Tangled: The Series
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Good to know S3 can be submitted next year!
I'm glad to know they really liked Varian. He was my favorite character on the show, too, even surpassing the characters from the movie, actually. I guess I had the cynical thought it may have been because he was a male character since I had been thinking about the fact that the Hercules show completely removed Meg and the Muses (critical parts of the film) for the series (aimed primarily at boys)... Which made me think about the hypothetical Varian spinoff, and I thought perhaps they thought that Disney would be less likely to greenlight a Cass show because Tangled: The Series had poor ratings and Disney tends to blame low performance of supposedly "female-oriented" things on them being primarily aimed at female viewers in the first place (sort of like what they did with fairy tales and princesses after TP&TF's supposed underperformance in 2009; and a similar thing happened in regards to TLM when it was about to be released, that they didn't expect it to do very much because it was a "girl's film," before it really took off).
I'm glad to know they really liked Varian. He was my favorite character on the show, too, even surpassing the characters from the movie, actually. I guess I had the cynical thought it may have been because he was a male character since I had been thinking about the fact that the Hercules show completely removed Meg and the Muses (critical parts of the film) for the series (aimed primarily at boys)... Which made me think about the hypothetical Varian spinoff, and I thought perhaps they thought that Disney would be less likely to greenlight a Cass show because Tangled: The Series had poor ratings and Disney tends to blame low performance of supposedly "female-oriented" things on them being primarily aimed at female viewers in the first place (sort of like what they did with fairy tales and princesses after TP&TF's supposed underperformance in 2009; and a similar thing happened in regards to TLM when it was about to be released, that they didn't expect it to do very much because it was a "girl's film," before it really took off).
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My ranking would be very similar. I'll only swap "Never Leave" and "As You Move Forward"'s places, though I think "As You Move Forward" is probably better objectively speaking.Sotiris wrote:Here's my ranking:
01. Waiting in the Wings (from Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure)
One of the best songs in the show. Great melody, meaningful lyrics, and a Broadway-worthy performance by Eden Espinosa.
02. As You Move Forward (from The Lion Guard)
It's decent. Not particularly memorable, but not bad either.
03. Never Leave (from Elena of Avalor)
It has a nice beat and a Latin-flavored orchestration, but all of the songs from this show do. I'm perplexed as to why this one specifically was chosen over much better ones in the series. There's a new song in every episode, so there's certainly no shortage of them.
04. Gonna Go Good (from Big Hero 6: The Series)
Another odd choice from the voting committee. The song's loud and obnoxious, but at least the singer is competent. You can tell she has a music background.
05. The Vamp Opera (from Vampirina)
This really isn't a song. Just dialogue with rhyming. It's annoying, overlong, with no structure. Listening to the entire thing was exhausting. I understand why it was nominated though. The voters must have liked the gimmick of having an entire episode sung-through. That's not common in kids TV.
I agree, a spin-off with Cassandra would be more interesting for me too.Disney's Divinity wrote:I had a stray thought the other day about how they tried to get a Varian spin-off. While I wish it had happened since I loved Varian and would've liked to see more of the character, it's a shame they didn't think of doing a spin-off with Cassandra. Isn't the storyboards involving her what got this series off the ground itself? And her future is left very vague at the end. It would've made more sense to shop a spin-off with her, really... But perhaps they thought a boy's show would be more likely to be picked up.
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So well deserved!Daytime Emmys wrote:The #DaytimeEmmys Award in Original Song in a Children’s, Young Adult or Animated Program goes to...
Waiting in the Wings
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YEEESSS!!! This series' music deserved it overall. Very happy!
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But wait, there's more!
https://twitter.com/DaytimeEmmys/status ... 3682291714Daytime Emmys wrote:The #DaytimeEmmys Award in Outstanding Writing for an Animated Program goes to...
Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure
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And it tied with Nick's LOS CASAGRANDES for Best Main Title Design!!!
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I'm so glad this series is finally getting some recognition!
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Yes, not just the music, but the writers of the show deserve this so much, too. They took a show I had very little initial interest in and did something unimaginably great with it. I hope Disney rewards them with more work, too. I'd love if they had some involvement at WDAS, although I imagine making a TV series and a film are very different.D82 wrote:I'm so glad this series is finally getting some recognition!
