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Sotiris wrote:I wonder if this is Disney's way to make a statement on refugees and immigration.
I hadn't made that connection before, but their situation described in the prologue does read as somewhat of a metaphor of that. The film's release is well-timed to be connected to that kind of theme then. Same as Raya's unity message earlier this year.
That's a good theory. I can see Mirabel needing to find something in each world/bedroom with the help of the person who lives there. Maybe that's where Bruno comes in. Maybe she will need to track him down and bring him back to find something in his bedroom.
It does remind of Raya going into each territory looking for a shard. I could see it being how this film will work considering how many other things it's taking from the past few films. In fact, part of Raya was how Sisu / Raya treated each group as part of one family. Hence the poster of the group all gathered around one table as if at a family dinner.
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Sotiris wrote:I know that, D82. And don't worry. No one is getting canceled. I was simply ticked off at farerb in the moment because he pulled the same stunt before. But I regret making that comment. It was out of line. And as a moderator, I need to hold myself to a higher standard and set a good example for others. I was actually preparing to respond to some of the new information you posted about Encanto when I got sidetracked. I will be posting it shortly and hopefully that will get the thread back on track.
It's true that moderators should try to set a good example, but you're human like everyone else, so it's understandable that sometimes something like this could happen. I appreciate you admitting your mistake and apologizing for it. Yes, let's get back on track. :)

First of all, maybe we should put a spoiler warning at the beginning of our posts. I know the info we're talking about is probably from just the first 10 or 15 minutes of the movie and is likely to be revealed soon in trailers and other promotional material, but I know some members had chosen to avoid knowing the content of those first chapters of the Russian books and I think we should respect that. So, here's my warning:

