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When I saw Cinderella's pumpkin carriage in the title card, I was so excited!!! I thought we were going to see how she got it, and how Lady Tremaine discovered the Fairy Godmother, etc. I even thought the Fairy Godmother was going to be part of the coven. Gothel was totally like Ariel. I think the idea of an 18th century-like land existing before snuffing out all the magic and thousands of years later we got where we are today was a really stupid idea, but hey, that's just what I think. I thought it was hilarious when Robyn woke up from her trance and went "Oh! What the hell?" :lol: I was so excited when the glass slipper was found! Even though I thought Lucy was just gonna find the broken piece from it. The kiss not working is curious, but I suspect it may be because Facilier accidentally (or purposely) removed the magic-breaking from him when he removed the poison?

So excited for the next episode!!!!!
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New info and material for episode 20: promo, clip #01, clip #02, and stills.
On May 4, Jared Gilmore returns as Younger Henry, as many loose ends are tied up and a new threat is unleashed. “A lot of things we’ve been building through the season reach a boiling point,” says co-creator Adam Horowitz, “but a surprise at the end of the episode spins us into the finale — a challenge that arises from within.”
Source: http://tvline.com/gallery/may-sweeps-sp ... eeps-2018/
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Disney Duster wrote:Yeah, what was with the Candy Crush thing? Also, I thought Zelena said "Wicked always wins" from the first time she was even on the show. Saying her sister was evil but she was wicked and wicked always wins.
You're probably right. I must have forgotten about it. I only remembered the phrase from the song.
Disney Duster wrote:I liked how Rumplestiltskin said "I'll spin, spin, spin" in the last episode. Kind of showed him going crazy because that's all he could do and it was sad.
Yes, it was heartbreaking. Carlyle's performance was excellent in that scene.
Disney Duster wrote:And I forget, do we know what woke Tilly up?
We don't know yet. My theory is that she slowly started to wake up on her own because of her innate magic, Tremaine noticed and got worried so she found a way to pop her full of "special" pills to make her forget.
Disney Duster wrote:I was so excited when the glass slipper was found! Even though I thought Lucy was just gonna find the broken piece from it. The kiss not working is curious, but I suspect it may be because Facilier accidentally (or purposely) removed the magic-breaking from him when he removed the poison?
I also thought she was only going to find the little piece of the slipper we knew about. I didn't expect her to find the entire thing. As for the kiss not working, I don't think it was Facilier's fault. I believe it had something to do with the coven's spell that was happening at the same time.
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Yeah Carlyle was really good. Thanks for the info on Tilly waking up. You may be right about the coven's spell because I was wondering about that, too, but I forget if the kiss happened before or after all the magic from them started happening. Because we saw magical special effects happen with Henry before the kiss, I thought it was Facilier. I dunno.
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Articles about the two-part series finale.

Once Upon a Time: The Time Is Near for 'Intense,' 'Bittersweet' Wake-Up Call
http://tvline.com/2018/05/04/once-upon- ... k-wake-up/

Once Upon a Time Stars: Series Finale Delivers 'Pure Evil,' Emotional Encores and a Simply 'Beautiful' Ending
http://tvline.com/2018/05/09/once-upon- ... charmings/

Once Upon a Time's Lana Parrilla, Co-Stars React to Regina's Fate in Series Finale: 'It Is What She Deserves'
http://tvline.com/2018/05/18/once-upon- ... lms-merge/

Once Upon a Time Bosses Break Down Series Finale's 'Epic' Reunion, Pilot Callback and Other Favorite Moments
http://tvline.com/2018/05/18/once-upon- ... ood-queen/

Once Upon a Time Just Resolved Its Most Greatest Mystery of All (Ever!)
http://tvline.com/2018/05/18/once-upon- ... es-finale/

Which Once Upon A Time Reunions To Expect in the Series Finale
http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a ... -reunions/

