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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:52 am 
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In this bonus feature we hear a small snippet from Scott Weinger's audition tape for Proud of Your Boy and...it's not good. :lol: I think we're all glad Brad Kane did the singing in the film.

It was actually pretty decent for someone untrained. Even Menken admitted that if they had worked with him a little more, he could have done the singing himself. When they sing Proud of Your Boy together at the end, Weigner was much improved with Menken's directions.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:00 pm 
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Well.. he was better than Emma Watson.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:14 pm 
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FUN FACT:
The evil queen artwork on the Snow white Signature edition Blu-ray is a old clip art from the Platinum edition VHS booklet.
Skip to 3:15 in the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Shf2mTm7A


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:35 pm 
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Oh wow, thanks for confirming that! That clipart of the Queen was a hot topic of discussion as to where it debuted. A lot of us recognized it from the Diamond Edition promotion but I don't think anybody realized it was as old as the Platinum Edition.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:54 am 
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Awww that singing was cute.

Glad to know where the evil queen came from! Thanks DisneyBluLife!

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Hey, guys! I have the Aladdin Diamond Edition digital version on my iTunes account, but I now notice it wasn't updated to the new one they released yesterday. Does anyone else have this issue as well?


The only Diamond Edition digital copies that were updated to the new Signature Editions are Beauty And The Beast and The Lion King. All the others have had two versions and you have to buy/redeem the new one to get it, unfortunately. :angry:


Cinderella’s Signature Edition also poured over from the Diamond Edition on iTunes, not Movies Anywhere app. :up:

In fact all Disney digital copies on iTunes automatically update to the latest version released. The difference is that some can be played in the Apple TV app like new releases and some others can only be played in one’s own iTunes library but at least you’re not missing any new bonus feature


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:44 am 
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Stories From Walt’s Office: Designing the Studio (3:12 min.) (Digital Only)
In Walt’s Words: Sleeping Beauty (4:25 min)
Fun Facts Behind Sleeping Beauty (4:39 min)

Running times for the new Sleeping Beauty bonus features, courtesy of Blu-Ray.com forums. Definitely will be passing on this like I did the Diamond Edition. Not even 15 minutes of new bonus material, and if you count only the disc, then there's not even 10 minutes.


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Stories From Walt’s Office: Designing the Studio (3:12 min.) (Digital Only)
In Walt’s Words: Sleeping Beauty (4:25 min)
Fun Facts Behind Sleeping Beauty (4:39 min)

Running times for the new Sleeping Beauty bonus features, courtesy of Blu-Ray.com forums. Definitely will be passing on this like I did the Diamond Edition. Not even 15 minutes of new bonus material, and if you count only the disc, then there's not even 10 minutes.

Disappointing but I'm still getting it for the digital and for completion sake. I'm just not sure I'm gonna pay extra for the digipack.


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farerb wrote:
Disappointing but I'm still getting it for the digital and for completion sake.


Same. I only started buying Blu-rays last year, so I don't have this in HD or digital. Luckily this is one film I didn't sell my DVDs of!

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JeanGreyForever wrote:
Stories From Walt’s Office: Designing the Studio (3:12 min.) (Digital Only)
In Walt’s Words: Sleeping Beauty (4:25 min)
Fun Facts Behind Sleeping Beauty (4:39 min)

Running times for the new Sleeping Beauty bonus features, courtesy of Blu-Ray.com forums. Definitely will be passing on this like I did the Diamond Edition. Not even 15 minutes of new bonus material, and if you count only the disc, then there's not even 10 minutes.