From this point forward this post contains spoilers from the beginning of the movie.
Sotiris wrote:Perhaps Bruno will have that ability. Or now that we know that Alma doesn't have light-related powers and the candle is the source of the magic, maybe the hourglass doesn't correspond to someone's abilities either. Perhaps it simply foreshadows that there will be a race against time. That what was broken that's affecting Encanto's magic needs to be fixed by X number of days or hours.
With the info we have now, I think if someone can control time, it must be Bruno. The hourglass foreshadowing a race against time sounds possible, but remember that the hourglass is also featured on the door along the symbols that represent all the other powers. It's true that the candle is also there, but it's in the middle surrounded by all the other elements, which could symbolize that its magic is at the centre of everything, while the hourglass is near the bottom.
Sotiris wrote:There's no way they'll make a biological family member the villain. They don't have the cojones do that. I think he will be integral in restoring the magic and will probably assist Mirabel in her quest in a significant way.
They made the protagonist's uncle the villain in The Lion King, but you're probably right they wouldn't do the same now. Actually, I didn't think he could be a traditional villain but a redeemed one. However, I now think it's also possible he's role will be helping Mirabel in her quest, or that Mirabel's mission will be finding him in order to restore the magic, as you said.
Sotiris wrote:Probably. Perhaps a civil war or a coup of some kind. Maybe the place they used to live was overrun by gangs and corruption. I wonder if this is Disney's way to make a statement on refugees and immigration.
Yeah, it's probably something like that. I wondered the same too when I read that part. It's quite possible that's their intention.
Sotiris wrote:I believe Mirabel did in fact receive a gift. That's why she's able to see the cracks no one else can. Her gift was invisible because the circumstances that would activate it hadn't come to pass yet.
That's a good theory. Although, she's still sleeping in the nursery with Antonio at the beginning of the movie and doesn't have her own room. If she received a gift, she should've gotten a new room as well, right? Or could her bedroom be invisible too?
Sotiris wrote:I'm assuming the love song will be for Alma and Pedro or for one of the other adult couples. I don't see them giving a romance subplot to any of the siblings or the cousins.
The fact they said Lin wanted it to sound like a song "that had been around for a hundred years" makes me think it's going to be for Alma and Pedro. I also think it's probably one of the two songs entirely in Spanish.
Sotiris wrote:That's a good theory. I can see Mirabel needing to find something in each world/bedroom with the help of the person who lives there. Maybe that's where Bruno comes in. Maybe she will need to track him down and bring him back to find something in his bedroom.
That's possible. I wonder what object or thing they would need to find, though.
Sotiris wrote:I also thought he could have gotten lost in his bedroom or perhaps chose to live there alone permanently like a hermit, indicated by his disheveled appearance, but you make a good point that his bedroom window looks abandoned. If he has indeed left Casita and Encanto, the big question is why. What could have possibly been the reason to abandon his family and such an idyllic place like Encanto? Did he want to travel the world or make it out on his own?
I think the most likely reason for him leaving the house would be an argument over something or some strong disagreement with the rest of the family or some member in particular. I heard a very interesting theory on Youtube the other day that also seems plausible. They thought Bruno could've travelled back in time to prevent his father's death. That could explain too why the magic is disappearing; if Pedro hadn't died, Alma wouldn't have prayed with the candle in her hands and the Encanto and it's magic wouldn't exist. That wouldn't make Bruno a complete villain; just someone obsessed with bringing his father back. I think that theory could very well turn out to be true, but I don't know, the powers of the other family members aren't that powerful. I think he'll most likely can just go some minutes back in time, can see things about the near future, freeze time for some minutes or something like that, but maybe he has found a way to augment his powers?
Sotiris wrote:It's not. Meet the Robinsons did that first.
It's true. They've done that more than once. They act as if certain movie didn't exist when it suits them.
Sotiris wrote:I prefer that too, but I think there will be songs in Spanglish as well.
Yeah, I'm sure of that.
Sotiris wrote:The thing is, Pedro looks much older in the portrait compared to that family tree illustration. If he died young, then why is he portrayed in this way? Could he still be alive and growing older inside the portrait? Is he trapped in there? Is it possible his soul merged with or was transferred to the candle and that's why the magical house is so protective of the Madrigals?
That's a very interesting theory. It makes a lot of sense. Although, him looking different in the portrait could be due to the artbook cover being a concept art. Characters sometimes look different in them, either because they feature an earlier version of their design or due to the artist's own style. Anyway, even not counting that element, that theory could still be possible.
Sotiris wrote:Maybe he was an author. His entire character seems like an allusion to Gabriel García Márquez.
That didn't occur to me. It makes a lot of sense as well. The butterflies are also an homage to Gabriel García Márquez, so if they have something to do with Pedro as we suspect, that would be another reason to think the character is an allusion to the Colombian author.
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D82 wrote:It's true that the candle is also there, but it's in the middle surrounded by all the other elements, which could symbolize that its magic is at the centre of everything, while the hourglass is near the bottom.
That's true. It's more likely the hourglass corresponds to a family member's powers.
D82 wrote:Actually, I didn't think he could be a traditional villain but a redeemed one.
I could see Bruno being the black sheep of the family or the prodigal son, if you will. That would be another religious element to go along with the miracle of the candle. I'm certain Mirabel will convince him to come back and rejoin the family in the end. I'm not sure if that counts as a redeemed villain though. I suppose it depends on the reason he left the family and whether he did anything selfish or morally questionable.
D82 wrote:Or could her bedroom be invisible too?
Perhaps her room will appear after she fulfills her destiny and restores the magic in Encanto.
D82 wrote:The fact they said Lin wanted it to sound like a song "that had been around for a hundred years" makes me think it's going to be for Alma and Pedro. I also think it's probably one of the two songs entirely in Spanish.
I think so too. I wonder if it's going to be a lullaby like Remember Me that gains different meaning depending on who sings it. For example, when Pedro sings it to Alma, it's about romantic love and when Alma sings it to her children, it becomes about familial love.
D82 wrote:I think the most likely reason for him leaving the house would be an argument over something or some strong disagreement with the rest of the family or some member in particular.
If he had a fight with a family member, it was probably his mom. She's the matriarch and keeper of the flame, after all.
D82 wrote:I heard a very interesting theory on Youtube the other day that also seems plausible. They thought Bruno could've travelled back in time to prevent his father's death. That could explain too why the magic is disappearing; if Pedro hadn't died, Alma wouldn't have prayed with the candle in her hands and the Encanto and it's magic wouldn't exist. That wouldn't make Bruno a complete villain; just someone obsessed with bringing his father back. I think that theory could very well turn out to be true, but I don't know, the powers of the other family members aren't that powerful.
I don't know. It doesn't seem likely to me. While it's cool and all, it sounds something out of a superhero movie. And while WDAS has dabbled with time travel before in Meet the Robinsons, I don't think they would do this here. Time travel is something more closely associated with sci-fi than fantasy and in stories with contemporary or futuristic settings. Besides, if Bruno has already changed the past and that's the reason Mirabel sees the cracks in the house, how is she supposed to undo that? It just seems too complicated.
D82 wrote:I think he'll most likely can just go some minutes back in time, can see things about the near future, freeze time for some minutes or something like that, but maybe he has found a way to augment his powers?
I think it's more likely he can just freeze time. That way he can give Mirabel the time needed to save the day and prevent the "infection" from spreading and completely destroying Casita.
D82 wrote:The butterflies are also an homage to Gabriel García Márquez, so if they have something to do with Pedro as we suspect, that would be another reason to think the character is an allusion to the Colombian author.
That's right. By the way, I was reading that in Colombia it's customary for people to have two surnames with the first one being the paternal surname and the second one the maternal surname. That means that Pepa's and Julieta's children will need to have different first surnames. I wonder if that detail is something that will be included in the film.
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I checked the release date for Encanto. I knew it was in November, just I thought it could be mid-Nov rather than the end. But it's Thanksgiving week, I should've known. I think every female-lead film of the Revival has got that luxury other than TP&TF (of course) and Raya, right? :roll:
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Some new merch. It's clear that the most featured characters after Mirabel are her sisters and Antonio.