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I agree, the writing of the series was great and it's one of the important categories. It's so great it got recognition as well as the music. I hope too the writers get more work as a reward.Disney's Divinity wrote:Yes, not just the music, but the writers of the show deserve this so much, too. They took a show I had very little initial interest in and did something unimaginably great with it. I hope Disney rewards them with more work, too. I'd love if they had some involvement at WDAS, although I imagine making a TV series and a film are very different.
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It may have taken some time but the music of this show has finally been recognized! Now we wait for the second Emmy win in the category for either "Crossing the Line" or "Nothing Left to Lose".
Anyway, congrats to all the winners!
Source: https://twitter.com/DisneyTVA/status/12 ... 9996355585
Anyway, congrats to all the winners!
Source: https://twitter.com/DisneyTVA/status/12 ... 9996355585
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I’d love “Nothing Left to Lose” to win, but I know most here preferred “Crossing the Line,” which means it probably has the better chances.
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The showrunner said he had envisioned "Waiting in the Wings" six years ago!
Source: https://twitter.com/BigPants/status/1287551439275868162Chris Sonnenburg wrote:Thank you SO much Glenn for all of your & Alan's hard work on the show. If ANY of the songs deserved this award, it was this one. I envisioned this song almost 6 years ago, and the way you executed it was absolute perfection. Eden Espinosa, what a voice! Congrats to you all.
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I also prefer "Nothing Left to Lose", but I wish both songs would win. I don't know if it's very likely, though. Maybe they'll feel they've already given the show enough recognition. But if they're the best songs in their categories they deserve to win, so we'll see.Disney's Divinity wrote:I’d love “Nothing Left to Lose” to win, but I know most here preferred “Crossing the Line,” which means it probably has the better chances.
It seems Disney had a great night! By the way, I forgot to say that I'm happy for Glenn Slater too. And for Claire Keane (Glen Keane's daughter), who was also one of the award recipients for the illustrations she did for the intro.Sotiris wrote:Anyway, congrats to all the winners!
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Oh, that's wonderful for Claire Keane! Her artwork has been gorgeous. And I'm glad for the writers that Menken was able to bring their vision to life successfully.
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Apart from answering questions about Tangled on Twitter for its 10th anniversary, Glenn Slater also replied to questions about the TV series and posted the lyrics of the deleted song "Lady in Waiting":
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 7544545285After creating such a whole and complete story with the film, how did it feel to revisit the characters and create for new ones in the series? Do you view the series as a sequel to the film?
After writing the movie, it felt "complete" - we couldn't quite envision what a sequel would be. And then Chris Sonnenburg pitched us an idea - a whole story that would take place in the gap after the action of the film, but before the wedding at the end.
We loved the ambition of the idea. The fact that so many of the original cast members were returning was the icing on the cake. And that they were adding in Broadway actors who we loved, like Eden Espinosa and Jeremy Jordan was the cherry on top. So - we were truly excited.
Even then, I don't think we were quite prepared for just how epic the series would be! We definitely saw it a fitting sequel to the film before we started - but now, it feels like the inevitable sequel. Cass and Varian and Lance feel like they've always been part of the story.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 8832950272Were there any ideas for the music you didn't end up using in the movie that you later used for the series?
We had started writing "Wind In My Hair" as an end credits song, then abandoned it when "Something That I Want" came in. But it always had that "next chapter in Rapunzel's life" feel for us, so it felt natural going back to that music and making the lyrics specific to the series.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 3747911680and really drives home his character development in the series. he goes from “nonono sorry boys i don’t sing” in the film to having one of the most beautiful and heartbreaking ballads in the series with “everything i ever thought i knew”.
Aww, I love that song too! I was desperate to write a real heartfelt moment for Zachary Levi to sing, and he just knocked it so far out of park!
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 3038223360Did this in any way inspire The Girl Who Has Everything from the Cassandra's Revenge episode of the show?
Oh, absolutely! We always go back to that initial "Rapz as folkie" impulse for inspiration, because that idealistic, vulnerable, hopeful sound captures her so well. And in "The Girl Who Has Everything", she's at her most hopeful - so we wanted a pure expression of that hope. (Plus, while Mandy Moore can sing just about anything to perfection, she's particularly amazing in that folk-rock mode. She had just released her album "Amanda Leigh" when we cast her, and if you haven't heard it yet - OMG, it's fantastic!)
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 4123386880I've always gotten a sort of "rock star" vibe off of Eugene, especially when taking into account "Flynn Rider: Wanted Man" and his verse in "Life After Happily Ever After". That being said what was it like for you actually getting into the emotional side of him for "Everything I Ever Thought I Knew'?