Once Upon a Time: Can Rumple Defeat His Darkest Self?
http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a ... alm-henry/

Are You Ready for Once Upon a Time's "Bittersweet" Series Finale?
http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a ... es-finale/

Once Upon a Time Bosses Break Down Those Series Finale Happy Endings
http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a ... ie-kitsis/

A Happy Ending Isn't a Given in the 'Once Upon a Time' Series Finale
https://www.tvinsider.com/687203/once-u ... producers/

Once Upon a Time reveals final villain
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/04/once-upon-a ... lm-rumple/

Once Upon a Time boss explains that shocking timeline reveal
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/04/once-upon-a ... -timeline/

Fairy tale ending: Inside the magical Once Upon a Time series finale
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/04/once-upon-t ... -spoilers/

Once Upon a Time: Check out photos from the series finale
http://ew.com/tv/once-upon-a-time-series-finale-photos/

Once Upon a Time stars Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas talk the end of an era
http://www.ew.com/tv/2018/05/08/once-up ... interview/

Once Upon a Time's Lana Parrilla on end of show: 'I was pretty angry at first'
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/09/once-upon-a ... interview/

Once Upon a Time's Colin O'Donoghue: 'It will be difficult to let go of Hook'
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/11/once-upon-t ... interview/

Once Upon a Time's Andrew J. West, Dania Ramirez tease show's epic ending
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/14/once-upon-a ... interview/

Once Upon a Time's Rose Reynolds, Tiera Skovbye on show's final love story
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/15/once-upon-a ... interview/

Once Upon a Time's Rebecca Mader says goodbye — again
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/16/once-upon-a ... interview/

Once Upon a Time's Jennifer Morrison doesn't regret her season 6 exit
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/17/once-upon-a ... interview/

The Hot Seat: Once Upon a Time bosses answer your burning Qs — one last time!
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/10/once-upon-a ... es-finale/

Once Upon a Time bosses list the show's 25 craziest fairy-tale twists
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/14/once-upon-t ... torylines/

Once Upon a Time bosses pen thank-you letter to fans ahead of finale
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/18/once-upon-a ... ew-letter/

Once Upon a Time just mocked its own complicated story lines
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/11/once-upon-a ... ory-lines/

Once Upon a Time bosses on that surprise series finale ending
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/18/once-upon-a ... ostmortem/

Once Upon a Time's Lana Parrilla reacts to Regina's happy ending
http://www.ew.com/tv/2018/05/18/once-up ... ood-queen/

Once Upon a Time star on Hook and Rumple's heartbreaking ending
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/19/once-upon-a ... es-finale/

Once Upon a Time stars on that unfinished love story
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/19/once-upon-a ... es-finale/

Once Upon a Time's Rebecca Mader accidentally spoiled the series finale
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/19/once-upon-a ... es-finale/

'Once Upon a Time' Will Retain its Hopeful Theme Through (and Ever After) the Series Finale
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live- ... ct-1110867

'Once Upon a Time' Creators Close Book on Series Finale, Look to Next Chapter
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live- ... ew-1113233

'Once Upon a Time' Showrunners Reveal How to Staff a TV Writers Room (Guest Column)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... eal-703429

‘Once Upon a Time’ Team Talks Series Finale, Show’s Legacy
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/once-up ... 202804040/

‘Once Upon A Time’ Series Finale: Is The Book Finally Closed On Fairy Tale Land?
http://deadline.com/2018/05/once-upon-a ... 202393790/

Interview: Once Upon A Time EPs Preview The 2-Part Series Finale
http://www.ksitetv.com/once-upon-a-time ... le/178712/

Ginnifer Goodwin & Josh Dallas on Tonight’s Once Upon a Time Finale
http://www.ksitetv.com/once-upon-a-time ... le/179498/

‘Once’ star won’t give up Hook’s stylish leather pants
https://nypost.com/2018/05/14/once-star ... her-pants/