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Sotiris wrote:I could see Bruno being the black sheep of the family or the prodigal son, if you will. That would be another religious element to go along with the miracle of the candle. I'm certain Mirabel will convince him to come back and rejoin the family in the end. I'm not sure if that counts as a redeemed villain though. I suppose it depends on the reason he left the family and whether he did anything selfish or morally questionable.
Well, yes, I guess it'll depend on that.
Sotiris wrote:Perhaps her room will appear after she fulfills her destiny and restores the magic in Encanto.
That's possible.
Sotiris wrote:I think so too. I wonder if it's going to be a lullaby like Remember Me that gains different meaning depending on who sings it. For example, when Pedro sings it to Alma, it's about romantic love and when Alma sings it to her children, it becomes about familial love.
They've done that more than once lately in films like Tangled or Coco, but it sounds likely in this case since it seems it's going to be an important song in the movie and the film's message is about family.
Sotiris wrote:If he had a fight with a family member, it was probably his mom. She's the matriarch and keeper of the flame, after all.
In an interview, the actress who voices her said she's tough and strict as well as affectionate to her granchildren, so maybe you're right about that.
Sotiris wrote:I don't know. It doesn't seem likely to me. While it's cool and all, it sounds something out of a superhero movie. And while WDAS has dabbled with time travel before in Meet the Robinsons, I don't think they would do this here. Time travel is something more closely associated with sci-fi than fantasy and in stories with contemporary or futuristic settings. Besides, if Bruno has already changed the past and that's the reason Mirabel sees the cracks in the house, how is she supposed to undo that? It just seems too complicated.
Yeah, maybe it would feel too sci-fi. And, come to think of it, too similar to Back to the Future. I thought that theory could explain some of the events we know, but on second thought, it's true that it doesn't make much sense.
Sotiris wrote:I think it's more likely he can just freeze time. That way he can give Mirabel the time needed to save the day and prevent the "infection" from spreading and completely destroying Casita.
Regarding the cracks in the walls only Mirabel can see, it also occurred to me that Bruno could be responsible for that. Maybe his ability is to see future events and he's trapped somewhere, but has found a way to communicate with Mirabel and share his visions with her. If that's the case, I guess she'll not only need to save the house, but also rescue him.
Sotiris wrote:By the way, I was reading that in Colombia it's customary for people to have two surnames with the first one being the paternal surname and the second one the maternal surname. That means that Pepa's and Julieta's children will need to have different first surnames. I wonder if that detail is something that will be included in the film.
In Spain we have two surnames as well and I guess it's the same in most Latin American countries. When they announced the protagonist would be called Mirabel Madrigal, I thought it would've been cool if they had given her a second surname. But maybe she'll have it and it'll be mentioned in the film. After all, we usually use just the name and first surname to refer to people. At least in Spain, like Javier Bardem or Penélope Cruz, for example. I don't even know what their second surnames are. So, the fact that her second surname hasn't been revealed doesn't mean she and the other characters won't have them.

