Sorry for my late reply, unfortunately I forgot to answer.
JeanGreyForever wrote:
Playing promiscuous roles in films isn't really an issue for me, with special emphasis on "playing." Kathleen Turner can be accused of the same thing as Demi Moore and she plays Jessica Rabbit so would you say that she also shouldn't have been hired for the role?
Fair enough, but there's a difference of how promiscuous you can be, if it's done in a tasteful, compelling way or if it's done in an opposite way. Sorry if I came across as sexist.
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Esmeralda is generally well-liked, but I just noticed on this thread that there is a particular dislike of heroines like her and Jasmine. Anya isn't talked about much here, but I've seen a lot of people accuse her of similar traits and of course Ariel has her huge share of detractors as well.
I've noticed the dislike towards Jasmine, but not so much about Esmeralda. I used to like Esmeralda a lot when I was a kid, but she's also hampered by a couple of flaws that decreases her credibility (irking Frollo, kissing Quasi on the cheek in a manipulative way and hiding Phoebus in a place that he could've been most likely found). But I don't hate her completely, because she does a couple of redeemable things after all.
Interesting that you mention Anya, because I don't see so much hate towards her. But I
love her personality and I think she truly outshines most of Disney's Princesses. And she's we're talking about strong non-Disney characters, I also like Tzipporah from
The Prince of Egypt. Some people find her a Esmeralda-rip off, but I think she's done well.
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So you're saying that you just found Jasmine to be underutilized and more bark than bite on how she isn't a prize to be won, rather than proving it herself with a substantial role in the film? That I can understand. Once more, as an Ariel fan, I automatically gravitate towards Jasmine as well so I've never found her bland. I do remember critics saying that Jasmine felt regressive after Belle because she ended up playing a role more like Ariel. She's a secondary character though so I'm not too bothered by that.
Perhaps bland isn't the right word to describe Jasmine, but as you said, compared to Belle she feels more regressive, since Belle was more proactive, regardless of what could've been said about her.
But Jasmine's hatred is still not as huge as Ariel's, which even baffled Nostalgia Critic/Doug Walker and even me at times. Though I'm certainly not a Jasmine hater, I understand why people find her assertive nature off-putting. Mostly because she does come across as somewhat snappy and bratty at times, though you still can sympathize with her. Yet despite that I used to criticize Ariel in the past, I prefer her to Jasmine, actually, mainly because Ariel isn't neither snappy nor bratty in an off-putting way.