Percy Jackson and the Olympians (TV Series)

rodrigo_ca · Post by **rodrigo_ca** » Tue May 10, 2022 8:44 pm

I don't mind it as long as the best actor for the job gets it but I'm mostly entertained at Rick Riordan choosing the worst possible takes to defend her casting and the ever morally superior Percy Jackson fans going out of their way to have her social media accounts taken down (I think she was banned from TikTok twice now). Guess he now has the perfect excuse once the show doesn't take off as expected

estefan · Post by **estefan** » Tue May 10, 2022 8:52 pm

Sotiris wrote:If a character is white, then their race is never important regardless of their personality or the story (unless, of course, they're depicted as a racist or a white supremacist), so that they can be race-bent at will. If a character is of color, then their race is always important regardless their personality or the story, so that they can never be race-bent.

That's all true. "White" is often the default setting, especially if the author is also white. But if a character is made a different race, then that does often factor into their life. It's also controversial to change a POC's race to white in a movie, due to how many less parts exist for actors who aren't white. As a white person, I see nothing wrong with a white fictional character having their race changed in other media. There is no shortage of roles for white actors in films and television shows.

I've seen people mention Annabeth having grey eyes in the books and how the series might not do that. Which makes me think of how they initially tried giving Daniel Radcliffe green contact lenses to play Harry Potter, because Harry is very specifically described as having green eyes in the books. However, he had an allergic reaction and so they immediately got rid of those and they stuck with Radcliffe's natural eye colour. Similarly, Hermione is described as having buck teeth in the books. They shot a few scenes with Emma Watson having false teeth, but it looked off and she had trouble saying her lines through them. So those were also discarded, although you can still see them in the last scene (which was one of the first to be filmed) with Watson having to ADR her lines. The HP fans didn't seem to mind these alterations too much.

There was a different sort of extreme reaction to The Hunger Games. There were readers who didn't like that a black actress was cast to play Rue...even though the books specifically describe Rue and the other people in her district as having dark skin. The book fans seemed to be less upset at Jennifer Lawrence's casting as Katniss, though, despite Katniss having olive skin in the books.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Tue May 10, 2022 9:11 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:And it goes to a bigger question about why studios don't create original product or choose original stories that feature Black characters rather than "racebending" characters in remakes or new adaptations anyway?

Because they want the brand recognition and built-in audience that comes with pre-existing IP. It's ironic though that they alienate a good chunk of that audience by usually changing the race or gender of characters from those properties.

Disney's Divinity wrote:FWIW, the main guy doesn't exactly look how I envisioned Percy either, tbh.

Maybe that's because Percy is a brunet in the books while the actor they picked is blond. There was a small controversy about that, too.

rodrigo_ca wrote:Percy Jackson fans going out of their way to have her social media accounts taken down (I think she was banned from TikTok twice now).

How? Did they make false reports on her account en masse? Shouldn't there be a system in place to prevent such abuse? In any case, I'm sure her account will be reinstated sooner rather than later. Needless to say, these online harassment practices are abhorrent and it's sad that people resort to such things. Don't they understand that the actors taking these roles are not at fault? The best way to make your voice heard in these cases is simply to not consume the product in question. Nothing else works.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Tue May 10, 2022 9:16 pm

I didn't have any reaction to Rue being Black either. But I thought she was in the book anyway?

Well, that sucks if Annabeth won't have grey eyes... That actually bothers me unlike the racebend.

Because her grey eyes were supposed to be the same as her mother Athena's, I thought?

It's not simply changing a POC into a White character that never happens... A character of color is never racebent into a different non-White race either--a Black character being Latina in a different adaptation, or a Latina character being Asian in a different adaptation. It's clearly one standard for White characters versus another standard for all others. But, like I said at the end of the last page, this one doesn't bother me as much as a character like Snow White that is literally named for their appearance. If they were determined to racebend, an Asian actress could've fit that description.