Apart from that, though, I hadn't thought much about the surnames. Now, after you mentioned it, I'm starting to have a lot of questions. If they're called the Madrigals, it must've been Pedro's first surname, right? But then, Mirabel wouldn't have it as first surname since it's her mother who's Pedro and Alma's daughter and not her father. Same with Pepa's children. Does Madrigal come from Mirabel's father then? If so, only he, Mirabel and her two sisters would have it as surname. Or do people get the maternal surname as their first in this family? They trademarked the name "Antonio Madrigal", as well as "Mirabel Madrigal", "Luisa Madrigal" and "Isabela Madrigal", which seems to confirm that theory. That may be progresive, but wouldn't be accurate to Colombia's culture, so it seems strange to me they would do that. Am I missing something or is it true that the surnames announced don't make sense?
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Wikipedia says, "In Colombia, the use is two surnames: first the paternal surname and then the maternal surname. Married women used to change their second last name for their husband’s first last name adding the preposition "de" between the two last names. However, in recent years, married women do not change their original family names for their husband's. Children who are not recognized by their father are registered with the two maternal surnames."

Going down the rabbit trail, AP News has an article about potential legal action on changing the idea of the order of last names: https://apnews.com/article/ad90e7fe578e ... 704bcadc28

Rabbit trail still: https://culturalatlas.sbs.com.au/colomb ... ure-naming

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https://webpages.uncc.edu/mperez19/twolastnames.html
It doesn't explain why the Madrigal family is just the Madrigal family, but maybe they all do have the two surnames but for coherency sake for the film, all just are referred to as Madrigal.

The US isn't Colombia, but in jobs I've had, I've seen that some years people will use the two names, and other years they'll use a single name (on paperwork). It gets confusing on my end as a worker (doesn't matter lol) and I don't know why they change it from year to year.

Do we know if Encanto takes place in the past or present?
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D82 wrote:Some new merch. It's clear that the most featured characters after Mirabel are her sisters and Antonio.
In 2D form, Mirabel kinda looks like she belongs in Lilo & Stitch's world or was drawn by Chris Sanders.
Regarding the cracks in the walls only Mirabel can see, it also occurred to me that Bruno could be responsible for that. Maybe his ability is to see future events and he's trapped somewhere, but has found a way to communicate with Mirabel and share his visions with her. If that's the case, I guess she'll not only need to save the house, but also rescue him.
That would be interesting. But then again, if he has the ability to do that, why would he choose to send those visions to Mirabel and not someone else?
D82 wrote:If they're called the Madrigals, it must've been Pedro's first surname, right? But then, Mirabel wouldn't have it as first surname since it's her mother who's Pedro and Alma's daughter and not her father. Same with Pepa's children. Does Madrigal come from Mirabel's father then? If so, only he, Mirabel and her two sisters would have it as surname. Or do people get the maternal surname as their first in this family? They trademarked the name "Antonio Madrigal", as well as "Mirabel Madrigal", "Luisa Madrigal" and "Isabela Madrigal", which seems to confirm that theory. That may be progresive, but wouldn't be accurate to Colombia's culture, so it seems strange to me they would do that. Am I missing something or is it true that the surnames announced don't make sense?
I agree, it doesn't make much sense. I guess they wanted to simplify the name thing for the audience's sake and to make it clear that everyone belongs to the same clan. In-universe, maybe they all adopted Madrigal as their first surname to honor Pedro and his sacrifce. Or maybe they do have different first surnames, but everyone calls them Madrigal out of convenience and due to them being the only magical family there (which again would be somewhat strange). Honestly, I doubt this will be clarified or addressed in the film.
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D82 wrote:he also revealed that the rooms inside the house are actually worlds based on the different environments of Colombia. One is like the ChocĂł rainforest, one is like the Estoraques rock formation, and there's a flower room based on the flower festivals in MedellĂ­n.
Finally the director revealed one truly important feature of the house !! :-O I thought this could have been part of the first wave of promotion. But they seemingly decided to keep it as a secret for the main audience ;-) at least until the second trailer.. Although they craftily teased the rooms with what was shown back in July.
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I really prefer her design in 2D A LOT MORE! Not because I'm a stickler for hand drawn animation, but there is just s much more appeal and individual charm. In 3D she seems much more bland and generic for some reason. Also looks much older in CGI form then her 2D counterpart...
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^Agreed. Actually, all the characters look better in 2D and not just Mirabel.
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I like whatshername the sister with the flower power, I liked her design more in the hand-drawn images we saw early on than she looked in 3D form in most of these posters / film images.

