Ralph Breaks the Internet

[DisneyEra]

Was Oliver & Company the first modern-day WDAS feature to have toys from McDonalds? Can't believe these are exactly 30 years apart

[bruno_wbt]

Have you seen the new Princess spot? It's so funny!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK0WeIDu8Wk


Princess Jasmine: Do you have daddy issues?
Vanellope: I don’t even have a mom!
The Princesses without moms: Neither do we!

[disneyprincess11]

Yup! That was one of the best parts of the scenes for sure!

BTW: With 33 reviews at RT, 91% Fresh Rate!!

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ralph_ ... e_internet

[D82]

I'm glad it's getting good reviews.

Julia Michaels's song will be released tomorrow: https://twitter.com/DisneyMusic/status/ ... 3969885185

[DisneyEra]

I'm glad it's getting good reviews.

Julia Michaels's song will be released tomorrow: https://twitter.com/DisneyMusic/status/ ... 3969885185

Every single WDAS feature since Bolt has had great reviews. This was clearly expected. The last WDAS feature to have bad reviews was Chicken Little from 2005

[unprincess]

Was Oliver & Company the first modern-day WDAS feature to have toys from McDonalds? Can't believe these are exactly 30 years apart

I still have fond memories of going to see the film then going to McDonald's with my mom and getting the happy meal with the cool artwork on the box and the finger puppet(I got Georgette & I still have her) and getting the ornament(got Dodger, still have him too.) This was the middle of December 1988 so Oliver and Company always reminds me of the holidays. The following December I did the same exact thing for Little Mermaid, movie-Mcdonalds visit-Happy Meal-holiday ornament. Good times.

I dont know if it was the first modern film to have a happy meal tie in. I dont think it was the first Disney film (overall) to get one, I think they had made one for Cinderella earlier that year, since it had just been released on home video for the first time.

[disneyprincess11]

Now that the media embargo for WRECK IT RALPH 2 has been lifted for USA, I can talk more about the movie!

1) “A Place Called Slaughter Race”

It is literally the love child of any Disney Princess song and Be Our Guest (wth the dance break, lighting, and everything). Plus, the Slaughter Racers and Shank’s solos sound EXACTLY like “Another Day of Sun” from La La Land. Listen to the song now and you have listened to the whole middle of “A Place Called Slaughter Race.”

Vanellope’s beginning and end is purely Disney Princess and Somewhere That’s Green with the Disney Chorus (From what I can remember, but I’m pretty sure!). The ending is shockingly dramatic with Sarah hitting high notes at the beginning of the end and finishing it with belting (From what I can remember, but I’m pretty sure!)

The song and the scene are great, but here is my issue. I don’t feel it matches Vanellope at all. I never thought of her at all to be a twirling princess with a bird on her finger a la Snow White. It was a huge contrast with her tomboy, scrappy personality. She doesn’t sound princessy, but the whole idea and song feels forced on her, which I was worried about. And it’s too bad the addition of the song caused them to rewrite the whole second half of the Princess scene. (Additional post).

I give credit that Slaughter Race is a new world, so new rules. But, the jazzy feeling of their part of the song and the whole Broadway idea doesn’t feeling fitting to Slaughter Race either.

I’m 10000% grateful of the scene and the song in general, but I wished it fit more with Vanellope.

Also, 5:30 is NOT Vanellope’s song. It is much much slower and not upbeat. I’m guessing that could be the original version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbCij9fcJR4

Tip: The song will be out on Friday. But tomorrow, if you switch the iTunes store to the Pacific (Austrailia/New Zealand), you can listen to a bit of it since it’ll be Friday at their time.

2) Felix and Calhoun

To all of my Felix/Calhoun fans, unfortuanely they are barely in the movie at all.

There’s not even a brief moment in the middle. No dinner scene with kids or anything. In fact, this is literally the only scene Calhoun and Felix interact with each other. At all. If you want serious Hero’s Cuties stuff, watch this over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwYCahaOV6E

Felix and Calhoun are in the movie so briefly that all of their scenes already have been revealed (minus Felix’s closing scene with Ralph) in the TV spots.

What’s more upsetting is you don’t even see how Felix and Calhoun raise the kids. The kids are literally perfect angels at the end and it comes out of nowhere. And get this: Felix and Calhoun explain to the Surge Protector how they raised the kids. You don’t even hear it. It’s blocked out by the car beeps. Yes, seriously. I get that it’s a joke of how they were written out of the movie, but it’s still a big slap to the face who really want to see these characters. I’m also confused why Jack and Jane say their marriage is rocky b/c….?

What’s really weird about the gigantic cutting of the Sugar Calhoun Family is that a) their story was scattered throughout the movie and b) it was to the point of color keys and storyboards. And it was even on a cover.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/8d21a15bef8 ... o1_540.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/66842f21240 ... o3_540.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a91c6f2b461 ... o2_540.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a0dbfa665d0 ... r1_540.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/1f8c29525cc ... r1_400.png

I really wondered what happened that made their story into a literal joke at the end b/c this was clearly super deep in late production of the movie?

