blackcauldron85 wrote:
I didn't mention the "I'm angry" scene regarding its humor, just that I like her character growth, that she's allowing herself to feel emotions. I think that Andalasia is obviously kind of a parody of the other princess' kingdoms, so maybe Andalasia is so idyllic that they don't get angry there, or Giselle is so happy that she doesn't...but I personally have never felt that the movie is trying to dig at Snow White, Cinderella, or Aurora.
I don't consider the film a dig at the classics either, it was definitely no Shrek but a loving tribute. However, that anger scene seemed very stereotypical and based on a very narrow-minded view of classic Disney.
Disney Duster wrote:
I agree with both JeanGreyForever and farerb! I actually do like the "I'm angry" scene but I also dislike what it's saying about all the Walt princesses. I also think Ariel was the first feminist princess. Consider that men like Prince Phillip risked his life for love. Ariel did the same thing. Three times actually. Saving Eric from drowning, risking her "life" or freedom to Ursula for a chance to be with him, and then pulling Ursula's hair when she fired a him.
I actually consider Cinderella to have defeated Lady Tremaine, just with the power of the monarchy also aiding her.
I agree with all the rest you said.
I'm glad you think Ariel is the first feminist princess! Although I really do dislike how people dismiss the classic three princesses and don't feel that they could have any feminist qualities whatsoever but as a whole, I think Ariel is definitely the start of a more progressive trend. And yes, it was very empowering to see the princess save her prince not just once, but multiple times. However, I don't quite understand what you mean about "risking her 'life' or freedom to Ursula for a chance to be with him." How exactly did that save him? Just a little confused about that.
And yes, I agree that Cinderella is the first Disney Princess to have defeated her villain. People tend to disregard that though or not see it that way.