The way Mirabel's arms and hand are drawn in that one hand-drawn image above used for the clock (the one with the big purple butterfly behind her) reminds me of Thalia from Hercules.
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Is that supposed to be the new "cute" character like Tuk Tuk? By the way, it just occurred to me that Mirabel doesn't have an animal sidekick (unless that butterfly she keeps holding in images counts).
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As a former Disney fan I weep at how low the company has fallen. As a Latina I am OUTRAGED. :angry:

At least I can get a good laugh from how little this movie will be embraced in my home country. :lol: we will stick to our own creations rather than imperialistic, western products.

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French books.

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Close-ups of previously-released images. If you noticed, each person's portrait is adorned with a different type of flower or plant except for Mirabel's. Dolores and Isabela look significantly better in illustration form. Camilo's mischievous expression is hilarious. :lol:

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Julieta's family is wearing shades of blue whereas Pepa's family is wearing shades of yellow.

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It looks like Mirabel is wearing pants underneath her skirt. It's probably old-fashioned undergarments.

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^Thanks for posting! It's very colorful. Here's the original source, in case anyone wants to see it in a higher resolution.

And thanks for all the updates, Sotiris! So far, the book covers don't seem to reveal much about the story, but I like the powers chosen for each character more and more. It's quite cool to be able to befriend wild animals, for example, like Antonio does here. I bet many children would like to have that ability. I know my sister would've loved it. She loves animals and when she was little, her dream was to have a tiger as a pet like Jasmine in Aladdin. It's not a very common superpower either, is it? Plus, it's quite useful in a country where there are animals like these, and an opportunity for the filmmakers to showcase Colombia's fauna. I also like how what control's the weather in Pepa's case are her emotions. That probably will lend itself to some funny moments.
Sotiris wrote:Close-ups of previously-released images. If you noticed, each person's portrait is adorned with a different type of flower or plant except for Mirabel's.
Yeah, I had noticed that as well. I thought they represented each character's powers and Mirabel didn't have any because she has no gift, but come to think of it, if that's the case; why the portraits for other family members who don't have powers either, like Agustín or Félix, are adorned with flowers?
Sotiris wrote:Dolores and Isabela look significantly better in illustration form.
Yes, especially Dolores.
Sotiris wrote:Julieta's family is wearing shades of blue whereas Pepa's family is wearing shades of yellow.
You're right; it's quite clear in that image. I'm still surprised unprincess noticed that about Pepa's family back when the only things released were the poster and trailer and some leaked images. I wonder if there'll be some meaning behind that.

By the way, here's that still in higher resolution. Now we can notice some details we couldn't see before like the motifs of suns, drops of water and lightning bolts on Pepa's outfit; the plants, hands and hearts on Julieta's (which I guess represent healing and health) or how Alma's dress has symbols about the whole Encanto "miracle" like candle flames, butterflies or mountains. Given how customized for each character the clothes are, I wonder if the house also creates them for the Madrigals.

Speaking of the outfits, I also noticed recently that Antonio's vest has animals embroidered on it:

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And some new details about Mirabel's outfit. First, what is written on her skirt, apart from her name with a drawing of her glasses next to it, is not what I previously said, but "yo amo a los Madrigal" (I love the Madrigals).

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The motifs embroidered on her skirt also seem to symbolize the origin of the Encanto and each of her family members' powers. I guess she adds new embroidery every time one of them receives their gift. But what are these shapes on her sleeve and skirt? Could they be Roman numerals (dates for example, or a countdown) or are they just stitches? Maybe I'm looking too much into it. :lol:

