The New UK Dumbo question! I know you have it BonusMage!

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:02 am

Ok I know Bonus Mage at least has it, so what I want to know is, does it have the audio commentary and Walt's introductions?

BonusMage · Post by **BonusMage** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:09 am

Ok, I've checked and searched the DVD, there isn't a commentary and after watching a few shorts and the beginning of the 'Celebrating Dumbo' Documentary, there hasn't been any Walt Introductions.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:27 am

I though as much, in that case the retailers have incorrect information on their sites from the incorrect press release that was issued. Also this "new" DVD is identical in terms of content to the last Dumbo DVD.

In that case I'll be ordering the R1.

BonusMage · Post by **BonusMage** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:26 am

I've emailed Disney about it, hoping for reply soon.

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:47 am

Let's wait untill Disney comes out with a REAL special edition

Iago · Post by **Iago** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:38 pm

Hows the video and audio quality, and the menu/packaging design compared to the old release?

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:20 am

I've just thought! Does the new Dumbo DVD still have the Dumbo II sneak peek?

DLRP Magic! · Post by **DLRP Magic!** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:04 pm

ichabod wrote:I've just thought! Does the new Dumbo DVD still have the Dumbo II sneak peek?

No. The sneak peeks are for Bambi and The Incredibles, among others which I've forgotten...

Iago wrote:Hows the video and audio quality, and the menu/packaging design compared to the old release?

Video and audio aren't too bad. I didn't have the previous release so I can't compare, but I doubt they've changed it.

The menus are pretty basic-looking. The main menu has a cheap-looking 2D Dumbo flying around outside a CGI circus environment, with the options in the circus-style font. You can tell they haven't updated it at all because they still have a "sneak peeks" menu option which UK Disney DVDs never have anymore.

Packaging is just like your normal average Disney DVD. The only insert is the same Disney DVD leaflet that was in the Bambi DVD.

So overall it's probably worse than the old release since that one would have had a chapter insert, wouldn't it?

Unless you're a huge fan of those blue "G" ratings, of course...

Disney-Fan · Post by **Disney-Fan** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:42 am

Meh, I'm in no hurry. I'll just be getting a better edition some other time.

marlan · Post by **marlan** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:06 am

DLRP Magic! wrote: Video and audio aren't too bad. I didn't have the previous release so I can't compare, but I doubt they've changed it.

Is the transfer still framed too tightly? See these frames where (in my opinion) one should see more of the feet of the pink elephants... If your TV set has some overscan, you lose even more of the picture.

These screen captures come from the PAL version (R2). If the new version is framed more appropriately, I'll buy it right away!

EDIT: Also the bit transfer rate seems low:

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:52 am

The new DVD is identical to the last, it has not received a new restoration and is the same transfer. I think we will have to wait for a new edition of the DVD, a 2 disc SE should hopefully be on the horizon, I doubt we will see a better transfer until then!

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:13 am

Then if theres no difference? Why was it re-released again?

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:22 am

*Andy* wrote:Then if theres no difference? Why was it re-released again?

Dumbo went out of print along with Alice in Wonderland and Mary Poppins in 2003. As those films got a re-release, I think Dumbo may have been on the boards for a better edition, so it went out of print then. However, the golden company that is BVHE UK had little time for making better releases, even though they could have added extra bonus that other countries had already recieved. So, we just get a re-release of an already inferior disc.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:52 am

Wonderlicious wrote:Dumbo went out of print along with Alice in Wonderland and Mary Poppins in 2003. As those films got a re-release, I think Dumbo may have been on the boards for a better edition, so it went out of print then. However, the golden company that is BVHE UK had little time for making better releases, even though they could have added extra bonus that other countries had already recieved. So, we just get a re-release of an already inferior disc.

To be honest, I believe there may have been a genuine slip up with the Dumbo rerelease. It's hard to believe I know, but the original press release issued in February listed the audio commentary, galleries and Walt's TV introductions. If you notice most online retailers are still listing these features! But a the 11th hour a replacement press release was sent out! This omitted the added stuff and was a list of what was on the actual new release.

Could they have intended to add these features and accidentally used the master for the old disc or something along those lines? It's hard to believe I know, but it wouldn't be the first BVHE UK cock up!

BonusMage · Post by **BonusMage** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:40 pm

ichabod wrote:To be honest, I believe there may have been a genuine slip up with the Dumbo rerelease.

Didn't I post my reply from Disney??

I emailed them about the missing things and how they are listed on their site and press release.

I am so sorry we were unaware of this error on the site. This will now be rectified. Unfortunately these two items were dropped prior to the release but the print work had already gone on the site. The wrap was made later and therefore has the correct bonus listing on it.

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:48 pm

BonusMage wrote: Didn't I post my reply from Disney??
I emailed them about the missing things and how they are listed on their site and press release.

You actually got a reply from BVHE UK?!

Sorry, but I need to know the exact e-mail you adressed them. I really need to know.

BonusMage · Post by **BonusMage** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:40 pm

Wonderlicious wrote:You actually got a reply from BVHE UK?!
Sorry, but I need to know the exact e-mail you adressed them. I really need to know.

Er... it might not of been directly from BVHE, I just emailed [email protected]

marlan · Post by **marlan** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:29 am

Today, I went to the Finnish Film Archive to see Dumbo that was screened there. It was a fairly good print, probably from a theatrical re-release from the early 1980s, with English audio and Finnish & Swedish subtitles. Colours were slightly faded.

I wanted to see how the movie is framed when it is shown in a movie theatre, and compare it with my very own eyes to the screenshots I posted last April (above) from the Scandinavian DVD (R2).

I really have to say that it was an altogether different movie experience compared to the DVD version! Every frame on the DVD is missing about 1/5 of the image because it is zoomed in too much. The framing of those 2 screen captures above was different (wider) and the Pink Elephants' Dance was not ruined, to say the least, in theatre. (Of course, the projectionist is a professional.)

I do hope that a new, appropriately framed release of Dumbo will be prepared a.s.a.p. I simply don't want to own the present version.

ichabod · Post by **ichabod** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:09 am

Don't ask me how I found this, and if you do ask I won't tell you anyway!

Let's just say it's miraculous what people do when they're bored.

For all the owners of the Dumbo UK 2005 release DVD.

Go to the bonus features menu

select the Celebrating Dumbo featurette

When it's playing if you have the ability to change the title number via your remote control (probably by bringing up the menu) change the 7 to 22.

If you do you'll find something that isn't listed on the back of the box, and isn't accesible from any menu screen.

Don't get too excited though!

I

waltmad · Post by **waltmad** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:36 am

firstly, how did you find it, i HAD to ask as it was forbidden, secondly, let me be the 1st to not have that years copy & ask, WHAT IS IT.

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