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This is wrong. Walt Disney made his company come up with original takes on stories that were not owned by other companies. This is just so wrong, so un-Disney.
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Silver Samurai is going to be in The Wolverine, being done by Fox, so they're most likely going to have to write him out of this.Sotiris wrote:Doesn't Fox own the theatrical film rights to Silver Samurai and Sunfire through the X-Men universe? I suppose they'll use the new version of Big Hero 6 that doesn't included them.
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I don't see it as a bad thing to want more fairy tales from Disney, considering the majority of their best and/or well-known films are fairy tales. Besides, fairy tales are hot right now, and they may not be 5 to 10 years from now.
I don't really know anything about these characters, so I can't say if I'm excited or not. The idea of Disney making a superhero film is bizarre though.
I don't really know anything about these characters, so I can't say if I'm excited or not. The idea of Disney making a superhero film is bizarre though.
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Disney sometimes needs to get out the fairy tale stuff once in a while.Then when people complain they go back to doing it again then people complain again that they don't do anything orginal.Its a cycle that has been happening since Mr.Disney himself was alive.Disney's Divinity wrote:I don't see it as a bad thing to want more fairy tales from Disney, considering the majority of their best and/or well-known films are fairy tales. Besides, fairy tales are hot right now, and they may not be 5 to 10 years from now.
I don't really know anything about these characters, so I can't say if I'm excited or not. The idea of Disney making a superhero film is bizarre though.
With Don Hall making it I have hopes it will be good.And I have hope this movie will be popular in Japan since Japan is always a sucker for Disney movies as the USA.
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Yeah, I'd read somewhere on the internet that those characters would have to be replaced.Sotiris wrote:Doesn't Fox own the theatrical film rights to Silver Samurai and Sunfire through the X-Men universe? I suppose they'll use the new version of Big Hero 6 that doesn't included them.
After reading up on the story and characters, personally I would be very surprised if the WDAS film bears any kind of close resemblance to the comic.
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I totally agree with you here. I can see the characters having further development and I would be surprised if the characters did remain Japanese...DisneyAnimation88 wrote: After reading up on the story and characters, personally I would be very surprised if the WDAS film bears any kind of close resemblance to the comic.
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Which then begs the question: why do it at all?DisneyAnimation88 wrote:Yeah, I'd read somewhere on the internet that those characters would have to be replaced.
After reading up on the story and characters, personally I would be very surprised if the WDAS film bears any kind of close resemblance to the comic.
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Personally, I'd prefer if they remained Japanese. It would be far more interesting and original that yet another generic Western setting.DisneyDude2010 wrote:I totally agree with you here. I can see the characters having further development and I would be surprised if the characters did remain Japanese.
Yeah, it will probably be very different and definitively toned down and it seems it will be more similar to the new series than the older ones.DisneyAnimation88 wrote:After reading up on the story and characters, personally I would be very surprised if the WDAS film bears any kind of close resemblance to the comic.
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I might be completely wrong in saying that but that is an impression I've gotten, especially since Blue Sky Disney described the WDAS project as "Don Hall's take". Looking at Hall's past writing credits, I think his films are some of the more comedic that WDAS have created but there is always an underlying moral that comes through by the end of the story. I wouldn't be surprised if the setting was changed along with the characters being rewritten, but again I might be completely wrong in saying that. But the comic doesn't exactly scream out "Disney adaptation" so I would be surprised if Hall's take hasn't made some significant changes from the source material for it to satisfy John Lasseter enough to be greenlit for further development.Mooky wrote:Which then begs the question: why do it at all?
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I have no doubt it will have some charm and find its audience, I'm just finding it weird when studios (in general, not just Disney) set out to make an adaptation out of something (book, comics, toys), they strip it off of everything that made it 'tick' and resonate with its original fans, and end up with something sterile and bland, that bears no resemblance to the source material or is related to the said source material in name only. Just reading about BH6 on Marvel.com makes it obvious this will have to be severely toned down to work as a Disney film and they're already several team members short due to them being licensed to Fox (unless this is some loophole Disney is testing; maybe Marvel/Fox contract covers only live-action big screen outings?), which will probably get Marvel die-hard fans pretty pissed off. That's why I say why bother at all, why not just create something 'original', an original Disney superhero team where you don't have to worry about rules and legions of fanboys? Or why doesn't Marvel just make a TV show out of it?
Besides, I was under impression and hoped that even though Disney now owns Marvel, their properties would remain separate. It's nice to have all these characters under the same roof, but this is just a little too close to my comfort zone. I don't want a Disneyized Marvel and I don't want a Marvelized Disney. So, I'm actually with Disney Duster on this one (:|), even though his logic is a bit flawed:
Besides, I was under impression and hoped that even though Disney now owns Marvel, their properties would remain separate. It's nice to have all these characters under the same roof, but this is just a little too close to my comfort zone. I don't want a Disneyized Marvel and I don't want a Marvelized Disney. So, I'm actually with Disney Duster on this one (:|), even though his logic is a bit flawed:
Disney didn't come up with Bambi, Tarzan, Winnie the Pooh, Meet the Robinsons, etc. - they acquired film rights to all of these stories.Disney Duster wrote:Walt Disney made his company come up with original takes on stories that were not owned by other companies.
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Again, I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that there isn't a loophole. From what I've read, if any of these characters are linked to X-Men, they can't be included.Mooky wrote:and they're already several team members short due to them being licensed to Fox (unless this is some loophole Disney is testing; maybe Marvel/Fox contract covers only live-action big screen outings?)
Good question.Mooky wrote:That's why I say why bother at all, why not just create something 'original', an original Disney superhero team where you don't have to worry about rules and legions of fanboys?
I agree. For me, the saving grace of this particular film is that it seems to be so obscure that Disney can make significant changes without upsetting a rabid Marvel fanbase. But a film like this is always going to polarize people and it's inevitable that some aren't going to be happy with it.Mooky wrote:It's nice to have all these characters under the same roof, but this is just a little too close to my comfort zone. I don't want a Disneyized Marvel and I don't want a Marvelized Disney.
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I think that's why they chose Big Hero 6. They can have the best of both worlds. It's based on a Marvel property which will help to market the film and attract the male demographic but it's also very obscure so there aren't any hardcore fans who will be pissed off with possible changes. When the news broke the overwhelming response online was that they never heard of Big Hero 6.Mooky wrote:That's why I say why bother at all, why not just create something 'original', an original Disney superhero team where you don't have to worry about rules and legions of fanboys?
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That would be basically every Disney animated feature prior to 2000.PatrickvD wrote:The Fox and the Hound and One Hundred and One Dalmatians.RyGuy wrote: You can add Mary Poppins to that list.
And I'm sure there are more.
I'll post my thoughts on the news sometime tomorrow, but I will mention now that my feelings are somewhat mixed.
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Personally, I'd like to see something more mature like an animated drama. Everyone's complaining about how animation is not treated equally to live-action but how can it since all animation produced in Hollywood is limited to family entertainment? How can you take real storytelling risks when you are restricted by the family-friendly label?
Why can't Hollywood be more like Japan and truly treat animation as a medium to tell stories of all different sorts of genres? Hollywood animation is in desperate need of some diversity.
Why can't Hollywood be more like Japan and truly treat animation as a medium to tell stories of all different sorts of genres? Hollywood animation is in desperate need of some diversity.
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