The National Film Registry

[Disney's Divinity]

Yes, I was reading that through "Sleeping Beauty"'s and the "1959 in film"'s Wikipedia pages, so I'm not really sure? It does say the number comes from distributor's share of the gross only. *shrug*

[JeanGreyForever]

As most people are aware, Sleeping Beauty was considered a failure during its first run. Walt Disney himself would have felt satisfied that at least the future would give it some recognition.

I'm glad that after Walt's passing, the company still give recognition to his films that were considered commercial failures and thus breathed new life into them, granting them the classic status. I only wish Disney would continue to do the same for their more recent films, mainly Hunchback, but even a few others like Treasure Planet. This revisionist history that Disney's last great film before Tangled or Frozen was The Lion King has really hurt their legacy imo.

[Farerb]

Shrek Has Been Inducted Into the National Film Registry
https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/nationa ... shrek.html


There are seven animated films I would have put there before Shrek

[Avaitor]

Yeah, I like Shrek and all, but I would've put The Jungle Book and The Nightmare Before Christmas in here before it.

[Disney's Divinity]

I think Aladdin was inducted a year or two ago, right? It's hard for me to remember everything that's been inducted prior. I think The Little Mermaid, One Hundred and One Dalmatians, and The Nightmare Before Christmas all deserve it. I do think Shrek has cultural value--for better or worse--so I'm not really complaining about that. I think all these films will be inducted eventually, if later than they deserved (mostly because animated films aren't treated equal to live-action films in the industry)

[rodrigo_ca]

There are seventy animated films I would put there before Shrek

[Sotiris]

I get what everyone is saying about Shrek, but the National Film Registry isn't just about quality. It's also about cultural or historical significance. And whether we like it or not Shrek was significant.

[Disney Duster]

I think Aladdin was inducted a year or two ago, right? It's hard for me to remember everything that's been inducted prior. I think The Little Mermaid, One Hundred and One Dalmatians, and The Nightmare Before Christmas all deserve it. I do think Shrek has cultural value--for better or worse--so I'm not really complaining about that. I think all these films will be inducted eventually, if later than they deserved (mostly because animated films aren't treated equal to live-action films in the industry)

Aladdin has yet to make it in.

I get what everyone is saying about Shrek, but the National Film Registry isn't just about quality. It's also about cultural or historical significance. And whether we like it or not Shrek was significant.

True.

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm surprised Aladdin wasn't inducedt in the years following Robin Williams' death actually. The only thing weird about Shrek getting in before those films is that it's a film that mocks those films... Wouldn't they have more cultural value having been the film's inspiration?

[Sotiris]

It is strange Aladdin hasn't been inducted yet. I figured it was because of the controversy surrounding the film, but checking the NFR database I found they've included much more controversial and problematic work, so that can't the reason. It turns out a lot of important WDAS films have yet to be inducted such as Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Lady and the Tramp, The Jungle Book, 101 Dalmatians, and The Little Mermaid.

[Farerb]

Hence why I said 7 films (including 101 Dalmatians).

[estefan]

Shrek is actually the first non-Disney animated feature to be inducted into the National Film Registry. So maybe this is the first step towards including other animated films beyond those produced by Disney. Fritz the Cat seems like an obvious candidate for the future. Maybe The Secret of NIMH, An American Tail and Chicken Run, too.

[Disney's Divinity]

I thought Toy Story had been inducted.

[D82]

^It was. estefan was probably including it as a Disney film since it's actually owned by Disney. These are all the animated films that have been added to the Registry so far by order of induction:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - 1989
Fantasia - 1990
Pinocchio - 1994
Beauty and the Beast - 2002
Toy Story - 2005
Bambi - 2011
The Lion King - 2016
Dumbo - 2017
Cinderella - 2018
Sleeping Beauty - 2019
Shrek - 2020

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Film_Registry


And here are all the films from Disney including live-action, shorts and documentaries: https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/National_Film_Registry

[blackcauldron85]

Speaking of Shrek, I'm reading some old 'stuff' on the Internet, and *just* came across this (about predictions for 2001 animated films' box office):

https://www.awn.com/animationworld/movie-movie
Monday, January 1, 2001

Shrek (DreamWorks/PDI). Projected release: May, 2001. This tale of a chubby green ogre who fights on the side of justice has had achoppy production history. The ogre's original voice, Chris Farley died. Another major character, the princess, was to be voiced by Jeanane Garofalo but she left the project. Director Kelly Asbury literally switched horses and ended up on DreamWork's Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron instead. Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz eventually filled the vacated voice roles, and a co-directing team consisting of Andrew Adamson and Victoria Jenson finally took the reins. Eddie Murphy signed on as the voice of an ill-tempered but loyal donkey, and Shrek soldiered on into its fourth year of production. Animation insiders indicate that DreamWorks recently killed their plans for showing the film in IMAX widescreen 3D format, due to the additional production costs. The only question that remains is, will this movie be worth all the effort? There are many good reasons why the film should do well, but in watching the trailer, I somehow came away with the impression that Shrek might not fulfill expectations. To begin with, there were far too many in-jokes aimed at Disney, Eddie Murphy's shtick sounded distressingly familiar, and the fairy-tale setting seemed antiquated. Finally, the CGI-generated characters did not look especially notable, Shrek in particular. The audiences will ultimately decide, but don't be surprised if this film turns out to be the Dark Crystal of 2001. Predicted gross: $26 million.

[D82]

^It's funny how wrong the person who wrote that article was. He predicted Atlantis would gross $107 million and Shrek just $26 million.

[estefan]

It is fascinating reading those predictions. But predictions are allowed to be wrong, so I'm not going to make fun of him. I'm sure the writer himself probably thinks back and goes "woah, I really underestimated Shrek's appeal."

He was definitely confident on Osmosis Jones and The Powerpuff Girls Movie, although in the writer's defense, the show was popular when the article was published and he couldn't have foreseen Warner Bros giving the movie so little marketing.

[D82]

It is fascinating reading those predictions. But predictions are allowed to be wrong, so I'm not going to make fun of him. I'm sure the writer himself probably thinks back and goes "woah, I really underestimated Shrek's appeal."

You're right, I'm sorry I made fun of him.

[Sotiris]

You're right, I'm sorry I made fun of him.

But you didn't make fun of him. You just pointed the irony in his prediction. You have nothing to apologize for.

[Disney's Divinity]

If only his predictions in regards to Atlantis and Shrek had been right. The animated landscape would probably be better these days.