thedisneyspirit wrote:Surprised you all like MCU Wanda, considering how you guys go on and on about how you're hardcore comics Marvel fans, and resent the X -Men movies for being so incorrect, yet applaud Wanda, who's so different from her comics incarnation...Like whoah. She's not Jewish or Roma, she doesn't have depression, she doesn't have the same family, she was retconned into being a Neo-Nazi (and considering she's the daughter of Holocaust survivors in the comics, that's incredibly offensive), fuck she doesn't even have the same powers...But that's all good???
I guess as long as the MCU/the Mouse does changes, that's a good thing.
I actually am a hardcore Marvel comic fan (or was anyway since I haven't cared much for the direction of the comics in the past few years), but MCU Wanda really isn't that far off from the comic incarnation. You have to keep in mind that the comic version has been changed so many times over the decades and used and abused by so many writers that most Wanda fans wanted a fresh start with her. Her powers function differently in the movies (more like Jean Grey's, which probably indicates a bias on my part for MCU Wanda) but her powers in the comics are constantly redefined and to this day, nobody really understands how they work.
Her Magneto parentage was just retconned out of existence but even that wasn't that bothersome to me because Magneto wasn't her father originally. In fact, the first parentage retcon didn't feature him. They had to retcon the retcon to make him her father. Wanda's Jewish heritage comes from Magneto and frankly it's something that has never been explored in the comics either, nor has it ever seemed important to her. Magneto didn't raise her and on top of that, Jewish ancestry is inherited matrilineally so it wouldn't really factor into her backstory. The Roma backstory I'll give you has basically been ignored but I didn't except to see that on the big screen anyway. It's something the TV series could explore.
I wouldn't call her a Neo-Nazi either. HYDRA might be Nazis but I wouldn't expect a couple of young people from a war-torn Eastern European country to be aware of that when they signed up to work with Baron Von Strucker. He's one of Magneto's archenemies in the comics and he has twin children, Fenris, who Wanda and Pietro sort of serve as spiritual surrogates for in the MCU. On top of that, it's been theorized that he was responsible for giving Polaris (another daughter of Magneto) her powers in an attempt to co-opt her and essentially use Magneto's own daughter against him so the precedent is already there. Captain America being turned into an actual Nazi, on the other hand, is a real issue.
As for having depression, the comic version has never had depression until her character was mishandled and turned into a plot device. Something that put the character in Limbo for around a decade and Wanda fans have hated that treatment of her. It's only been the past few years that she's really overcome a decade's worth of character assassination. The original character was never depressive, not even after her "children" turned out to be fake, another story that nobody cared for and basically set the stage for writers to depict her as insane and unstable.
Sotiris wrote:My issues with the X-Men films have more to do with inconsistencies, retcons, and plotholes than just not being comic-accurate. I did enjoy some of them (though the upcoming Dark Phoenix looks awful).
Even the MCU isn't very comic accurate but it takes the general themes and integrity of the characters and retains that. The X-Men characters have little in common with the originals except Wolverine, which is half of the problem since the entire franchise basically hinges on him. Dark Phoenix looks terrible as well. Still hoping it gets canned or released on a streaming service instead.