Everything We Know About the Once Upon A Time Series Finale
https://d23.com/everything-we-know-abou ... es-finale/

The Memories that Leave the Once Upon A Time Stars Feeling Happy Ever After
https://d23.com/the-memories-that-leave ... ver-after/

Once Upon a Time Bosses Preview the Epic Series Finale: "We're All Gonna Sing the Songs One More Time"
https://www.eonline.com/news/934526/onc ... -more-time

Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas on Returning for Once Upon a Time's Finale: We Were Wondering Why It Took Them So Long
https://www.eonline.com/news/936262/gin ... em-so-long

Once Upon a Time's Lana Parrilla Hasn't Begun Saying Goodbye to Regina Yet
https://www.eonline.com/news/936697/onc ... regina-yet

'Once Upon a Time' Stars Ginnifer Goodwin & Josh Dallas Dish on Snowing's Magical Return
https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/o ... cal-return

'Once Upon a Time': Lana Parrilla Answers the 'Biggest' Question Fans Have For Regina
https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/o ... for-regina

'Once Upon a Time' Bosses Tease Captain Swan's 'Even Happier' Ending in Series Finale!
https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/o ... ies-finale

Robert Carlyle: “I’ll miss Rumpelstiltskin very very much”
https://www.rostercon.com/en/magazine/n ... uch-117417

Jennifer Morrison talks hope, Baby Hope and her exit from Once Upon a Time at Calgary Expo
http://calgaryherald.com/entertainment/ ... lgary-expo
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— Gothel wants to wipe out humanity due to their ecological destruction. How Poison Ivy of her.

— Regina calling Hyperion Heights her home felt inauthentic and unearned. She didn't spend enough time or form any fond memories with her loved ones there to feel like home. What is Storybrooke or the Enchanted Forest then to her?

— Just a little while ago, Henry was believing left and right to the point of madness and out of the blue his belief just vanished without Gothel having anything to do with it? That doesn't make sense.

— A car is in the title card. Whose car is that? In any case, it's boring.

— Flashback to Storybrooke about a year before Henry left.

— The Tron: Legacy lunch box makes its appearance once again.

— Turns out the car in the title card was Madame Mayor's car who gave it to Henry.

— Storybrooke College? When did that happen? They barely had an elementary school there.

— Why didn't Henry use his car to go realm jumping instead of August's motorbike? It's safer and more comfortable.

— Regina is rightfully still cross at Rumple. I hope they mend their relationship soon. You better step up, Rumple!

— How on earth did Rumple manage to distill the memory potion from Hansel's blood? He doesn't have magic in Hyperion Heights.

— Again at this nonsense. :facepalm: When a Dark Curse breaks, it doesn't bring magic back to the land. It's only brings their memories back. That's why Rumple had to use a special potion to bring magic in Storybrooke at the end of season 1.

— I'm glad Rumple apologized and is trying to help. It's a rarity seeing him be vulnerable and open about his feelings.

— The coven witches are being turned into plants! rotfl

— Gothel wants to transform Hyperion Heights into The Eternal Grove.

— Granny: "This is vintage Curse-Era classic!" :P

— With Henry being The Author and now wanting to study film in LA, it becomes abundantly clear that he is nothing more than an author surrogate.

— Why didn't the memory potion work? It's supposed to bring back memories even without belief. I'm assuming it's because there wasn't a lot of it or wasn't potent enough to work.

— At least, they sort of explained why Henry doesn't believe in "the fairy tale stuff" anymore.

— Henry got into all those good colleges based on his education in Storybrooke? Were the SATs that year about building bird houses? :lol:

— Henry referred to Violet as his "first girlfriend" which means they broke up before his senior year and had another girlfriend since.

— Time travel, really? Because the timeline wasn't confusing enough as it is... :roll:

— But how does Regina know they've traveled back in time?

— Facilier is still the worst.

