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Patricier21 wrote:Doesn’t worldwide certainly matter a lot more for big Blockbusters like this, Especially Since the fourth one broke opening records Internationally,let alone is what truly Had it make over $1 billion
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I'm still willing to bet that they'd make more with Depp attached than not, because the Sparrow character pretty much is the brand. The rest of the cast can be replaced because they're just the straight men that character plays off. The series was never going to survive without that character / actor.

Besides, the franchise wasn't going to keep going forever anyway.... This isn't an argument for a continuation for 10 more movies. The sixth one was planned to be the last from the outset. I was looking forward to that proper send-off with the return of Knightley and Bloom. So I'm not sure what you're even arguing for except that someone who was lied about should continue to be punished for those lies and the fans of that series likewise? They could easily save the flop reboot for a year or two after the sixth film. I'm sure that was originally the plan anyway.
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This is just sad.

Johnny Depp Says He'll Perform Jack Sparrow at 'Kids' Birthday Parties at This Point'
https://www.newsweek.com/johnny-depp-ja ... al-1631841

Johnny Depp Says Nobody Can Take Captain Jack Sparrow Away From Him
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It's a shame that the campaign to restore someone whose name has been smeared with lies is never as important to people as it is to remove someone during the accusations phase. Both situations should have equal fervor if justice is the true motive behind it all. I know Disney never cares about right or wrong anyway, it's more about the public driving them and the interest just isn't there when it comes to justice for someone who was lied about. Disney should be ashamed for furthering Heard's abuse this way by refusing to reverse course.
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No big studio will hire him as long as he can be can be called "wife beater". Would you like your movie being run in the press as "Pirates of the Caribbean, starring wife beater Johnny Depp"? That lawsuit against The Sun was a completely misguided decision that backfired completely and no one can do anything about it now. He should have just gone away for a while instead of dragging this forever and forever and losing any goodwill he could potentially find if he had let the public forget all about it.
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I believe that description was being used in regards to footage we later learned was him defending himself from Heard once the whole thing came out, right? That would be like if someone who shot a person who was trying to murder them in self-defense was then labeled a “Murderer” themselves in the press. Yes, it would technically be true since they did kill someone (which is how the media won the case), but it’s not how that word is supposed to be used and a blatant smear by the press.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:I believe that description was being used in regards to footage we later learned was him defending himself from Heard once the whole thing came out, right? That would be like if someone who shot a person who was trying to murder them in self-defense was then labeled a “Murderer” themselves in the press. Yes, it would technically be true since they did kill someone (which is how the media won the case), but it’s not how that word is supposed to be used and a blatant smear by the press.
I don't remember in what context The Sun used that description but the verdict was based on at least 14 occasions where he was accused and wasn't able to prove he wasn't violent towards Amber Heard. Completely misguided lawsuit that made more than damage than any good that could have come out of it.
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Should Johnny Depp Be Allowed To Return To Pirates Of The Caribbean? His Co-Star Speaks Out
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Perhaps the attempted reboot will flop so bad, they'll consider a proper sequel with Depp returned to PotC afterwards.
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Here is some potentially and hopefully not happening bad news :(:(:(:(:(:(:(. But On a happy interesting note, Yes it was I who submitted the topic in or rather he chose to read my submission! :-)
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This is the report Patricier's comment refers to.

Jack Sparrow Project In Development Without Johnny Depp
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Hollywood needs to read the room on Johnny Depp. Nobody believes Amber Heard.

Pirates projects without him will be boycotted. As they should.
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Skyler Shuler wrote:So, we've talked about this multiple times before. About two different Pirates of the Caribbean projects in the works at Disney. One starring Margot Robbie. That one's written by Christina Hodson which is still in development. Then there was the one written by Craig Mazin and Ted Elliott, who's written the other Pirates movies. They were doing a different one about Red rumored to be starring Karen Gillan. What I was told is that particular Pirates project is being developed for Disney+.
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Johnny Depp Pirates of the Caribbean return hopes improve after petition surge
The petition, We want JOHNNY DEPP back as CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW, previously broke 500,000 signatures worldwide, making it one of the most popular forms on Change.org.

