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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:34 pm 
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Once again, Catmull proves he doesn't know what he's talking about. Pixar's acquisition by Disney was announced in January 2006 and finalized in May 2006. Therefore his "17 years" comment would mean that he doesn't consider any movie after The Little Mermaid a success. I guess Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King were flops to him. :lol:

His pathetic attempt to exaggerate the number of years so people will be more impressed that he and Lasseter "saved" Disney is laughable.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:36 pm 
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17 years? Like Lion, Mermaid, Beauty, Aladdin, and Tarzan? Give me a break :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:27 pm 
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Once again, Catmull proves he doesn't know what he's talking about. Pixar's acquisition by Disney was announced in January 2006 and was finalized in May 2006. Therefore his "17 years" comment would mean that he doesn't consider any movie after The Little Mermaid a success. I guess Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King were flops to him. :lol:

His pathetic attempt to exaggerate the number of years so people will be more impressed that he and Lasseter "saved" Disney is laughable.


You know that line about absolute power corrupting absolutely? Right here! Ed and John!

I feel like in the 90's and early 2000's when they were little nobodies putting it all on the line with Toy Story, A Bug's Life and such, they were more worth supporting. Since they've become the face of Disney Animation and possibly the most powerful force in animation today, they're kind of jerks. They disappoint me so much.

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I can’t remember, when were they officially acquired? Around 2008? There was Lilo & Stitch and then Tarzan in 1998 back to Mermaid in 1989…. If those films were failures, why does Lasseter keep trying to get his name onto those films to re-write history as if he had been a part of them?


Because the success of Disney's renaissance is often attributed to Jeffrey Katzenberg. He probably doesn't want to acknowledge one of his bitter rivals.

Also, Lasseter was fired from Disney in 1983, which was what led to the founding of Pixar three years later. It's sad to think that he would've preferred to have been at Disney this whole time instead of launching his own business, and influencing Disney from the outside.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:08 am 
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God no, Lasseter influencing the Renaissance. :roll: The films would be nothing but the funny sidekicks going on wacky road trips. And get rid of that icky romance as well, since it's just disturbing the buddy comedy. :P


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:51 am 
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Lasseter and Catmull...Making Disney Great Again! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:25 am 
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Lasseter and Catmull are at it again. :glare:

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Catmull, who until recently was a member of the visual effects branch, was not eligible under Academy rules to run this year for the animation branch’s Board of Governors. Cartoon Brew has learned that he became able to do so only after Academy president Cheryl Boone Isaacs and Disney/Pixar chief creative officer John Lasseter made a personal appeal to the animation branch’s executive board, pressuring them to give a special waiver to Catmull, so that he could switch immediately from the visual effects branch into the animation branch.
Source: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/rapid ... 51944.html

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:34 pm 
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Oh, look. Another article painting Lasseter as the savior of Disney animation. :roll:


John Lasseter: The man who saved Walt Disney Animation
http://gulfnews.com/life-style/celebrit ... -1.2062431

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“It’s hard work what we do but we don’t take the easy route. We don’t just carbon copy another sequel with exactly the same story just to print money. We throw it out, we start from scratch and we get a new emotional heart,” he said. “And we want to say something to the world that is meaningful.”


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If that's true then can he explain WiR 2 & Frozen 2? Surely you aren't doing them for the sake of story, your only doing Frozen 2 to make another Billion in sales & merch & WiR 2 to exploit the company's other billion $ properties, Disney Princess/Star Wars/Oh My Disney, ect. Meanwhile, you killed your only original IP Gigantic and have nothing new in the pipeline going forward. Oh, and Pixar's Cars 3 is possibly the biggest box office bomb next to The Good Dinosaur. This doesn't sound like someone who "Saved" Disney Animation. This sounds like someone who exploited it & turned it in to DreamWorks Animation :lol:


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John Lasseter to be Honored at The Walt Disney Family Museum 2017 Gala
http://thedisneyblog.com/2017/08/16/joh ... 2017-gala/


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:36 am 
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Under Lasseter, WDAS made more sequels than ever before. :-"

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I'm proud of Disney for making original content. There are a few franchises that feed our theme parks and merchandizing outlets, but original content is our primary mission.
Source: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017- ... 646518.htm

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I can't help thinking he sounds like the U.S. president. They both say the exact opposite of what's happening to deflect from and dilute the truth. At least Lasseter only does it about inconsequential nonsense (in the scheme of things)... For now. Maybe Iger isn't the only one with political aspirations. :huh: :huh: :huh:

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Disney's Divinity wrote:
I can't help thinking he sounds like the U.S. president. They both say the exact opposite of what's happening to deflect from and dilute the truth. At least Lasseter only does it about inconsequential nonsense (in the scheme of things)... For now. Maybe Iger isn't the only one with political aspirations. :huh: :huh: :huh:

Lol that's a very apt observation.


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Disney's Divinity wrote:
I can't help thinking he sounds like the U.S. president. They both say the exact opposite of what's happening to deflect from and dilute the truth. At least Lasseter only does it about inconsequential nonsense (in the scheme of things)... For now. Maybe Iger isn't the only one with political aspirations. :huh: :huh: :huh:


:lol: I'm trying to imagine what a Lasseter-ruled White House would be like. I suppose the oval office would be full of Luxo Lamps and the staff would all be required to wear Hawaian shirts so that they all look happy. :P


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"Make Disney animation great again!"