— Tiny has been in Storybrooke all this time? :shock: There was no mention of him since season 2.

— The call Henry makes to his younger self is a classic example of a time paradox, specifically that of a causal loop.

— Regina: "Letting go has never been my thing". That's true, in more ways than one. :wink:

— I liked the parallel between Regina giving Henry True Love's Kiss in season 2 and now Henry giving it to Regina.

— I'm surprised they didn't have Wish Hook kiss Alice and break the Curse of the Poisoned Heart. If he can be close enough to hold her hand, he can kiss her too. Why are they dragging this out?

— I hope the cursed people who moved away from Hyperion Heights regained their true identities as well.

— The reunion between Tiana and Naveen felt anticlimactic and a bit awkward. That's mostly because we still don't know the status of their relationship in Ella's realm. We never learned what happened to Naveen after Facilier enslaved him. Did Tiana manage to track him down and free him? Did they ever develop a romantic relationship? What happened during all those years between Tiana's coronation and Drizella's Dark Curse?

— The ending narration was nice. Aside from a couple of plot resolutions (like Wish Hook's cursed heart and Rumple's reunion with Belle), this felt like a series finale. It's hard to believe there are two more episodes left.

— Facilier is dead. Can't say I'm sad about this but I do feel sorry for Regina. All three of her love interests ended up dying. Yikes!

— It's a shame we never found out why Facilier wanted the Dark One's Dagger so badly or why he kidnapped Drew.

— Nice plot twist with Wish Rumple. Didn't see that coming. Last we saw him he was trapped in the dungeon without any powers. How was he able to escape? Did someone free him? I wonder what he wants though. Maybe to resurrect his Belle or his son? I hope it's not just more power 'cause that's a dull motivation.

— After watching the preview for the series finale, it seems that Wish Rumple wants Rumple's dagger. He already has his own dagger. Why does he need his as well?

— That's a wrap! Unlike previous season finales, this one won't air together. "Homecoming" will air on May 11th and "Leaving Storybrooke" on May 18th.
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Wow, once again Sotiris says things that sound right about the show, and also some things that are hilarious!
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New info and material for episode 21: promo, clip, behind-the-scenes featurette, and stills.
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— We start with a scene taking place in the Wish Realm.

— Wish Henry just got friendzoned! :lol:

— Who was the girl that Wish Henry almost kissed? There was a dragon and a sleeping curse involved so she might have been an alternate Aurora. I hate it when they introduce characters but don't even bother giving them a name.

— How did Wish Rumple get free? Last we saw him, Wish Hook left him powerless in the dungeon. Unless, after his duel with Ahab we went back and freed him off-screen.

— What did Wish Rumple mean when he said he came "all the way from the Wish Realm"? Are they in the Wish Realm right now? Isn't that Wish Henry? What's going on? :?

— A realm portal is in the title card.

— How come none of these fairy tale characters want go back home to Ella's realm? They seem content staying in Hyperion Heights.

— It's weird that Zelena didn't return to Hyperion Heights to be reunited with her daughter after she regained her memories. Did no one tell her the curse was broken? They should have at least mentioned that Robyn contacted her and they talked on the phone.

— Regina doesn't seem too distraught that Facilier's gone. Their relationship may have been "complicated" but she admitted to having feelings for him. Shouldn't she be more upset by this?

— It turns out that wasn't Wish Henry but our Henry after leaving Storybrooke but before arriving to Ella's ream. Why was he wearing royal-style clothing though?

— Why doesn't Henry remember meeting Wish Rumple before?

— At least we learned why Wish Rumple needs Rumple's dagger. If the Guardian absorbs the Dark One Curse, he will become a powerless mortal too.

— I'm glad Tiana addressed the responsibility she has to her people as Queen.

— Why is Wish Hook so eager to go back to the Wish Realm when it would mean leaving Alice behind again?

— That's not how magic mirrors work. You have to step into them or go through them to get to a different location. They don't generate magic bean-style portals.

