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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:49 pm
by Christopher_TCUIH
Whoa, right on Lnds500 :D!

I was pretty pleased with the 2008 edition but this looks great!

I'm always curious to see how they restore the... sketchier DACs.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:06 pm
by Lnds500
^Thanks! :D

I updated the Aristocats comparison post with pictures from the HDTV rip
Lnds500 wrote:As I said, I created a comparison between the different editions of the Aristocats (Gold Collection / Special Edition DVD / HDTV rip / Special Edition Blu-ray)
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* I also made two overlapping pictures to show off the difference between the current edition and the 1.33:1 Gold Collection edition. This is the first time I'm doing this so, please, bare with me :o

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Overlapping Comparison (Golden Edition DVD / Blu-ray)

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:27 am
by Jules
The HDTV rip seems to have better colour and contrast.

How does the Blu-ray look on your HDTV, Lnds500?

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:02 am
by Lnds500
Jules wrote:The HDTV rip seems to have better colour and contrast.

How does the Blu-ray look on your HDTV, Lnds500?
The same as it does in yours :P what do you mean?

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:02 am
by Jules
Lnds500 wrote:The same as it does in yours :P what do you mean?
:lol: Suppose I was vague.

What I meant to say was how good does The Aristocats blu-ray look, in your opinion, on a properly calibrated HDTV? I'm asking because while the screencaps of the blu-ray look somewhat muted in colour on my PC monitor, I'm almost sure that on a lovely plasma or LED screen, they will be far more punchy.

Not sure "punchy" is the right word to use here. Hmm ... :scratch:

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:23 am
by Lnds500
Jules wrote:
Lnds500 wrote:The same as it does in yours :P what do you mean?
:lol: Suppose I was vague.

What I meant to say was how good does The Aristocats blu-ray look, in your opinion, on a properly calibrated HDTV? I'm asking because while the screencaps of the blu-ray look somewhat muted in colour on my PC monitor, I'm almost sure that on a lovely plasma or LED screen, they will be far more punchy.

Not sure "punchy" is the right word to use here. Hmm ... :scratch:
I don't know if my TV is considered "properly calibrated" but yes, the colors seem a little muted. I don't think you could tell the difference if you were watching it without comparing it with the older releases, just like Pocahontas.

I answered something similar on Blu-ray.com. Basically no version is clearly superior IMO, both have trade offs.
Lnds500 wrote:Get the Blu-ray. Personally I love this film and if I didn't have it, I would get the BD. I'm torn between the HDTV rip and the Blu-ray. Neither is perfect. You choose either pristine picture but a bit soft image, or sharper picture with dirt, scratches etc.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:34 am
by Jules
Lnds500 wrote:I don't know if my TV is considered "properly calibrated" but yes, the colors seem a little muted. I don't think you could tell the difference if you were watching it without comparing it with the older releases, just like Pocahontas.

I answered something similar on Blu-ray.com. Basically no version is clearly superior IMO, both have trade offs.
Lnds500 wrote:Get the Blu-ray. Personally I love this film and if I didn't have it, I would get the BD. I'm torn between the HDTV rip and the Blu-ray. Neither is perfect. You choose either pristine picture but a bit soft image, or sharper picture with dirt, scratches etc.
So ...

1. I don't think my TV is properly calibrated either. :( I have a 40" edge-lit LED Sharp Aquos TV (about a year and a half old), and I have a nagging suspicion that were it to be properly calibrated, I may be able to get even better picture quality from it. I wish there was a good guide to calibrating TVs.

2. So the Pocahontas Blu-ray is a little muted in colours as well? That may be a good thing, as I remember my UK DVD being overly saturated during the "Savages" part.

3. I thought the Aristocats Blu-ray picture does look rather soft, going by those screencaps you posted, as well. But it does look very clean. Seems like Disney gave it good treatment. Keep in mind that the HDTV rip may not actually be truly sharper, but will merely be artificially enhanced. I think I could mimick the effect on my own TV by increasing the sharpness on watching the Aristocats blu-ray.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:53 am
by Lnds500
Jules wrote:So ...

