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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:18 pm 
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Ive also read that a book description statesthere's a dam that was made by the Arendellans that angered the nature spirits and Elsa has to destroy it. It doesn't specify when the dam was built, if it was when Agdar was a child when he visited the enchanted land that caused the incident that got him into trouble there or or if its more recent. Why would a dam built when the King wad a child (or earlier)make the spirits mad and call on Elsa so many years later when she's a young adult?



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Am I the only one who feels like all these different synopses have a lot of different things going on that don’t all add up? spirits, voices of the past, a wolf, the seasons, the elements... I’m just hoping there’s been some bad interpretations and the story is clear and concise because right now I feel like this could easily go the way of convoluted half-baked lore that doesn’t make much sense.


the wolf is from a middle-school novel that takes place between the first and second films, its not really tied to the events of the 2nd one.

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Ive also read that a book description statesthere's a dam that was made by the Arendellans that angered the nature spirits and Elsa has to destroy it. It doesn't specify when the dam was built, if it was when Agdar was a child when he visited the enchanted land that caused the incident that got him into trouble there or or if its more recent. Why would a dam built when the King wad a child (or earlier)make the spirits mad and call on Elsa so many years later when she's a young adult?

Interesting. That reminds me of something I saw in a video recently when I was searching for info about the Sami. In the video, they said the construction of a dam was an important event in the recent history of the Sami, because it made them start fighting for their rights as a community. I wonder if the filmmakers were inspired by this real event. I couldn't find that video again, but here's a bit of info about what happened with that dam: http://www.environmentandsociety.org/to ... ontroversy


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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Ive also read that a book description statesthere's a dam that was made by the Arendellans that angered the nature spirits and Elsa has to destroy it. It doesn't specify when the dam was built, if it was when Agdar was a child when he visited the enchanted land that caused the incident that got him into trouble there or or if its more recent. Why would a dam built when the King wad a child (or earlier)make the spirits mad and call on Elsa so many years later when she's a young adult?

Interesting. That reminds me of something I saw in a video recently when I was searching for info about the Sami. In the video, they said the construction of a dam was an important event in the recent history of the Sami, because it made them start fighting for their rights as a community. I wonder if the filmmakers were inspired by this real event. I couldn't find that video again, but here's a bit of info about what happened with that dam: http://www.environmentandsociety.org/to ... ontroversy

That's really neat if they chose to be inspired by a real story. The popularity of Frozen would help spread the plight of the Sami and their struggles in that case, especially since I can safely say that most Americans are not even aware of their existence as a people.


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^Yes, it would be great if it could serve that purpose.


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Josh Gad said in an interview that he thinks the songs in the sequel are even better than the ones in the original.


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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D82 wrote:
After the backlash over Halle Bailey's casting in the Little Mermaid remake, I've decided not to complain about these details, because it's clear that what we need right now is more representation for people to get used to seeing characters from other ethnicities on the big screen. I don't think all the people who complained in this case were racist, I know Ariel's look is very iconic and I believe many of them (like the members here) just wanted her to look like the animated character, but I'm sure that if they had announced Ariel would be blonde, for example, there wouldn't have been such a strong backlash online.


The backlash is created by media, at least partially. The tabloids only reports and quotes the most aggressive comments from both sides, and ignores the more civilized discussions, which is not as efficient as clickbait.

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I could be wrong, but she doesn't look like the same girl to me.


We should find out who's who not many months from now.


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Rumpelstiltskin wrote:
D82 wrote:
I could be wrong, but she doesn't look like the same girl to me.


We should find out who's who not many months from now.


Yeah, it could be extremely soon as next week! Wreck-It Ralph 2 introduced Shank around this time last year, along with Moana dropping its whole cast.


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:29 pm 
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Some new details from toy descriptions:

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"Elsa doll with a friend – This set includes Elsa and her frog friend."

"In Frozen 2, the friendship between Elsa and Olaf is intensified and the characters are connected by rare magic. Olaf is now able to perceive Elsa's emotions, even though he's far away. The package contains a figure of Elsa and Olaf. Olaf reacts to Elsa's movements and makes a variety of sounds."
Source: https://twitter.com/Fans_of_Frozen/stat ... 8262682627


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I can’t tell you anything but something super exciting and magically musical happened today.