And that's another thing--they were determined from the outset to racebend, which means they didn't pick actors based on talent alone? Everyone aside from the one race they wanted wouldn't have been looked at at all (and not just White actors--if they decided the character would be Latina on a whim, no Black actresses or Asian actresses were considered either). And I question that even being strict to one race that they picked the most talented people among those actors--Halle Bailey doesn't seem like an especially great actress on black-ish so much as she was probably recommended by Beyonce who's been working with Disney, and having seen WSS, I already know Rachel Zegler isn't that great of an actress and she wasn't nominated at the Oscars like most of the rest from that film for that reason. (The White actresses they got for the princesses in Maleficent, Cinderella, and Alice in Wonderland were weak, too, though, to be fair.

)In Mulan's case (where the character was always a POC), the actress was so bad they had to do re-shoots to fix her scenes...

Sotiris wrote:Because they want the brand recognition and built-in audience that comes with pre-existing IP.

To me, it's an example of their cowardice. They don't want to actually risk anything by going with original product, they want to pat themselves on the back for diversity by putting them in remakes that will be gone in 10 years while the still-White originals remain; an original character with a diverse cast actually will last and have enduring impact because of it.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Tue May 10, 2022 9:32 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:It's not simply changing a POC into a White character that never happens... A character of color is never racebent into a different non-White race either--a Black character being Latina in a different adaptation, or a Latina character being Asian in a different adaptation. It's clearly one standard for White characters versus another standard for all others.

Good point.

Disney's Divinity wrote:And that's another thing--they were determined from the outset to racebend, which means they didn't pick actors based on talent alone? Everyone aside from the one race they wanted wouldn't have been looked at all (and not just White actors--if they decided the character would be Latina on a whim, no Black actresses or Asian actresses were considered either).

That's true. Studios no longer practice colorblind casting; they practice "color-conscious" casting which means reserving characters for specific races. Add that to the quotas and the mandates the studios have imposed, and the playing field is never leveled in order for the most talented or suitable actor to get the part.

Patricier21 · Post by **Patricier21** » Wed May 11, 2022 12:34 am

Sotiris wrote:It's interesting the author chose to blame the fans for their reaction to race-bended casting instead of taking responsibility for his part. He could have included characters of color in his Percy Jackson series, but he didn't. He could have left open or ambiguous the race and skin color of his characters, but he didn't. Now, he attacks the fans for pointing out the discrepancy between the character's description and the casting? He has only himself to blame for this, especially since he spent years criticizing the movies for aging up his characters. How is a character's age a more important physical trait than their race? Why does a character's age absolutely needs to be accurate to the book, but not their skin color? It seems completely arbitrary and makes him look like a hypocrite.

I’m not at all surprised by this, especially with you saying that he is a hypocrite which I truly know that he is. He claims that he doesn’t want to see the movies because “it will change how he views his characters“ let alone with all the changes to the movies which he already knows about, And yet as you can see on the lightning thief Blu-ray and DVD extras, he goes and visits the Set clearly seeing how the characters Etc. are going to be with all the changes, And even saying how “I can’t imagine a better Director than Chris Columbus”.

Why on earth would he do all of that, completely contradicting what he has stated over the years? You can also even tell in the tone that he has written that comment about the fans reaction to Annabeth‘s casting that he is trying to defend himself for his contradictions and Ignorance, much more obviously than J. K. Rowling when she does a similar thing. I also Believe that he is quite naïve or even ignorant towards the fact that he has ADHD well if you read the Percy Jackson books you can tell that it is written by someone who has ADHD per the style pacing repetitiveness and iffy material that exists throughout, which is Why I like the movies even with their flaws way better than the books for least they actually feel grounded and focussed and ironically without feeling like someone who has ADHD actually better portraying ADHD however subtly in Lightning thief’s movie especially actually having characters like Percy and Annabeth actually feel like they have ADHD which he never really portrayed directly in the books despite the books overall writing style like I just said

blackcauldron85 · Post by **blackcauldron85** » Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:26 am

‘Percy Jackson’ Disney+ Series Adds Five to Cast, Including Megan Mullally and Jason Mantzoukas
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/percy- ... 1235283550

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:55 am

Percy Jackson’ Disney+ Series Adds Three to Cast
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/percy- ... 235299080/

Patricier21 · Post by **Patricier21** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:46 am

More Racial bending. Starting to regret not supporting the movies now?