The series did such amazing work deepening and strengthening Eugene's character. By the revelations of Season 3, there's no longer a "surface Eugene" and "inner Eugene" - that separation, which he was so careful to maintain, has collapsed...
While writing the movie, it was hard to imagine him singing in anything OTHER than a "rock star" mode. By the end of the series, it was hard to imagine him singing in anything other than his heartfelt mode. That's an amazing character arc!
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 1555537923I've always gotten a sort of "rock star" vibe off of Eugene, especially when taking into account "Flynn Rider: Wanted Man" and his verse in "Life After Happily Ever After". That being said what was it like for you actually getting into the emotional side of him for "Everything I Ever Thought I Knew'?
The series did an amazing job of strengthening and deepening Eugene. For the film, we couldn't imagine him singing in anything other than "rock star mode". By the revelations of Season 3, we couldn't imagine him singing in anything other than "heartfelt mode".
That's an amazing character arc, and it was immensely satisfying as a writer to take him on that journey. Similarly satisfying to let Zachary Levi - who we all know can be hilarious - have those big emotionally wrenching moments, and to let the world see what huge range he has.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 1066488833What is your favorite song from season 3 of Rapunzels Tangled Adventure?
So hard to choose between "Crossing The Line" and "Nothing Left to Lose"! And...I have a real soft spot for "Bigger Than That", I think James Monroe Iglehart's performance is just amazing.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 5471157251Were you excited to do a reprise of “life after happily ever after” for the series finale and feel rapunzels journey in the series come full circle start to finish because of that song being reprised?
Yes! I love "Life After Happily Ever After" - it was the first song we wrote for the series, and It's the one that made me feel like the songs could be as good as the ones in the movie. So it felt great to bring it full circle, and end the series where we began it.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 8435935232Are there any songs you had written for series that ended up being cut from the final production?
Well...there were a few that weren't quite good enough, so they got replaced. A song called "I'm Gonna Show You" that got thrown out and replaced by "Let Me Make You Proud" (SO MUCH BETTER!). A song called "Lady In Waiting" that got tossed and replaced by "Waiting In the Wings" and so on. But nothing that would have been "extra". The plan was 10 songs per season, and that's what we ended up with.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 7372889096The songs in Tangled the movie and the series were amazing. When it came time to write Everything I Ever Thought I Knew what or who inspired you?
Honestly? Mostly just the character himself! I've lived with Eugene for a loooong time - so at this point, I don't need to dig into my own life for inspiration, I have enough of a history with the character to write for him on his own terms.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 9452420097Did you have a certain feel for the different series characters’ songs (like cass, varian, lance)? It was interesting seeing u talk about the sort of style u used for rapunzel and eugene!!
In all three cases, our writing was absolutely informed by our familiarity with the performers. We know exactly what Eden, Jeremy, and James can do - and when you have high-performance vehicles like that, you REALLY want to take them out for a joy-ride! Hence - epic moments!
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 4894576641Not a question but I just wanna say the instrumentals in buddy song are amazing
Totally agree! Our arranger for the series, Kevin Kliesch, is amazing. Still in awe of what he did for "Nothing Left To Lose".
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 7001608192Are there any deleted songs from the series that you wished could have made it in? if so, what were they about?
All the deleted songs in the series were replaced by similar, but much better, songs. So...nope, really happy with the way it all worked out!
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 4208440326If you can write one more song for any of the characters in the series, who? Also if there is a spin off what character should have one? &would you write the songs? Ps thank you for the movie and series soundtrack, what beautiful, epic, and inspiring songs
If there were a Varian spin-off, I'd totally sign up - love writing for Jeremy Jordan, and didn't get to do nearly as many songs for him as I wanted to.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 0175662081You guys worked so hard on tangled the series, do you wish it got more attention or that Disney promoted it more?
God yes! Thrilled that it found such a big and healthy fandom - but can't help but feel it could have been so much bigger if Disney hadn't dropped the ball.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 4771305475How was the writing process of Waiting in the Wings ? Was it a fast process ? Slow ? Fun ?
We wrote a whole other song first, called "Lady In Waiting". It was...pretty good, actually! But...while it worked in the context of the moment, and didn't quite work in context of her longer story arc. So I got a call from Chris Sonnenburg. Periodically, he'd have to make these kinds of calls - so hard to do, basically telling Alan Menken "um, your song doesn't quite work..." but we had a huge level in faith in this team, so if they needed something slightly different we were happy to oblige. It took a few weeks, and a few adjustments. Alan wrote a new melody with a chorus that found the right balance between yearning and despair. And I rethought the lyric so that it felt a bit more unresolved. After all, this isn't her big meltdown, it's the first cracks in her wall. And she can still hold back the flood here. We needed to keep our powder dry and save the big explosions for a later moment...which turned out to be "Crossing the Line".