This is par for the course with other Walt-Era Signature Collection supplements, so I'm honestly neither surprised nor disappointed. I don't think any of the new featurettes for a Walt-era film in the Signature Collection runs more than 9 minutes. (Cinderella's feature-length "In Walt's Words" was a fluke given that it was made in 2005 and withheld until now.) And after being spoiled by exhaustive releases on Laserdisc (1997), DVD (2003), and the first Blu-Ray (2008), I can't imagine the company wants to put even more money into yet another home media release for Sleeping Beauty. (The lack of a 4K is also telling.) None of the original cast or crew even show up on the 2014 supplements, all the interviewees were then-current Disney animation folks and Sarah Hyland. Even before the list of supplements for the Signature Collection were announced, it would have been a pipe dream expecting a new interview from Mary Costa, especially as she's mostly retired. Hoping that "In Walt's Words" would be feature-length would have been just as much a pipe dream; my only curiosity is the source of whatever interview Walt gave for it.

Perhaps because of the passage of time now, the best supplement to come from any Signature Collection release was "Aladdin on Aladdin." Not because it's a half-hour (that's still paltry given that the 2004 documentary runs 43 minutes or 106 minutes depending how you view it), but because it took a serious approach to the legacy of the film without pandering to its audience. We are already aware of the making of Aladdin, that's been covered in the 2004 documentary. But 27 years after the release allows for a kind of retrospection that can be further explored beyond a concluding 4-minute chapter of a documentary as was the case in 2004. It makes me wish the other Renaissance films got that treatment, rather than the "Alan Menken and Whoever is Sitting at the Piano with Him" featurettes on Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid, which are enjoyable but still fluff. Hopefully if a 4K Beauty and the Beast ever does make it to physical media, Disney would allow for even newer supplements (a Signature Collection 2.0?) to entice buyers. Then again, the quiet 4K release of The Lion King where all that was added was literally the 4K disc doesn't make me confident.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:57 pm 
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If Beauty and the Beast is ever released on 4K, it'll probably be a reissue of the Signature Collection disc like it was with The Lion King.


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Escapay wrote:
Perhaps because of the passage of time now, the best supplement to come from any Signature Collection release was "Aladdin on Aladdin."

Maybe it is if you mean the only supplement we know for sure was made for the Signature Collection, otherwise the best supplement is easily "In Walt's Words: Envisioning Cinderella". How did you find out that was made in 2005 though? For sure you know this to be fact?

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According to bluray.com, there are German websites that show listings for The Jungle Book and Beauty and the Beast. Both in 4K. The Jungle Book in January 2020 and Beauty and the Beast in March 2020.


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The Jungle Book and Beauty and the Beast. Both in 4K.



The original animated classics or the live-action movies?

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bruno_wbt wrote:
farerb wrote:
The Jungle Book and Beauty and the Beast. Both in 4K.



The original animated classics or the live-action movies?

Animated. But I'm sure the remakes will be released as well.


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farerb wrote:
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farerb wrote:
The Jungle Book and Beauty and the Beast. Both in 4K.



The original animated classics or the live-action movies?

Animated. But I'm sure the remakes will be released as well.


I hope we'll get waves of the Walt-era movies in 4K next year.


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I'm not sure how much I believe that The Jungle Book will get a 4K release. I wonder if people aren't mixing it up with the live-action film which will likely be released alongside the Signature Edition this January. If I'm correct, people mistook Cinderella for getting a 4K release as well and we all know what happened with that.

Anyway, looking forward to BATB, in the very slight chance that it gets a proper restoration.


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JeanGreyForever wrote:
I'm not sure how much I believe that The Jungle Book will get a 4K release. I wonder if people aren't mixing it up with the live-action film which will likely be released alongside the Signature Edition this January. If I'm correct, people mistook Cinderella for getting a 4K release as well and we all know what happened with that.

Anyway, looking forward to BATB, in the very slight chance that it gets a proper restoration.


I have the same thought. That German website could have confused the live action with the animated one and it did wrote that the aspect ratio is 1.85:1, which is the live action's aspect ration. I hope we get more information about US releases when we get closer to the release dates.


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"In Walt's Words: Envisioning Cinderella". How did you find out that was made in 2005 though? For sure you know this to be fact?

When Bambi first hit DVD in Spring 2005, it advertised the "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" as the first in a series and future entries in the Platinum line would utilize the feature. The next two Platinum releases were Cinderella in Fall 2005 and Lady and the Tramp in Spring 2006. However, neither DVD included an "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" viewing option.