NeoSuperBlissey · Post by **NeoSuperBlissey** » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:32 pm

Variety is reporting three new cast members have been added to the Percy Jackson series.

And if you're a WWE fan, you just might recognize one of them.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/percy- ... 1235402276

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:37 pm

Teaser trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3gF6Duh_z0

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:44 pm

Another reason not to watch this show.

Lin-Manuel Miranda To Play Hermes In ‘Percy Jackson & The Olympians’ Disney+ Series
https://deadline.com/2022/11/lin-manuel ... 235164943/

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:09 pm

Sotiris wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:44 pm Another reason not to watch this show.

Lin-Manuel Miranda To Play Hermes In ‘Percy Jackson & The Olympians’ Disney+ Series
https://deadline.com/2022/11/lin-manuel ... 235164943/

Haha, yeah this show was a pass for me already, but now it’s a hard pass.

I can’t believe how they continue to cast this guy and expect us to be in awe. I can live with his writing, but in front of the camera he is guaranteed cringe.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:10 pm

PatrickvD wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:09 pmHaha, yeah this show was a pass for me already, but now it’s a hard pass. I can’t believe how they continue to cast this guy and expect us to be in awe. I can live with his writing, but in front of the camera he is guaranteed cringe.

Because Hollywood worships the ground he walks on, that's why. And of course he's too narcissistic to realize his limitations. He's truly dreadful as an actor. Utterly unwatchable. He ruined Mary Poppins Returns and His Dark Materials for me. He's also not a good singer (or rapper

) for that matter. While not remarkable, at least he's competent as a songwriter and a director.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:49 pm

New articles.

‘Percy Jackson’ Disney+ Series Adds Jay Duplass, Timothy Omundson to Cast
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/percy- ... 235437039/

‘Percy Jackson’ Strikes Back: How Rick Riordan Defied Fox’s Failed Movies, Fought Racist Trolls and Finally Returned to Hollywood for Disney+ Series
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/percy- ... 235759319/

Original ‘Percy Jackson’ Star Logan Lerman Surprises New Disney+ Cast With Message of Support: ‘You Have a Hit Show on Your Hands’
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/logan- ... 235843885/

How ‘Percy Jackson’ Updated the Book’s Medusa Storyline to Get Closer to the Original Myth: ‘She Was a Victim of Rape’
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/percy- ... 235850337/

‘Percy Jackson’ Finale: EPs Talk Honoring Lance Reddick’s Zeus, Romance With Annabeth and the ‘Still Ongoing’ Prophecy
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/percy- ... 235890443/

Rick Riordan on Adapting ‘Percy Jackson’ for TV: “We Dove in With Both Feet”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235508384/

‘Percy Jackson’ Team Talk Working With Lin-Manuel Miranda, Remember Lance Reddick
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235754269/

‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’ Team on Bringing Rick Riordan’s Books to TV
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235766271/

Inside Camp Half-Blood: ‘Percy Jackson’ VFX, Production Heads on Building the Demigod’s World
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235768875/

‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’ Ends Its First Season With the Promise of More
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv ... 235810713/

Will the Disney+ ‘Percy Jackson’ Series Incorporate the New Books? Author Rick Riordan Weighs In
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-t ... interview/

‘Percy Jackson’ Creator Rick Riordan Hopes the TV Series Will ‘Be the Antidote’ to the Movies: ‘I Think You Can Rest Easy’
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-t ... rest-easy/

‘Percy Jackson’ Author Says He Made Sure the New Series Cast Felt ‘Valued and Safe’: It’s ‘A Lot of Pressure to Put on a 12-Year-Old’
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-t ... interview/

‘Percy Jackson’ EPs Rick and Becky Riordan Pinpoint the Exact Moment They Knew Disney+ TV Adaptation Got It Right
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-s ... -reaction/

