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 Post subject: Re: Apple to Buy Disney?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 am 
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Apples buys Disney, and suddenly iPhones, iPads, apple computers and apple-TV are the only devices you can watch Disney's streaming services on.


And you can kiss physical releases on blu-ray goodbye. To this day Macintosh computers do not officially support blu-ray drives. I doubt there'd be newfound love for the format with Apple at the helm.

To quote the-guy-with-the-moustache (bear with me lol :lol: ) in The Sword in the Stone:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:04 am 
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Keep in mind this is only one analyst suggesting this. Doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. And with everyone being affected by the coronavirus, I feel like these massive companies have a bit more on their mind right now than gobbling up other companies. The article mentions Disney being seriously affected by the virus, but Apple won't be doing too great, either, as their stores have shut down for the time being. Apple's shares actually fell pretty sharply yesterday.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:11 am 
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Does Bob C. have power...or does Bob I. still hold pretty much all the power?

Considering that Bob Chapek still reports to Bob Iger, I'd say Iger is still in power. Well, at least until his contract expires and exits the company at the end of 2021.

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 Post subject: Re: Apple to Buy Disney?
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Keep in mind this is only one analyst suggesting this. Doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. And with everyone being affected by the coronavirus, I feel like these massive companies have a bit more on their mind right now than gobbling up other companies. The article mentions Disney being seriously affected by the virus, but Apple won't be doing too great, either, as their stores have shut down for the time being. Apple's shares actually fell pretty sharply yesterday.


But Apple's stock is still far better than Disney's. I've also heard that Apple will reopen its stores in China very soon, as the COVID-19 situation there seems to be stabilizing.


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I hope Apple doesn't take advantage of the situation.

Disney's Credit Rating Downgraded by Fitch Over Virus Impact
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ct-1285280

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Sotiris wrote:
I hope Apple doesn't take advantage of the situation.

Disney's Credit Rating Downgraded by Fitch Over Virus Impact
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ct-1285280


I don't know exactly how this is working.. But is there a situation in which Disney would have no other choice left but to be bought, except the obvious one ?


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It would be truly DISTASTEFUL for Disney to be bought by a company like Apple.


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 Post subject: Re: Apple to Buy Disney?
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Apple also closed all their stores and with Amazon warehouse workers testing positive they're bound to decrease their value as well. I don't really think this is the time to make an offer for something as big as Disney, much less plan a hostile takeover.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:34 am 
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Apple also closed all their stores and with Amazon warehouse workers testing positive they're bound to decrease their value as well. I don't really think this is the time to make an offer for something as big as Disney, much less plan a hostile takeover.


If memory serves, I believe that Apple is going to reopen its stores in China soon now that the situation there has more or less stabilized, so there's that.


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Disney is trying to raise cash to weather the crisis.

Disney Outlines Risks To Business, Plans To Raise Fresh Cash
https://deadline.com/2020/03/disney-ris ... 202887541/

Disney Seeks To Raise $6B In Fresh Cash With Sale Of Debt Securities
https://deadline.com/2020/03/disney-sel ... 202888933/

Disney Raises $1.3 Billion in New Debt in Canada
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... da-1286934

Disney Enters Into New $5 Billion Credit Agreement
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... nt-1290118

Disney Raises $11 Billion in New Debt
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... bt-1294131

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^ I had posted one of those in the Bob Chapek thread (but just erased it since you posted it here), asking if anyone understands what all that means, in layman's terms. What are these notes; who's buying them? Is it like a savings bond?

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Yes, they're like savings bonds, but issued by corporations instead of the government. Their function is pretty much the same.

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Will corporations or individual people buy them? And is there a benefit to the buyer? Besides just supporting Disney? Like they'll get 1.5 times their $ back?

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I believe anyone can buy them, including other corporations. Investors are paid a pre-determined number of interest payments until the bonds expire; that's when the payments end and the original investment is returned. How much profit they make depends on the interest rate which can either be fixed or fluctuating. Corporate bonds are generally considered a safe investment, especially from big companies like Disney. Are you planning on buying some, Amy? :P

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 Post subject: Re: Apple to Buy Disney?
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^ Are they buying shares of Disney stock? And noooo! I own one share of Disney stock I bought in '04 or '05 maybe for about $30 and I have a 401(k) but that's as far as I go! I just know this is a big thing but I'm trying to understand it. (And thanks for trying to help me understand!!!)

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Stocks and bonds are not the same thing. With stocks you own a share of a business whereas with bonds you're essentially just lending them money. Stocks are riskier because stock value is volatile and you can easily lose money whereas with bonds, even in the case of bankruptcy, you rarely do. The drawback is that there's less profit to be made with bonds as they're usually on a fixed interest rate.

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Things are not looking good for Disney. Their stock keeps getting downgraded.

Disney Stock Sinks Over 9% as Wall Street Gives Away Trump Gains
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-stock-si ... ump-gains/

Disney Stock Slips on Downgrades From Credit Suisse, UB
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-stock-sl ... uisse-ubs/

Disney Downgraded by S&P Over Concerns Parks Business Will Be Slow to Recover
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-s-p-downgraded/

Disney Stock Price Target Lowered by Morgan Stanley Analyst
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... st-1287886

Disney Stock Downgraded Over Dim Theme Parks Forecast
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... st-1289125

Bearish Disney Analyst Warns Investors Over Long-Term COVID-19 Impact
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ct-1290335

Disney Stock Downgraded as Analyst Warns of "Unrivaled Earnings Risk" Due to Pandemic
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ic-1293056

Disney Stock Downgraded to "Sell" Over Coronavirus Impact
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ct-1293314

Disney Gets Analyst Downgrade: "The Stock Has Risen Too Far Too Fast"
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... st-1296197

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 Post subject: Re: Apple to Buy Disney?
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Before your last explanation post to me, I emailed my dad to ask him what it all means. He said, "The corporate debt notes are similar to bonds where they sell them and offer interest to the buyers for a specific time period. It is a quick way for corporations to raise money.
They get interest. Same reason people buy bonds, have CDs or even savings accounts.
They get a paper, something like an IOU. Disney promises to make interest payments on their investment per the terms of the note."

I think between the two of you, I understand it more now. Thank you!!

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Apple Posts Record Services Revenue of $13.3 Billion, Beats Lowered Wall Street Expectations
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/a ... 234594565/

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 Post subject: Re: Apple to Buy Disney?
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I wonder if the fact that Disney risked a lot on Disney+ for long-term gain may have made the impact on the company deeper during the Coronavirus pandemic? I know I remember reading that they would be losing money on Disney+ for at least the first 5-6 years.

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