐ป๐ธ๐พ๐ญ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐๐ธ๐ (๐๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ๐ฒ๐ท)
๐. ๐ฏ๐ฝ๐ ๐๐๐พ๐๐ท (๐๐ถ๐๐๐ถ๐ฝ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐ถ ๐๐๐๐พ๐)
& more: 1000 years ( Legend of the Neverbeast),
I'll try (Return to Neverland) , So close (Enchanted), ๐ด๐๐ยด๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐พ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (๐๐พ๐๐๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐พ๐๐ธ๐๐๐: ๐ธ๐๐ธ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐๐๐น ๐ฏ๐ถ๐๐๐), I thought I lost you (BOLT), Into the Unknown (Frozen 2)
๐. ๐๐ช๐ป๐ฝ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐ฆ๐ธ๐ป๐ต๐ญ (๐ต๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ต๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ถ๐ช๐ฒ๐ญ)
๐. ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ ๐ฒ๐ท ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ๐ผ (๐ฃ๐ช๐ท๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ผ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ผ)
๐. Wherever I go (Hannah Montana)
๐. ๐๐ป๐ธ๐พ๐ญ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐๐ธ๐พ๐ป ๐๐ธ๐ (๐๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ๐ฒ๐ท)
๐. ๐ฏ๐ฝ๐ ๐๐๐พ๐๐ท (๐๐ถ๐๐๐ถ๐ฝ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐ถ ๐๐๐๐พ๐)
& more: 1000 years ( Legend of the Neverbeast),
I'll try (Return to Neverland) , So close (Enchanted), ๐ด๐๐ยด๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐พ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (๐๐พ๐๐๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐พ๐๐ธ๐๐๐: ๐ธ๐๐ธ๐ฝ๐ถ๐๐๐๐น ๐ฏ๐ถ๐๐๐), I thought I lost you (BOLT), Into the Unknown (Frozen 2)
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I guess it would, but I don't see current Disney doing a movie about death.