‘Percy Jackson’ Star Leah Sava Jeffries Jokes the ‘Least Challenging’ Part of Annabeth Was Acting Annoyed With Walker Scobell
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-s ... y-dynamic/

‘Percy Jackson’ EPs Explain the ‘Tonal’ Shifts They Had to Make for TV – Including Gabe’s More ‘Monstrous’ Side
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-s ... ifts-gabe/

‘Percy Jackson’ Star Walker Scobell Reflects on Working With Lance Reddick: ‘Like Zeus, His Presence Demands Respect’
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-l ... interview/

‘Percy Jackson’: Charlie Bushnell Is ‘Excited’ for a Proper Confrontation Between Luke and Annabeth After Finale Reveal
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-f ... interview/

‘Percy Jackson’ Showrunner Breaks Down ‘Critical’ Finale Scenes, Talks Season 2 Chances
https://www.thewrap.com/percy-jackson-e ... 2-chances/

Percy Jackson and the Olympians introduces a new generation of demigods
https://ew.com/tv/percy-jackson-and-the ... n-preview/

Inside the Herculean task of perfecting Percy Jackson and the Olympians
https://ew.com/percy-jackson-and-the-ol ... es-8416350

How the new Percy Jackson brings Camp Half-Blood and Capture the Flag to screen
https://ew.com/how-percy-jackson-brings ... en-8416499

Percy Jackson and the Olympians season 1 drops 'small seeds of future situations'
https://ew.com/percy-jackson-and-the-ol ... gs-8416491

Lin-Manuel Miranda teases Percy Jackson role: 'Such a fun world to live in'
https://ew.com/lin-manuel-miranda-tease ... in-8426860

‘Percy Jackson & The Olympians’ Creator Rick Riordan Makes Surprise Appearance At NYCC Panel & Fans Get Preview Of Premiere Episode
https://deadline.com/2023/10/percy-jack ... 235574301/

‘Percy Jackson’ EPs & Stars Talk Revisiting ‘The Lightning Thief’ & Looking Ahead To Potential Season 2 (And Beyond)
https://deadline.com/2023/12/percy-jack ... 235671345/

‘Percy Jackson And The Olympians’ Trio Break Down Filming Season 1 Finale, Fan Edits & Hopes For Exploring ‘Sea Of Monsters’
https://deadline.com/2024/01/percy-jack ... 235808969/

‘Percy Jackson And The Olympians’ Actor Charlie Bushnell Discusses Luke’s Betrayal In Season 1 Finale
https://deadline.com/2024/01/percy-jack ... 235808978/

'Percy Jackson’: Jessica Parker Kennedy Shares Challenges of Playing Medusa
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-seri ... -comments/

'Percy Jackson and the Olympians' Creatives Can't Wait for Viewers to See These Two Characters
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-and- ... -comments/

'Percy Jackson and the Olympians' Creatives on Benefits of Filming in the Volume
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-and- ... -comments/

How 'Percy Jackson and the Olympians' Executive Producers Dealt With Pressure of Adaptation
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-and- ... -comments/

How 'Percy Jackson & the Olympians' VFX Supervisors Created the Underworld
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-and- ... -comments/

‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’ Proves ILM’s Volume Isn’t Just for Galaxies Far, Far Away
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-and- ... ns-volume/

How ‘Percy Jackson’ Brought Hades’ Giant Guard Dog to Life
https://collider.com/percy-jackson-series-cerberus/

Percy Jackson and the Olympians EP on Changing Stepdad Gabe for the Disney+ Series: ‘There Was a Tonal Shift’
https://tvline.com/interviews/percy-jac ... 235100836/

Percy Jackson and the Olympians Star Walker Scobell on the Disney+ Series: ‘I Don’t Want to Let Anyone Down’
https://tvline.com/interviews/percy-jac ... 235101310/

Percy Jackson’s Toby Stephens Talks Poseidon’s Pivotal Debut, Adapting the ‘Morally, Pretty Feckless’ Greek Gods
https://tvline.com/previews/percy-jacks ... 235137571/