We then jump ahead to Bambi hitting Blu-Ray in Spring 2011. Its "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" has been extended with additional interviews, but the main narrative track is the same as in 2005. Its whole presentation has also been given an HD upgrade. There's no mention of it being used on other Diamond Edition titles, but the following year - Spring 2012 - Lady and the Tramp debuts on Blu-Ray with an "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" that largely just plays out as audio commentary, but utilizes syncing to a second screen (be it an iPad or a laptop) for the visual aspect. When Lady and the Tramp returns to Blu-Ray in the Spring 2018, the second-screen feature is no longer applicable, and instead the story meetings is presented as its own feature, complete with occasional HD photos and stills of the speakers.

Finally, we reach Summer 2019, and Cinderella joins the Signature Collection. Rather than bill the feature as "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" as had been done on Bambi and Lady and the Tramp, the feature-length story meetings is called "In Walt's Words," to better tie in to the recurring series from the Signature Collection and featured on entries for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Pinocchio, Bambi, and Lady and the Tramp. The latter two are structured as "In Walt's Words," but are billed instead as "Studio Stories" and "Walt & His Dogs." Peter Pan notably did not include a new "In Walt's Words" based on his 1956 Pete Martin interviews, perhaps because there was already an "In Walt's Words" from 2007 that dramatized his article written for "Brief" magazine and probably covered the same ground as the interviews.

Now, Walt actually does talk about Cinderella in his Pete Martin interviews, you can read some of it in the 1957 book The Story of Walt Disney. So before the disc was released, many of us assumed it would be another 5-minute featurette drawn from those interviews. Thus it seemed rather odd when the disc was actually released an reviews came in that we were getting a full-length "Story Meetings" treatment. But once we began to piece everything together, it became apparent that "In Walt's Words: The Envisioning of Cinderella" is not a newly created piece, but a Platinum extra that has simply not been released until now.

The "In Walt's Words" version of Cinderella opens up with the familiar blue castle logo that was also used on the 2005 Platinum Edition. Likewise, it uses that same restoration. This restoration was also used in 2012 and 2019, but the blue castle logo was replaced with the modern logo in use since 2006. The fact that this supplement retains the pre-2006 logo already dates its origins, why else would they use an outdated logo when most Blu-Ray releases of the films have retroactively changed the blue castle logo to the modern one?

Then, when we compare the voice actors for "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" across the Bambi Platinum, the Lady and the Tramp Diamond, and the Cinderella Signature, we learn they are all the same. They have the same pitch and tone, the same consistent sound, the same cadence. These recording sessions were likely done within relatively close time together. Had Cinderella's "In Walt's Words" actually been newly-made for the Signature Collection, there would be a noticeable change in the voices across 14 years (2005 to 2019), even if they were impersonating Walt and the Nine Old Men. The consistency in the voices draws the conclusion that 2012's Lady and the Tramp story meetings and 2019's Cinderella's In Walt's Words were recorded much earlier than their actual release.

And so, it goes back to Bambi's original Platinum DVD, and the promise that other Platinums would have an "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" feature. It becomes apparent that the next two Platinums in the line - Cinderella in Fall 2005 and Lady and the Tramp in Spring 2006 - were supposed to have "Inside Walt's Story Meetings." For reasons unknown, Disney instead decided not to include them. Then, when it came time to reissue these films on the next format, finally decided to put them out. With Lady and the Tramp, they used the story meetings feature as a way to also promote the Second Screen feature. However, by the time Cinderella hit the Diamond line, Second Screen was now being relegated to stupid story books, so once again, they withheld the bonus feature. It wasn't until 2019 that Disney decided for whatever reason to finally release the supplement, but now retroactively titled "In Walt's Words," and going back to its roots as a visual commentary/story meeting.