1. I don't think my TV is properly calibrated either. :( I have a 40" edge-lit LED Sharp Aquos TV (about a year and a half old), and I have a nagging suspicion that were it to be properly calibrated, I may be able to get even better picture quality from it. I wish there was a good guide to calibrating TVs.

2. So the Pocahontas Blu-ray is a little muted in colours as well? That may be a good thing, as I remember my UK DVD being overly saturated during the "Savages" part.

3. I thought the Aristocats Blu-ray picture does look rather soft, going by those screencaps you posted, as well. But it does look very clean. Seems like Disney gave it good treatment. Keep in mind that the HDTV rip may not actually be truly sharper, but will merely be artificially enhanced. I think I could mimick the effect on my own TV by increasing the sharpness on watching the Aristocats blu-ray.
Others have said that the HDTV rip has edge enhancement, but if you compare the Blu-ray trailer pictures with the ones from the HDTV rip, they are not that much different in terms of sharpness

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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:34 am
by Sotiris
The Aristocats (Disney Movie Club Exclusive):
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=201730

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:12 am
by Chris
Just wanted to say how impressed I am with The Aristocats blu-ray. The picture is stunning. I'm appreciating this film like never before. Really gorgeous. The colors, the design, it's all shown off like never before... like a finely illustrated storybook come to life. The sound is wonderful as well. It's so pure. I never thought it could sound this good. Very happy with my purchase today!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:52 am
by 271286
What went wrong here? How can there be a HDTV rip that looks better than the BD rip? Shame on you Disney...

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:55 am
by monorail91
Sotiris wrote:The Aristocats (Disney Movie Club Exclusive):
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=201730
Wow that actually looks really cool! A lot of the Premium Package DMC exclusives don't have many "goodies" inside but those sketches look great.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:55 pm
by The_Iceflash
Chris wrote:Just wanted to say how impressed I am with The Aristocats blu-ray. The picture is stunning. I'm appreciating this film like never before. Really gorgeous. The colors, the design, it's all shown off like never before... like a finely illustrated storybook come to life. The sound is wonderful as well. It's so pure. I never thought it could sound this good. Very happy with my purchase today!
I agree! I was extremely impressed! I think the picture looks plenty sharp.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:22 pm
by Barbossa
Blu-Ray.com posts these good articles on Disney movies. Here is one for the Aristocats:

"The Making of Walt Disney's The Aristocats"
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9352

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:24 pm
by ToyStoryFan
My copy came in from Amazon today and I took it for a spin. WOW!!!! It is absolutely stunning. I could not believe my eyes. Absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. I don't own all of Disney's animated Blu-Rays but this has to be one of the best.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:59 pm
by REINIER
Thanks for the heads upAmazon is taking forever on my shipments as of lateStill waiting for Pocahontas/Tigger/Rescuers/African Cats/Oswald/Aristocats..

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:01 pm
by REINIER
Barbossa wrote:Blu-Ray.com posts these good articles on Disney movies. Here is one for the Aristocats:

"The Making of Walt Disney's The Aristocats"
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9352
Thanks for that interesting read Barbossa! Much appreciated! I often miss out on such great articles

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:18 am
by Christopher_TCUIH
I know the mere mention of DVD is enough to make most of you gag, but can someone please tell me if the DVD for this set updates the restoration or is it the same transfer from 2008?

Thanks in advance,
Christopher :)

ps Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:11 am
by Lnds500
Christopher_TCUIH wrote:I know the mere mention of DVD is enough to make most of you gag, but can someone please tell me if the DVD for this set updates the restoration or is it the same transfer from 2008?

Thanks in advance,
Christopher :)

ps Happy Thanksgiving!
From the review
The DVD doesn't seem to update the Special Edition transfer, which gives us 1.75:1 framing and the '80s/'90s Walt Disney Pictures castle at the start of the film (the Blu-ray preserves the original Buena Vista card). The Blu-ray offers clear improvement over the Special Edition DVD's already clearly improved presentation.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:34 am
by Christopher_TCUIH
Thank you so much! :)

What a shame they couldn't update the DVD. The Aristocats must have Alice in Wonderland syndrome. Oh well, that's one less thing on my list.

Thanks again!