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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:30 am 
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Republican North Carolina state legislators have proposed allowing an official state religion in a measure that would declare the state exempt from the Constitution and court rulings.

The bill, filed Monday by two GOP lawmakers from Rowan County and backed by nine other Republicans, says each state "is sovereign" and courts cannot block a state "from making laws respecting an establishment of religion." The legislation was filed in response to a lawsuit to stop county commissioners in Rowan County from opening meetings with a Christian prayer, wral.com reported.

The religion bill comes as some Republican-led states seek to separate themselves from the federal government, primarily on the issues of guns and Obamacare. This includes a proposal in Mississippi to establish a state board with the power to nullify federal laws.

The North Carolina bill's main sponsors, state Reps. Carl Ford (R-China Grove) and Harry Warren (R-Salisbury), could not be reached for comment on Tuesday, The Salisbury Post reported. Co-sponsors include House Majority Leader Edgar Starnes (R-Hickory). Another is state Rep. Larry Pittman (R-Concord), who in February introduced a state constitutional amendment that would allow for carrying concealed weapons to fight federal "tyranny."

The bill says the First Amendment only applies to the federal government and does not stop state governments, local governments and school districts from adopting measures that defy the Constitution. The legislation also says that the Tenth Amendment, which says powers not reserved for the federal government belong to the states, prohibits court rulings that would seek to apply the First Amendment to state and local officials.

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SECTION 1. The North Carolina General Assembly asserts that the Constitution of the United States of America does not prohibit states or their subsidiaries from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

SECTION 2. The North Carolina General Assembly does not recognize federal court rulings which prohibit and otherwise regulate the State of North Carolina, its public schools, or any political subdivisions of the State from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

The North Carolina state constitution disqualifies those who do not believe in God from public office. The provision has been unenforcible since the 1961 Supreme Court decision in Torcaso v. Watkins, which prohibited such bans.

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The bold is mine. That last part makes me go :? They want to use the Constitution as justification for not following the Constitution... :?:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:51 am 
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*reads the fucking article.*

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The bold is mine. That last part makes me go :? They want to use the Constitution as justification for not following the Constitution... :?:

This is the fucking GOP where talking about here. When have they ever made any fucking sense?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:17 am 
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150 years later and the South is still whining about not winning the Civil War. Gotta loves these "patriots" who want nothing to do with America when it fits their own convienience.

I doubt these politicians have any clue what a theocracy means or how it's blantantly undemocratic either.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:20 pm 
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150 years later and the South is still whining about not winning the Civil War. Gotta loves these "patriots" who want nothing to do with America when it fits their own convenience.

I doubt these politicians have any clue what a theocracy means or how it's blatantly undemocratic either.


These are the same people that made outcry and paranoia fear of the freakin sharia laws being implicated in this country.

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I think you mean implemented.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:36 pm 
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I think you mean implemented.

yes. thank you lol.

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They want to use the Constitution as justification for not following the Constitution... :?:


I count myself as a very religious individual, but even I am dumbfounded by this. The First Amendment is there for a reason. On the religious side of it, any one who knows the story of how the Bible came to be, all the deaths in England and the rest of Europe over freedom of religion and letting the masses read the Bible, and the political fights between various Popes and Kings, would know why our Founding Fathers gave us freedom of religion, which sadly also means freedom from religion for those who wish that path. It is there to protect all of us, regardless of beliefs.

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