I can tell you it had everything to do with Frozen 2
Source: https://twitter.com/Lyrikris10/status/1 ... 8995781632


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The backlash is created by media, at least partially. The tabloids only reports and quotes the most aggressive comments from both sides, and ignores the more civilized discussions, which is not as efficient as clickbait.

It's true that the tabloids do that, and I agree they made it seem the backlash was bigger than it actually was, but #NotMyAriel trended on Twitter, so there were many people who weren't happy with the casting. I know that, as someone here pointed out, not all the tweets were racist and part of them were people responding to the ones complaining, but there was still quite a strong negative reaction.


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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Olaf being able to feel what Elsa is feeling is silly and somewhat of a retcon. If he had that ability, it would have manifested itself from the start.

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^Maybe he had to get more in tune with his inner self/his own feelings before being able to go next-level?

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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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Maybe Olaf needed to be close in vicinity to Elsa for a while to create that "ability." In the first film, he was pretty far away from her for most of it except the "For the First Time in Forever (reprise)" scene. I don't know, I think it kind of makes sense. I've always supposed that Elsa's creations can only exist as long as she's alive, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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Maybe as Elsa's powers grow or she discovers more about them, they'll affect Olaf too given that he was created by her? I don't know, but I hope whatever the reason is; it'll make sense in the movie.

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I've always supposed that Elsa's creations can only exist as long as she's alive, too.

I never thought of that. You could be right about that. If there's a situation in the sequel in which Elsa is close to die, we could learn if it's true.


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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Jonathan Groff on Jimmy Fallon's show, debuting a line from Frozen 2!
Jonathan Groff Sings a Voice Memo as Frozen's Kri…: https://youtu.be/gjJoILhVQcE

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Well, Josh Gad has revealed a spoiler picture of Olaf from Frozen 2. Tumblr zoomed in on the picture and.....Olaf (nearly) melts

MAJOR SPOILER
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e9943a4e15d ... r1_540.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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^ "Some people are worth melting for." Stop chopping onions, guys. :cry: I wonder if Disney is upset with him for posting that...

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We now know that this art we've seen on various merch is based on Jim Kim's drawings. I'm a big fan of his so I'm glad he got to work on Frozen 2 as well. He's no longer employeed at WDAS so this must have been freelanced like the work he did on Ralph Breaks the Internet.

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We’ve partnered with Walt Disney Animation Studios to create a special limited edition 4 print set of Frozen 2 hand bills designed by Joe Dunn and based on art by Jin Kim! Here’s a first look! Each image is a 5x5" screen print and full sets will be given away at the WDAS booth FRIDAY 8/23 @ 6:30PM by reservation through the D23 EXPO APP!
Source: https://mailchi.mp/cyclopsprintworks/cy ... iew-part-1

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Those are very pretty.

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Animation on Frozen 2 has officially finished.

And spoilers about the ending:
https://twitter.com/Fans_of_Frozen/stat ... 1013735424
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1R-ck_IyvY/


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^ "Some people are worth melting for." Stop chopping onions, guys. :cry: I wonder if Disney is upset with him for posting that...

I don't think so; they retweeted the picture on the official Twitter account for the movie.

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We now know that this art we've seen on various merch is based on Jim Kim's drawings. I'm a big fan of his so I'm glad he got to work on Frozen 2 as well. He's no longer employeed at WDAS so this must have been freelanced like the work he did on Ralph Breaks the Internet.

I love his art too. Thanks for sharing those drawings!


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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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I hope so! I’m guessing they do get married considering the clothes, but it would be neat if they got engaged at the end of 2 and then married in Frozen 3.

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 Post subject: Re: Frozen 2
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I hope so! I’m guessing they do get married considering the clothes, but it would be neat if they got engaged at the end of 2 and then married in Frozen 3.

I don't think it's their wedding, I think it's a party at the end of the film where Kristoff proposes to Anna, but we'll see.


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