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I think Germaine Franco did a good job with the songs in Coco, so I'm looking forward to listening to her score for Encanto. And whether it ends up being good or not, she's already making history for being the first woman to score a WDAS film.
blackcauldron85 wrote:Wikipedia says, "In Colombia, the use is two surnames: first the paternal surname and then the maternal surname. Married women used to change their second last name for their husband’s first last name adding the preposition "de" between the two last names. However, in recent years, married women do not change their original family names for their husband's. Children who are not recognized by their father are registered with the two maternal surnames."
Thanks for all the info about Colombian surnames you posted, blackcauldron85! There were several things I didn't know, like the fact that women used to change their second surname for their husband's first surname when then got married. I don't know if the same happened in my country; my grandmothers didn't change their surnames, so if it was the same here, it had to be at least before that generation. Regarding children who are not recognized by their father, I know a Bolivian woman who is an example of that and she does have the same surnames as her mother, so it seems that happens in other Latin American countries as well.
blackcauldron85 wrote:Going down the rabbit trail, AP News has an article about potential legal action on changing the idea of the order of last names: https://apnews.com/article/ad90e7fe578e ... 704bcadc28
In Spain couples can also choose now what surname they want their children to have first, but like in Colombia, it wasn't like that in the past. No one I know has chosen to change the usual order, but I guess there are people who do it.
blackcauldron85 wrote:It doesn't explain why the Madrigal family is just the Madrigal family, but maybe they all do have the two surnames but for coherency sake for the film, all just are referred to as Madrigal.

The US isn't Colombia, but in jobs I've had, I've seen that some years people will use the two names, and other years they'll use a single name (on paperwork). It gets confusing on my end as a worker (doesn't matter lol) and I don't know why they change it from year to year.
It could be. Here in Spain we usually say just the first surname too to refer to a family, similarly to the US, only that here we say the surname in singular. Maybe it happens (or happened) in Colombia as well, even though it isn't mentioned in the article.
blackcauldron85 wrote:Do we know if Encanto takes place in the past or present?
It takes place in the past. Most likely in the late 19th century or early 20th, as Farerb once said. I forgot to mention it back then, but I'm really glad it's set in the past and not in the present as we first thought.
Sotiris wrote:I agree, it doesn't make much sense. I guess they wanted to simplify the name thing for the audience's sake and to make it clear that everyone belongs to the same clan. In-universe, maybe they all adopted Madrigal as their first surname to honor Pedro and his sacrifice. Or maybe they do have different first surnames, but everyone calls them Madrigal out of convenience and due to them being the only magical family there (which again would be somewhat strange). Honestly, I doubt this will be clarified or addressed in the film.
I remembered later that in the village where my father was born every household was usually named after the patriarch (his name, not his surname in this case), and that name could also work more or less like a surname, with a preposition between the person's name and it. I don't know if that's something only common in that region of Spain or if it happens in other places as well. I'm realizing now that I should know more about my own culture. :oops: In the region where I live now people do something similar too, but with nicknames. Maybe something like that happens in Colombia as well; perhaps in the film each family member will have their own surnames, but everyone calls them Madrigal because they belong to the same household that had Pedro as patriarch. And who knows, maybe it's also possible Madrigal is Alma's first surname since there's a matriarchy in this case.
Sotiris wrote:That would be interesting. But then again, if he has the ability to do that, why would he choose to send those visions to Mirabel and not someone else?
Well, maybe it's Mirabel's powers what allows her to communicate with his uncle somehow and see these visions.
Clindor wrote:Finally the director revealed one truly important feature of the house !! :-O I thought this could have been part of the first wave of promotion. But they seemingly decided to keep it as a secret for the main audience ;-) at least until the second trailer.. Although they craftily teased the rooms with what was shown back in July.
In your last sentence you were referring to the tree, right? Or did they show some more worlds in the teaser?
Sotiris wrote:Is that supposed to be the new "cute" character like Tuk Tuk?
I think that character in particular will probably be quite secondary. The only animals I see being proper sidekicks are the jaguar and the toucan, which are always shown near Antonio. They're likely the ones to have the registered names Chispi and Parce.
Sotiris wrote:By the way, it just occurred to me that Mirabel doesn't have an animal sidekick (unless that butterfly she keeps holding in images counts).
You're right. I hadn't thought about it either. There are very few female Disney protagonists who don't have an animal sidekick.
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D82 wrote:^Thanks for posting! It's very colorful. Here's the original source, in case anyone wants to see it in a higher resolution.
Thank you for the source, I didn't know they released other posters, but don't they usually release posters for upcoming films?
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^Yes, that's what they usually do. I don't know why most of the posters this time were for past movies instead.
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