Percy Jackson’s Toby Stephens Explains Why That Poseidon Flashback Gives ‘Very Real Context’ to the Titular Hero
https://tvline.com/interviews/percy-jac ... 235138337/

Is Percy Jackson and the Olympians Renewed for Season 2 on Disney+?
https://tvline.com/news/percy-jackson-a ... 235137509/

Percy Jackson and the Olympians Finale: Young Demigod Sasses His Family, and a Prophecy Comes True
https://tvline.com/recaps/percy-jackson ... 235140558/

Percy Jackson EP Remembers the Late Lance Reddick: ‘He Was an Exceptional Human Being’
https://tvline.com/interviews/percy-jac ... 235140668/

“Percy Jackson And The Olympians” Rule Over New York Comic Con
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... comic-con/

Talking All Things Percy: An Interview with Rick and Becky Riordan
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... y-riordan/

Interview: “Percy Jackson and the Olympians” Executive Producers Jonathan Steinberg and Dan Shotz Discuss New Disney+ Adaptation
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... daptation/

Interview: Dior Goodjohn on Fighting Percy Jackson and Bringing the Daughter of Ares to Life
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... interview/

Interview: “Percy Jackson and the Olympians” Star Virginia Kull on Bringing the Realism of Parenthood to a Fantasy World
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney- ... y-jackson/

‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’: A Kid Demigod Takes the LED Stage
https://www.awn.com/vfxworld/percy-jack ... -led-stage

Fairview's Walker Scobell talks about 'Percy Jackson' on Disney+, his career, family at home
https://www.goerie.com/story/entertainm ... 741504007/

Leah Jeffries Talks 'Percy Jackson & The Olympians', Natural Hair, And Staying True To One's Self In Hollywood
https://www.essence.com/entertainment/l ... -the-mold/

Inside the Quest to Adapt ‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’ for Disney+
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/inside ... or-disney/

Meet the Young Stars of ‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’ on Disney+
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/meet-t ... on-disney/

‘Percy Jackson And The Olympians’ Makes Its New York Comic-Con Debut With A Surprise Appearance From Rick And Rebecca Riordan
https://press.disneyplus.com/news/disne ... appearance

D23 Exclusive Q&A: Percy Jackson Author Rick Riordan
https://d23.com/d23-exclusive-qa-percy- ... k-riordan/

Meet the Characters of Percy Jackson and the Olympians
https://d23.com/meet-the-characters-of- ... olympians/

Electrifying Premiere Photos from Percy Jackson and the Olympians
https://d23.com/electrifying-premiere-p ... olympians/

Percy Jackson and the Olympians and A Look Back & A Look Ahead
https://d23.com/podcast/d23-inside-disney-episode-205/

Percy Jackson and the Olympians Documentary Special to Debut January 30 on Disney+
https://d23.com/percy-jackson-and-the-o ... on-disney/

PatchofBlue · Post by **PatchofBlue** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:58 pm

https://twitter.com/PercySeries/status/ ... 8735800321

New teaser poster. Still no release date.

The_Iceflash · Post by **The_Iceflash** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:10 pm

estefan wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 2:40 pm Was the Annabeth character defined by her whiteness in the books? Was her being white significant in shaping her personality?

Well, how do you define “whiteness”?

Patricier21 · Post by **Patricier21** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:30 pm

The_Iceflash wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:10 pm
estefan wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 2:40 pm Was the Annabeth character defined by her whiteness in the books? Was her being white significant in shaping her personality?
Well, how do you define “whiteness”?

To answer both questions, yes her “whiteness” is important because it’s to break the “blonde=dumb“ Stereotype, which is one of the main points of her overall character. Even in the first lightning thief movie, despite her not being blonde, she was able to still more accurately portray that going against stereotype

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:22 pm

Character posters:
https://twitter.com/PercySeries/status/ ... 2613264384
https://twitter.com/PercySeries/status/ ... 6279237633
https://twitter.com/PercySeries/status/ ... 0217689088

PatchofBlue · Post by **PatchofBlue** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:54 pm

Exciting! I wonder if these means we'll get a proper trailer soon.

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