— Wish Peter Pan shouldn't exist. In season 6, the magic wish duplicated the Enchanted Forest (aka Snow White's realm). Wonderland, Never Land, Oz, etc. are all different realms and therefore their inhabitants wouldn't have been duplicated. So, even if Wish Rumple traveled to Never Land he wouldn't find Peter Pan there as he was already killed by the other Rumple. The same goes for Cruella.

— The fight between Henry and Cruella was pointless and ludicrous. Victoria Smurfit is still hilarious as Cruella though.

— Why can't Rumple free Ella and Lucy from the snow globe? He possesses the same type of magic Wish Rumple does.

— How can passing on the dagger to a Guardian be a "corrupting force" when the whole point of their existence is being able to take in the Dark One Curse without being corrupted by it?

— Rumple giving the dagger to Wish Rumple won't cure him of the Dark One Curse. They will both remain the Dark One. Hard to believe Wish Rumple fell for that one.

— I can't believe they remembered the prophesy about Henry! It's been so long and that plot line never went anywhere.

— The Sorcerer: "That is indeed a complicated story. The timelines alone would make one's head spin." Just because they acknowledged it, doesn't make it OK. It doesn't excuse or erase their poor storytelling and the huge mess they made. I bet they think they're so cool for admitting it and pat themselves on the back for including that line.

— If the Henry we saw at the beginning of the episode was Wish Henry after all why did Wish Rumple say that he came all the way from the Wish Realm if he was already in the Wish Realm and why did Wish Henry say he didn't care what version of the Dark One he was? This doesn't make a lick of sense. :facepalm:

— Wish Rumple had the opportunity to rewrite reality and the only thing he did was to null the powers of the Guardian. You would think he'd want to resurrect Belle and his son too but apparently that's not the case. :roll:

— Wish Henry wasn't present when Regina killed his grandparents so he never watched her crush their hearts. He arrived at the scene shortly afterwards. Another continuity error.

— I guess Wish Hook told Alice about going to the Wish Realm off-screen.

— Alice and Robyn are going to Storybrooke 'cause this wasn't confusing and muddled enough. Why didn't they just fly to Maine and rent a car to drive to Storybrooke? Yes, it would have taken them longer to get there but they wouldn't have wasted their only magic bean. How are they going to get to the Wish Realm now?

— That's a wrap! You can watch the promo for the finale, here.
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Sotiris wrote: How did Wish Rumple got free? Last we saw him, Wish Hook left him powerless in the dungeon. Unless, after his duel with Ahab we went back and freed him off-screen.
Regina freed him in season 6, when she went after Emma to the Wish Realm.
Sotiris wrote: Alice and Robyn are going to Storybrooke 'cause this wasn't confusing and muddled enough. Why didn't they just fly to Maine and rent a car to drive to Storybrooke? Yes, it would have taken more time to get there but they wouldn't have wasted their only magic bean. How are they going to get to the Wish Realm now?
Perhaps they're using bean to go to Storybrooke in the right time, so after Henry and Regina left. That's not how the beans worked, but they changed everything about curse and portals this season.
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Raf wrote:Regina freed him in season 6, when she went after Emma to the Wish Realm.
Thanks! I completely forgot about that.
Raf wrote:Perhaps they're using bean to go to Storybrooke in the right time, so after Henry and Regina left. That's not how the beans worked, but they changed everything about curse and portals this season.
It would be a retcon but at least some sort of continuity will be preserved this way. Otherwise, they'll be in Storybrooke a few days after Henry went realm jumping which would create a huge continuity mess.
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Great observations as always! But I think the reason Rumple can't undo Wish Rumple's spell is because it's the kind of spell only the person who cast it can undo it, that specific person, no one else, not even a copy of the other person. But of course they'll probably find a way to undo it without Wish Rumple anyway.

Yeah, I always wondered why the prophecy about Henry was never resolved.