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I stumbled upon this today and I found it interesting how Lasseter's people forced the director of the cancelled Dwarves movie to change everything about it. The facts that the exes purposefully said "Screw Walt" to the fact that Walt 100% confirmed Dopey has never spoken and the "Kids won't notice" attitude are insulting. Makes me think if this is what happened to Gigantic and caused Greno to leave the studio.

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As for Dwarfs… Lasseter’s “people” liked it! Disa and Spiliotopoulos pitched the film to the Pixar creatives. “Believe it or not, we were told the new regime liked it a great deal,” says Disa. “They loved the film and our approach to it.” Still, Lasseter needed to see more of the project before he could sign on to it.
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Disa gathered DisneyToon staff to show the latest reels and storyboards for Dwarfs. “They were getting raves,” he recalls. “People were laughing and saying they were the best stuff being done at DisneyToons.” One reel that was especially well-received involved Grumpy’s introduction to Dopey. As they begin their quest, Grumpy cannot stand Dopey’s wacky antics, becoming more frustrated while Dopey, without speaking a word, engages in Buster Keaton-inspired physical humor.

But the fun was about to end. Disa received a phone call from one of the development execs. The individual, whom Disa declines to name, had a note for Dwarfs: “Make Dopey talk.”

Disa could muster only one word as a response: “What?”

“We have to make Dopey talk,” the exec repeated.
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For Dwarfs, the exec believed Dopey should be raised to leading man status.

“We think we need to make the story about Dopey,” the exec continued. “We’ll keep your story, but we want the movie to mainly be about how Dopey lost the ability to talk.”

“How Dopey lost the ability to talk?” responded Disa. “You mean he’s been wounded?!”

“Well, maybe not physically. Maybe just emotionally.”

“But Walt said that Dopey could talk, he just didn’t.”

“We think that’s an old-fashioned idea,” said the exec. “So, we want to tell the story of how Dopey had an emotional trauma that keeps him from talking.”

“Are you saying you want me to come up with some way that, at the end of the film, Dopey gets scarred emotionally and doesn’t talk?” asked Disa.

“No, no, no,” the exec answered. “We should do it at the beginning. Like, maybe Dopey should watch his mother die or something.”

Disa was horrified that the famously happy-go-lucky Dopey was about to not only get a tragic back-story, but the standard Disney one in which a protagonist loses a parent. But unlike what he did to Dopey’s mother, the exec wouldn’t let the idea die. He was adamant that Dwarfs be, as Disa describes, “a light comedy where the comic lead is traumatized into becoming a mute by watching his mother die in the first act, and then goes on an unrelated carefree adventure with his friends.”

The discussion soon moved to a conference room inside Disney’s Frank Wells Building. Several execs attended the meeting, all of whom agreed that a tragic back-story for Dopey was a great opening act for Dwarfs. They also believed the original pitch for Dwarfs was a tad too dark, wanting the movie to offer laughs from beginning to end. Disa disagreed that the movie could start with Dopey as the light-hearted comic lead everyone wanted while simultaneously showing his mother’s death traumatizing him into becoming a mute. According to Disa, the responses ranged from, “Well, you don’t have to be dark about it,” to, “Introduce the comedy and then slip in the mother thing. Kids won’t notice.”

The execs waited for Disa to respond. They needed a decision soon, if they were going to pitch the new version of Dwarfs to Lasseter. “So, what do you think?” they asked.

“I literally said, ‘You’re out of your [expletive] mind! I am not walking into John Lasseter’s office and pitching him The Dopey’s Too Emotionally-Scarred To Talk Movie!'”

According to Disa, their response was simple: “You should go think about it for a while. We’ll come up with some treatments.”

“I was like, ‘You can come up with whatever you want. I’m not doing that.'”
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“The deal in Hollywood is clear: You present a vision for a film. The execs at one company or another hire you to make that vision. The process of executing that vision is collaborative, and the project usually improves from input and critique,” says Disa. “But when a studio changes their mind and doesn’t want that story anymore, then a professional puts away his ego, carefully considers the new direction, and looks in himself to see if he has any real passion for the new idea. If not, then the director should gracefully excuse himself with as little drama as possible and move on to a project he can get excited about.


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I've always imagined Disney and Lasseter, too, greenlight a person's ideas liking the concept without much devotion to plot/characters, which they twist however they please. Especially with Lasseter around, the word "director" is a meaningless title because they have little control over anything.

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No, it's the other way around.

Did Disney Ruin Pixar?
https://decider.com/2017/12/07/did-disney-ruin-pixar/

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Sotiris wrote:
No, it's the other way around.

Did Disney Ruin Pixar?
https://decider.com/2017/12/07/did-disney-ruin-pixar/


*sigh* :facepalm:

One thing that nobody else seems to understand besides us folk here is that The Walt Disney Company and Walt Disney Animation Studios are not the same thing. :brick:

That means that The Walt Disney Company in general is always credited for WDAS' achievements even if generally irrelevant to it and WDAS is continually assumed to have committed any less-than-savoury acts carried out by completely separate departments at the rest of The Walt Disney Company.

Surely I can't be the only one who is insanely annoyed by this. We need to start handing out supplemental brain cells. :P


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:22 pm 
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No, it's the other way around.

Did Disney Ruin Pixar?
https://decider.com/2017/12/07/did-disney-ruin-pixar/
Disney may have ate PIXAR, but its PIXAR employees who took over WDAS. Of course PIXAR is too special so they're never at fault for anything. :roll:

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