In recent days, the petition has broken a new barrier of 700,000 signatures worldwide. The website itself has announced that at 1 million signatures the Depp petition will become "one of the top signed on Change.org!"

The petition is currently addressed to Jerry Bruckheimer, the boss of the Pirates of the Caribbean series. Bruckheimer and Depp are great friends who worked together closely on the five Pirates movies thus far.

The producer was also the creative input behind the series but has most recently noted he "didn't know" what Depp's position in the next movie would be.

Bruckheimer said: "We're working on a draft right now and hopefully we'll get it shortly and give it to Disney and hopefully they'll like it. We don't know. We've been working on it for a little bit... The one we're developing right now, we're not sure quite what Johnny's role is going to be. So, we're going to have to see."

The petition is also addressed to The Walt Disney Company, in a nudge to ask them to reconsider their decision to axe Depp from the film series.
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According to Johnny Depp, he currently has absolutely no interest in being in another Pirates of the Caribbean movie.
Rottenborn also referenced something Depp had said in his deposition, in which he indicated that he would not want to work on “Pirates 6” if it were offered to him.

“The fact is, Mr. Depp, if Disney came to you with $300 million and a million alpacas, nothing on this earth would get you to go back and work with Disney on a ‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ film? Correct?”

Depp answered: “That is true, Mr. Rottenborn.”
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Again, people say that all the time and it’s not like it’s the first time in which something has happened with Disney; Robin Williams as Genie EH? Also Halle Berry originally said she wasn’t going to return a storm for the third X-Men and had issues with Bryan Singer and it was only his departure from the movie that had her stay on but then not only does she return for days of future past but openly praise Bryan Singer at comicon promoting the movie :-)

There also reports earlier on the Disney’s lawyers were apologizing to Depp and if he does come on top of winning the trial then there’s a deep more than decent chance that they’ll do something to apologize to him that might encourage him to come back :-)
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There are no signs Disney has apologized, so I'm not surprised. If he never returns, they might as well give up with this franchise. It has no chance of surviving without Depp, they might as well accept it.
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Just search on YouTube Disney apologizes Johnny Depp To see what I mean; this is not necessarily set in stone like I’ve said :-)
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Regardless of the outcome of the trial, the court of public opinion is that Johnny was done wrong and Amber is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Her career is effectively over as audiences will avoid her, making her box office poison.

I feel bad for Johnny that this whole thing is getting dragged out in court when it becomes more clear by the day that their differences should have been a private matter. Their relationship was toxic and Amber is a psychopath.

Maybe one day there can be another Pirates with Johnny. But for now I hope he can win his reputation back and be given privacy. This media circus is out of control.
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Depp has always been known for being sort of "difficult," as far as getting angry or not showing up to set on time and so on, partly because he does drugs and all that stuff. I'm not saying he's an upstanding guy or anything, but there are a lot of people in Hollywood and in real life on drugs (unbeknownst to their employers) and who are "difficult," but they still go to work every day if they haven't done anything to get fired over and they still date people who are willing to put up with them. *shrug*

Depp was fired over what later turned out to be false allegations of abuse; I don't fault Disney for the decision to pause the films and Depp's employment when the allegations were first made, that was the correct course of action, but once it became known they were false, their decision should have been reversed. They should have apologized and reached out to Depp a long time ago. His comments the other day sound like bluster because Disney never did those things, his "Screw you" to people he thinks don't want him to make it seem like he's unbothered. If they actually reached out to him properly, with time I'm sure he would be open to the idea. Especially if he needs money, which maybe he will with all these legal fees from court cases. :P

It's in Disney's best interests to make that effort. Not only do they have egg on their faces for not having done so period, imo, but, again, the POTC series is going to have little success without Depp involved. Disney obviously has to have already known that, because for years they let other actors like Knightley and Bloom go, but they must've offered Depp more and more to keep him since they know he is the star that lifted this vehicle from the beginning. Even if lightning in a bottle was that easy to re-create, nobody on board for the streaming "remake" or whatever has much star quality, imo....
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