I find it hard to believe that for ONE title in the Signature Collection, Disney would go to the expense of making a brand-new feature-length story meeting when they couldn't even be bothered to do that for Pinocchio (instead just giving us one scene in that mode), and all they did for Lady and the Tramp was insert photos of who was speaking and no artwork for its story-meeting feature. The amount of work and care that went into Cinderella's "In Walt's Words" is simply not consistent with virtually everything else that the Signature Collection has offered. So it's a safe bet that this feature was NOT made for the Signature Collection, but merely released after two absences from previous home media sets. And when we trace the history of like-minded bonus features, we can conclude it was originally made in 2005.

Thus, this is why I said that of all the Signature Collection's supplements, "Aladdin on Aladdin" is the best one. "In Walt's Words: The Envisioning of Cinderella" is a great feature. But it's from the Platinum line and was merely unavailable until now. For all the newly-produced material that the Signature Collection has given us, a great deal of it has been fluffy retrospectives and useless Disney Channel trivia. "Aladdin on Aladdin" is entirely different from that, and deserves to be seen as the best feature that the Signature Collection has to offer: a full, half-hour documentary that not only looks back on the film, but on how it's impacted virtually everyone involved in its production.

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Perhaps because of the passage of time now, the best supplement to come from any Signature Collection release was "Aladdin on Aladdin." Not because it's a half-hour (that's still paltry given that the 2004 documentary runs 43 minutes or 106 minutes depending how you view it), but because it took a serious approach to the legacy of the film without pandering to its audience. We are already aware of the making of Aladdin, that's been covered in the 2004 documentary. But 27 years after the release allows for a kind of retrospection that can be further explored beyond a concluding 4-minute chapter of a documentary as was the case in 2004. It makes me wish the other Renaissance films got that treatment, rather than the "Alan Menken and Whoever is Sitting at the Piano with Him" featurettes on Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid, which are enjoyable but still fluff. Hopefully if a 4K Beauty and the Beast ever does make it to physical media, Disney would allow for even newer supplements (a Signature Collection 2.0?) to entice buyers. Then again, the quiet 4K release of The Lion King where all that was added was literally the 4K disc doesn't make me confident.

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Thus, this is why I said that of all the Signature Collection's supplements, "Aladdin on Aladdin" is the best one. "In Walt's Words: The Envisioning of Cinderella" is a great feature. But it's from the Platinum line and was merely unavailable until now. For all the newly-produced material that the Signature Collection has given us, a great deal of it has been fluffy retrospectives and useless Disney Channel trivia. "Aladdin on Aladdin" is entirely different from that, and deserves to be seen as the best feature that the Signature Collection has to offer: a full, half-hour documentary that not only looks back on the film, but on how it's impacted virtually everyone involved in its production.

Although I did enjoy the Paige O'Hara featurette in the Signature Edition of BATB, I would have liked to have seen the remaining cast members get attention as well such as Robby Benson or Angela Lansbury. The Aladdin featurette did a great job of including all the main cast and not just Scott. And TLM didn't have a single decent new feature that we basically haven't already seen before. The rumored Jodi introspective feature never came into fruition it seems. Although I wouldn't expect Disney to do anything for the 4K BATB, at the same time it's important to note that the 4K will be released a few years after the Blu-Ray Signature Edition, whereas TLK's two separate releases were both quite close together. So maybe Disney will actually throw in a bonus or two. TBH, with BATB I'm not that concerned about bonus features so much as I am the transfer since this is likely the last opportunity we'll get for Disney to release it on home video, unless there's another format after 4K.

I absolutely despise the Disney Channel features and that's another reason I've loved the Aladdin Signature Edition so much because it ported everything over from the Diamond Edition with the except of the cringe-worthy Disney Channel feature. Dalmatians seems to have done that as well, and the very fact that it's not only ported most/all the old bonus features, but added new ones and even included a previous digital-only feature on the disc (a first for the Signature line) makes me quite excited for that as well and recommend it highly. I'm hoping The Jungle Book will follow in the footsteps of these films rather than Sleeping Beauty which has had two consecutively disappointing releases now.


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