I think the comment about the stories that "make one's head spin" was them saying "Haha, yeah we know we screw up", not something to make themselves feel like they accomplished something but making fun of themselves.
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Disney Duster wrote:
I think the comment about the stories that "make one's head spin" was them saying "Haha, yeah we know we screw up", not something to make themselves feel like they accomplished something but making fun of themselves.
That's what I took away from it as well.
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New info and material for episode 22: promo #01, promo #02, promo #03, clip, cast interviews, behind-the-scenes featurette, and stills.
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— The final episode begins in Storybrooke with Grumpy whistling Heigh-Ho.

— Alice and Robyn traveled to Storybrooke in the time after Henry's graduation but before he left to go realm jumping. This creates a huge continuity issue since the events transpiring here due to time travel are bound to affect the past causing a time paradox. The only solution is for everyone who encountered Alice and Robyn in Storybrooke to have their memories wiped.

— Granny's getting her crossbow! :lol:

— "Leaving Storybrooke" sign is in the title card.

— Regina and Emma have taken Henry on a graduation trip.

— Zelena has another magic bean stashed in her house. That's convenient.

— Wish Rumple had Wish Henry remove Rumple's powers and immortality off-screen so he wouldn't be able to stop him. It looks like Rumple got what he wanted without the help of the Guardian.

— Why didn't Regina, or anyone else really, care about what happened to Wish Henry when they learned in episode 2 that the Wish Realm was real and permanent? Why didn't anyone try to go back there to support him? He lost his entire family and was left all alone. That previous neglect is making these declarations of wanting to help him now ring hollow.

— Regina's dreaming of Robin Hood. Why they didn't resurrect him to give Regina her happy ending, I'll never understand. Yes, romantic love isn't everything but every other main character got to share their lives with their beloved except for Regina. What they've done to her is just cruel and unfair.

— Regina woke up with a red feather in her hand indicating that Robin's soul was really there so as to support and guide her.

— Rumple and Wish Hook shared a nice little moment there. Who would have thought they'd eventually become friends?

— Where did Maui's fish hook come from? Where did they find it? Alice couldn't have conjured it up as she lost her magic.

— So, Wish Rumple's plan is to trap every hero from every realm in a storybook? :lol:

— Rumple crying about being unable to reunite with Belle was touching. :(

— Did the Charmings come with Zelena, Alice, and Robyn to the Wish Realm? I assume they did and then got split up off-screen to go help Regina.

— I liked how Regina tried to reach Wish Henry and almost sacrificed herself to save him. It was odd though there was no mention of Emma. You'd think Wish Henry would have questions about where his mom disappeared to.

— Wish Rumple: "So, what's your plan then? Talk me to death?" :lol:

— Rumple has finally realized that doing good is its own reward.

— Why didn't Wish Rumple stop Rumple from pulling out his own heart? Was he in shock and unable to act fast?

— Shouldn't have Rumple taken Wish Hook's poisoned heart out first before putting his in? Does Wish Hook have two hearts now? Did the poisoned heart just disappear?

— Why did Wish Rumple die when Rumple did? Rumple's selfless act should have resulted in the dissolution of the Dark One Curse, not the elimination his Wish Realm self.

— Shouldn't had Baelfire been there in the afterlife with Belle? It was a mistake not hiring the actor for a cameo. It would have made the reunion more powerful. Let's not forget, it was Rumple's love for his son and his desire to reunite with him that started it all.

— Rumple's reunion with Belle was a little underwhelming. I think it would have been better if they had them dance to the tune of Beauty and the Beast.

— I hope Wish Blue Fairy got out of the storybook Wish Rumple trapped her in.

— Oh, suddenly now they're run out of magic beans and need a Dark Curse to take them back? :roll:

— Regina doesn't need to crush anyone's heart to cast another curse. She can use her blood instead. It was established this very season.

