I guess that true as that movie really heavily christain based. I'll give you points on that.Disney Duster wrote:I know that you think her killing people instantly in one sweep would be a sign of her being pure evil, but remember this is a Christian-based concept of evil. And Christianity teaches that evil, first of all, isn't as powerful as good, and second of all, that evil doesn't directly kill. Evil makes people do evil things, or whatever.
Then when the faires said she "too powerful" You would assume she can kill whether staff or anything.Disney Duster wrote: Maleficent just doesn't seem to be able to kill with her staff. Her lightning can hurt people, but she needs a curse or a dragon-form to kill, it seems. Or she could just be having fun.
problem was that the faries change it to a sleep instead. So while the curse it self still isn't the greatest, it's better than a death curse. So the worries is more relaxed. Besides Malificant seems to be the one "tortured" in which she has to waste her time searching for the baby in "wrath and frustration"Disney Duster wrote:AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT, MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe she could kill instantly, but didn't want to. She wants to TORTURE the King and Queen for not inviting her. Think about it. You live 16 year waiting for your child to die. Every happy moment of seeing your child giggle or learn her first words is crushed knowing she will never live past 16.
That and I think I read too much Koroshiya Ichi and Berserk in what torture probably means.....
Disney Duster wrote: And with her being their only daughter, and with them having difficulty to get a daughter in the first place (they prayed for a child for a long time before they got her), that's torture.
I thought Sex did that?
True but depends on what kind of torture you're talking about. Also killing can be worse than torture too depending onDisney Duster wrote:And in my opinion, torture is way more evil than instant, quick death.
People love her, but does that means she qualitfies as an excellent villian?Lazario wrote: Okay. But I disagree. And like I was trying to say, she was still very effective. People loved her. Still do.
People love Sponge Bob, does that qualitfies as an excellent fictional character?
Maybe my expectations are bit too high since I love fiction and looking ing different character's traits and depths and fact that I'm judging this based on disney film(which is family orinated). But never less if i'm going make a judgement on something than I will.Lazario wrote:I need to ask you a question - are you looking for literary qualities in these characters? Because I think she succeeds based on personality and style of the production. I think maybe your expectations might be too high.
You're the one who disagreed with my list so, I'm providing you reason Why I thought so.Lazario wrote:Wonderful... if only the movie mattered more, I might care. Sorry.
Challenging? All I was doing was stating why I didn't fond Malificant a great villian. You're the one who jump the gun over my opinion.Lazario wrote:Well, I'm not the one challenging classic villains.