Hopefully, they’ll turn these things into a short with the DVD like Auntie Edna b/c….this is like half a movie deleted and they just can’t waste this much stuff of two main characters.

3) The Princess Scene

The second half is rewritten. Completely. No Snow in glasses, Jasmine being allergic to Rajah etc. No “We are all different”. No “I love you guys”. Merida has a new line, instead of the one you have seen. Meeko isn’t really rabid. But, he hisses at Vanellope b/c she’s off-key in her singing. The girls don’t tell Ariel to stop singing, which is a great change. No sassy Aurora and ‘Ella (I miss their magical fist pump), making fun of the Star Wars cameo, but the girls groan when he tells them it’s time to go. (I loooove the angry THANK YOU!!!!! from one of the princesses. I couldn’t tell who it was since it was off-screen, but I died! )

It is now all about Vanellope’s song. The scene still has a lot of heart, chemistry, and humor that makes fun of them singing in a tasteful way. The scene is still great (anything with the Princesses is welcomed!) and princess fans will adore it! I’m guessing they’ll put it on the DVD as an “extended scene” b/c a) people will flock to it and b) they still showed the old scene at the NY Con in October. They can’t waste footage like that.

[JeanGreyForever]

I prefer the changes to the princess scene although I'm sure I'll still cringe throughout it. I hope it doesn't take up too much time from the film.

As for the reviews, most of the major Disney releases start off in the 90s but the ratings quickly go down after a few days. If I remember correctly, BATB took a huge dive and WIR2 is already at the low 90s.

[bruno_wbt]

3) The Princess Scene

But is there another princess scene at the end? How long are those princess scenes?

[disneyprincess11]

3) The Princess Scene

But is there another princess scene at the end? How long are those princess scenes?

There sure is. The first one is 3 minutes and the last one is a minute and a half

[blackcauldron85]

The VR game looks like a lot of fun!

“Ralph Breaks VR” Gets Launch Trailer Welcoming You to the World of the Internet
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/20 ... -internet/

[D82]

You can already listen to the soundtrack on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/4YWNDk8p ... 8TVEOBKzjQ

[JeanGreyForever]

I'm glad the total princess scenes don't last longer than five minutes. Not that the rest of the film sounds much better.

[Sotiris]

We got BTS footage after the movie, so we saw a tiny bit of the first draft of the Princess scene that had Yess with the girls, a couple of handrawn tests of Ariel, Snow and Yesss, some art for Vanellope's song, and footage of Taraji's first recording as Yesss.

Those 2D tests better show up on the Blu-ray! Of course, knowing Disney they probably won't.

And other videos:
How to draw Vanellope with Mark Henn

It makes me sad whenever I see the few 2D animators at Disney resort to this sort of stuff. It's such a waste of their time and talent. By the way, Mark Henn got a new title on this movie. He's now credited as "hand-drawn animation supervisor".

The team was also able to turn to Mark Henn for guidance. “He was the original supervising animator for six of the princesses—Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Mulan, Pocahontas and Tiana. And on ‘Frozen,’ he contributed to Anna and Elsa,” says Lehtomaki. “On top of 14 all that, Mark says that Cinderella was actually the film that inspired him to be an animator. Nobody knows these characters better than Mark. He’d comb through every scene in the film during dailies just to make sure that we remained true to who these ladies were. He’d also go around to our desks and leave thumbnail illustrations to suggest poses or acting choices—little nuggets of gold from his expert brain. He actually did some hand-drawn animation to help teach and inspire us.”

Says Henn, who served as hand-drawn animation supervisor for the film, “The princesses are still the characters we love, we’re just seeing a different side of them. The key is finding the balance. They’re backstage where they can behave like regular girls—just hanging out—but we still had to maintain their personalities.”

Rachel Bibb is credited as "2D clean-up lead" while Eric Goldberg as "additional animator". Randy Haycock is not credited at all.

Filmmakers decided to have KnowsMore’s eyes hand-drawn, calling on veteran animator
Rachel Bibb to create a dynamic look for the character’s big eyes.

Have you seen the new Princess spot? It's so funny!

I find it pathetic, to be honest. Disney including every criticism of the princesses and every tired joke that was made against them over the decades to appeal to a certain demographic with no qualms about sullying their legacy in the process screams desperation.

What’s more upsetting is you don’t even see how Felix and Calhoun raise the kids. The kids are literally perfect angels at the end and it comes out of nowhere. And get this: Felix and Calhoun explain to the Surge Protector how they raised the kids. You don’t even hear it. It’s blocked out by the car beeps. Yes, seriously. I get that it’s a joke of how they were written out of the movie, but it’s still a big slap to the face who really want to see these characters. I really wondered what happened that made their story into a literal joke at the end b/c this was clearly super deep in late production of the movie?

Wow. That's bad. They not only took away their subplot but turned it into a cheap joke. That's not only disrespectful to their fans but to the characters themselves. I bet their screen time got cut to accommodate the princess scenes.