— Bringing all the realms to Storybrooke has to be the dumbest, most ridiculous idea this show has ever come up with. It makes absolutely zero sense and no amount of suspension of disbelief can make it work. The last ounce of continuity, logic, and believability on this show is thrown out the window. I can't believe they're actually ending the show like this. :facepalm:

— "Some Time Later..." The show has really become a parody of itself.

— The United Realms look like a theme park.

— They've turned the storyline of Maleficent and Lily into a joke by making Zorro be Lily's father (and a dragon). The characters and the audience invested in them, who waited so long for a resolution, deserved better than this.

— Why is Wish Henry calling Regina "mom"? :? I understand forgiving her and maybe starting to become friends with her but calling her mom crosses a line. She was never his mother and calling her that is nonsensical and insulting to Regina's relationship with the real Henry.

— Apparently, the United Realms are an elective monarchy and they elected Regina as their queen. I find it hard to believe that all of these people would elect someone who had previously terrorized them no matter how much she had changed. Was the election rigged? :P Not to mention how implausible it is for the kings and queens of other realms to have willingly given up their title and power.

— Didn't time work differently in some realms? Did all of the timelines mesh too when the realms were combined?

— The thing is Regina never wanted to be a queen. She wanted to live a simple life with her beloved Daniel. Becoming queen was traumatic for her. It marked the beginning of her misery. I don't see how Regina becoming queen again would make her happy. She would have negative feelings towards that role. After all, she became the "Queen" of Storybrooke in the season 6 finale but as soon as Henry left she was unhappy and felt unsatisfied with the position. It's clear that being the Mayor or the Queen isn't fulfilling enough for her.

— Why is Pinocchio a child again at the coronation instead of an adult? He was aged up in Storybrooke and his Wish Realm version was an adult too.

— ...and the Evil Queen finally became the Good Queen.

— The End.
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Great thoughts and questions Sotiris. But I actually really did like the ending. I don't know if it's dumb when you consider how the show has portrayed all the realms. It's like all of them are connected in one big magical fantasyland. I dunno. I guess I feel like they were never clear, on the realms? But if they were set a certain way from the beginning I would agree it shouldn't be the way they did it. But many people who ended up in Storybrooke were from different realms, weren't they? And they oddly never wanted to go home. Not even the Enchanted Forestians. I'm glad this show kind of started with Regina and ended with her (even though it was really supposed to be about Emma), I thought it was a fitting way to end the show, with her and Rumplestiltskin getting their happily ever afters. I loved what Rumplestiltskin did for himself and others, and what Regina was about to do. I liked how Belle re-united with Rumplestiltskin and I feel a Beauty and the Beast dance wouldn't have meant as much as the talking and tender touching. I think Wish Rumple disappeared because just like losing the dagger's power effected both Rumples, so did removing one's heart. That's a rather flimsy idea, but then again I also thought both Rumples being effected when just one gave up his powers was filmsy, too. Glad to see everyone return for the end of a meh season and the end of an incredible show!
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Spoiler for new Avengers film

Wish Rumple wasn't spared by Thanos :P

Time to get on an emotional soap box of why I enjoyed Once up a time, and like the characters in the show, have evolved.