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 0001138688Would you work on a Varian spin-off, a Cassandra spin-off, or both?
Either/or!
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 4617358336What I wouldn’t give to hear a demo of Lady in Waiting (please)
Here's the lyrics to Lady In Waiting:
I guess I’m a lady in waiting,
‘Cause waiting is all that I do.
I’m always the one
Whose big day in the sun
Just happens to never come through.
The girl no one needs to pay heed to,
Whose name no one bothers to learn,
Holding my tongue,
Overlooked and unsung,
Just patiently waiting my turn.
Well, I’m tired of life in the shadows,
Of hiding my light in a drawer,
I’m done masquerading—
This lady is waiting for more.
Waiting for action!
Waiting for glory!
Waiting for just one chance to star in my own story.
Tired of dreaming,
Ready to wake.
I wonder, how much longer will it take?
Like so many ladies in waiting,
My patience has worn a bit thin.
I’ve had it to here
With my back-seat career,
It’s time for MY life to begin.
And all of the laughers and doubters
Who sneer so contemptuously,
Well, soon they’ll all know
What I knew long ago:
The world has been waiting for me!
Waiting for passion!
Waiting for feeling!
Waiting for someone who can smash that stained-glass ceiling!
I know I’m ready,
Sure as can be.
I may have waited before,
But this lady’s waiting no more!
The time has come to seize my fate--
I’ll show them all, just wait...
And see!
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 4350602241For me, Nothing left to lose is one of the most memorable moments of animated TV. Obviously there is an incredible coordination work between animators and music. When did you start planning that song?
All credit as far as planning goes to Chris Sonnenburg and his story team - they had all three seasons mapped out from the get go. I'm not 100% sure they foresaw the Varian/Cass duet from the very beginning - but certainly by the time they started working on Season 3.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 8819940353What was your experience working with Jeremy Jordan? and with the varian songs! i feel like he's a character with a lot of potential
Ugh, Jeremy Jordan is so ridiculously talented. Every note he sings is meticulously planned, and he brings so much intelligence to his choices. I was constantly surprised by the slight deviations he'd make - and how each deviation improved upon our original intentions.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 3163145221And for "i'm gonna show you"? i would love to hear it one day, it's very curious
It was a duet for Varian and Qirin. It had a kind of 80s rock vibe. Trust me, you're very happy that we threw it out and wrote "Let Me Make You Proud" instead.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 8416009216alpha stage Waiting in Wings omg This is cool but sort of glad it got changed up and such because like I always say Waiting in the Wings is literally the best Disney character song behind Reflection from Mulan
Agreed! You can see from these lyrics - she comes to a resolution way too early in her arc. That's why we had to recalibrate, put this in the drawer, and write "Waiting In The Wings" instead.
Source: https://twitter.com/SlaterLyrics/status ... 1198356480Let me make you proud is in my option one of the best songs you guys wrote for tangled
Of everything from the series, it's probably the one I go back to listen to the most.
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I'm surprised there was so much talk about a spinoff from the people asking the questions. I think it would've happened by now if it was going, too. I'm sure he didn't want to burst their bubbles by saying it's not going to happen. A Cass or Varian spinoff would've been great though.
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Yes, this so much!!!Mandy Moore can sing just about anything to perfection, she's particularly amazing in that folk-rock mode. She had just released her album "Amanda Leigh" when we cast her, and if you haven't heard it yet - OMG, it's fantastic!)
Truth, and I'm all about honesty, but Glenn, don't bite the hand that gives you paychecks!but can't help but feel it could have been so much bigger if Disney hadn't dropped the ball.
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Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure had the most-viewed video on Disney Channel's YouTube account in 2020 and six more in the Top 50. Waiting in the Wings and Crossing the Line were not included as they were released in 2019.
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I guess the show had a very cult following that would re-watch clips over and over? I think I helped get NLtL to #9, since I watched it 20 times or so when that episode first aired.
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The Disney Princesses in the style of Tangled: The Series. This is official art created for the Garmin Vivofit Jr. activity tracker for kids. You can watch a commercial for it, here.
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