Once I lived in darkness, out there on my own, everything seemed hopeless, with no chance to break free. These lyrics from Emma's theme is how I felt in the summer of 2012 when I began streaming season one of Once Upon a Time on hulu plus. At the same time, I was suffering from my very first herniated disc. I had a mattress on my living room floor that I slept on, because sleeping on my bed was painful. It's then while searching through hulu plus did I find this unique looking show Once upon a time. I watched it, looking for any kind of escape I could find to distract me from by far the worst pain I had ever had in my life. I watched episode after episode, getting to know characters like Regina, Rumple, Emma and Henry. These characters for a brief moment, made me forget how much pain I was in. Like Rumpelstiltskin, I have evolved and changed throughout each stressful situation, becoming a better version of me in the previous years, even when there were times I reverted back to my old ways (or back issues coming back) Yet, my life has changed dramatically. I'm in college, a radio television major, once again back into theater, socializing more, getting out in community. I have become the best version of me that is in any realm or alternate world. Heck, my dad even got into watching Once Upon A Time with me when season 2 debuted around a few months later (I did have him re-watch season one with me before season 2 aired) and without that show, I'm not sure how I would have coped with the 10 months of by far the worst back pain I had ever had up to that time, 4 of those months with no pain meds whatsoever. Yet, my hope that a happily ever after came true after 8 epidurals by March of 2014...well until a couple years later, but I've risen above it. Once Upon a Time helped me through the darkest time in my life, heck I even got to play Rumpelstiltskin in a somewhat original works play called If The Shoe fits that seemed like Once Upon a Time fan fiction, but drew elements of Rumple from Once Upon a Time to use as my character and was my first time being in a play in nearly 17 years. I will miss watching this show, no matter how bad it got at times, or the continuity issues. All these years of running away from my problems, no not anymore. I know what I'm living for and that is for a better tomorrow to surrounded by those love me for who I am and meeting new people and making new magical memories.

If there's one thing I've learned from watching this show it's that I used to think I wanted a happily ever, but I now I finally know. There's no storm we can't out run, we will always find the sun, leave the past and all it's scars, a happy beginning now is ours.


Oh, and like the ending of everyone coming together in once place, no longer separated. That was actually the happily ever after If The Shoe Fits, where the characters were no longer separated by other realms, but all together for all time (though it was Rumple who made that possible and became a good guy in the end as well)
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Sotiris wrote: They've turned the storyline of Maleficent and Lily into a joke by making Zorro be Lily's father (and a dragon). The characters and the audience invested in them, who waited so long for a resolution, deserved better than this.
I agree so much! It was terrible :|. It would be better if they just didn't mention it and perhaps explore this storyline in the next book or something.

I have mixed feelings about the finale. First of all, it felt incredibly rushed to me. It had a great story that would probably look great if it was made into three episodes or something like that. It also felt less like a 'big finale' for me than the finale of season six. Rumple's death wasn't really sad, but for me Once always did have a problem with emotional death scenes. I didn't liked the scene with Belle, it could be so much better. I would make her older and let them meet in the house they built. Bae should at least be mentioned in this episode. Some of the things didn't make sense, like why is August no longer an adult. Some things should be made more clear, like the fact they are in the right timeline in the last scene. I would love to see some interaction between Snow or Emma and Jacinda and Lucy, but they totally ignored each other. That's a lot of things I didn't like, I guess :). But it wasn't bad. I loved the scenes in the Wish Realm, especially the one when they saw the endings Rumple prepared for them in his books. One last hope speech from Snow :). Robin talk with Hook was great. I also liked how the original Robin appeared, even if I can't stand his character. And I really, really loved the ending with the United Realms. I hated the idea at first, but when I saw they did not only transported the people but the whole realms in their original look, I think it's great no one is ever separated again. Too bad we can't get another season set in the United Realms, it would be amazing. Perhaps a book or a comic? God, I will miss this show so much :(.
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Raf wrote:
Too bad we can't get another season set in the United Realms, it would be amazing. Perhaps a book or a comic? God, I will miss this show so much :(.
Despite all the screw ups we've complained about, I too will miss this show as I talked about in my previous post about this show. Heck, this show gave me inspiration how to sound like Rumple in the play I was in with theater club at lake land college... so many memories, so many ways I've changed, and like all change, things eventually come to an end. I really like the idea of turning it into a book or a comic to continue the stories like Avatar The Last Airbender has for the true fans of Once.
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I didn't even remember seeing August. But yeah, I liked the realms coming together.

I liked your story, disneyboy20022. I'm glad you have grown so much and had such great experiences.
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