Hopefully, they’ll turn these things into a short with the DVD like Auntie Edna b/c….this is like half a movie deleted and they just can’t waste this much stuff of two main characters.

Fingers crossed! What you're saying makes total sense, but you never know with Disney.

You can already listen to the soundtrack on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/4YWNDk8p ... 8TVEOBKzjQ

Thank you! I loved the song! While not one of Menken's best, it's still really good. It's a song that feels very familiar. Throughout the whole thing I was reminded of snippets from True Love's Kiss (from Enchanted), Belle (from Beauty and the Beast), Mother Knows Best (from Tangled), and To Be Free (from Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular).

I even liked the pop version even though it's very electro-pop and auto-tuned which is usually not my thing. Somehow it works for me. Maybe it's because it sounds like a totally different song and doesn't feel like a cover of the movie version. I didn't like they kept the reference to Slaughter Race though and didn't change the lyrics. What's the point of making a pop version but keeping very universe-specific lyrics that don't make sense outside the context of the movie? That was a bad call on their part.

I hope Disney releases a rendition of the movie version somewhere down the line with traditional, straight lyrics and sung by a professional singer because frankly Sarah Silverman doesn't fully do the song justice.

[DisneyEra]

Was Oliver & Company the first modern-day WDAS feature to have toys from McDonalds? Can't believe these are exactly 30 years apart

I still have fond memories of going to see the film then going to McDonald's with my mom and getting the happy meal with the cool artwork on the box and the finger puppet(I got Georgette & I still have her) and getting the ornament(got Dodger, still have him too.) This was the middle of December 1988 so Oliver and Company always reminds me of the holidays. The following December I did the same exact thing for Little Mermaid, movie-Mcdonalds visit-Happy Meal-holiday ornament. Good times.

I dont know if it was the first modern film to have a happy meal tie in. I dont think it was the first Disney film (overall) to get one, I think they had made one for Cinderella earlier that year, since it had just been released on home video for the first time.

Yep, that same year I remember the puppets from Pizza Hut from The Land before Time, that & Oliver both were released on the same day I believe. It seems that Disney usually breaks from McDonald's for a few years, they went to Burger King from Beauty & the Beast through Hunchback. Then went back to McDonalds' through Hercules all the way to Chicken Little . Then there was nothing for Meet the Robinsons all the way to Wreck it Ralph. Then they got with Subway for Frozen threw Moana, & now they're back with McDonald's with Ralph breaks the Internet. We'll see how long they'll stay with McDonald's this time. Could be awhile.

[JeanGreyForever]

I still have fond memories of going to see the film then going to McDonald's with my mom and getting the happy meal with the cool artwork on the box and the finger puppet(I got Georgette & I still have her) and getting the ornament(got Dodger, still have him too.) This was the middle of December 1988 so Oliver and Company always reminds me of the holidays. The following December I did the same exact thing for Little Mermaid, movie-Mcdonalds visit-Happy Meal-holiday ornament. Good times.

I dont know if it was the first modern film to have a happy meal tie in. I dont think it was the first Disney film (overall) to get one, I think they had made one for Cinderella earlier that year, since it had just been released on home video for the first time.

Yep, that same year I remember the puppets from Pizza Hut from The Land before Time, that & Oliver both were released on the same day I believe. It seems that Disney usually breaks from McDonald's for a few years, they went to Burger King from Beauty & the Beast through Hunchback. Then went back to McDonalds' through Hercules all the way to Chicken Little . Then there was nothing for Meet the Robinsons all the way to Wreck it Ralph. Then they got with Subway for Frozen threw Moana, & now they're back with McDonald's with Ralph breaks the Internet. We'll see how long they'll stay with McDonald's this time. Could be awhile.

What I especially loved about the McDonalds and Burger King lines was that they didn't just release toys for a film's theatrical debut. They also did toys for the theatrical resissues, the home video releases, anniversaries, etc. and they even gave the cheapquels toy lines as well. It's too bad Mary Poppins Returns isn't getting any sort of toy line at McDonalds, unless it is and I just haven't seen anything for it.

[D82]

The songs are also on Youtube now:
- A Place Called Slaughter Race
- In This Place

Here are also some new promos:
- https://twitter.com/wreckitralph/status ... 2744256517
- https://twitter.com/wreckitralph/status ... 1169619968
- https://twitter.com/wreckitralph/status ... 8213992448
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-YTkQlNj08
- https://twitter.com/disney_sgp/status/1 ... 6552442881

Interviews:
- Academy Conversations: Ralph Breaks the Internet
- John C. Reilly Answers Our Ralph Breaks the Internet Questions | Oh My Disney
- Taraji P. Henson Plays a Game of Yesss or Nooo | Oh My Disney
- Ralph Breaks The Internet's animators explain how the Disney princess scene came together
- Clark Spencer: Creating a Timeless Internet
- Josie Trinidad Talks Ralph Breaks The Internet And Diversity In Animation
- Interview with Julia Michaels from Zane Lowe's show

And articles:
- Ralph Breaks The Internet: Directors Say They Never Initially Envisioned A Sequel (LRM Exclusive)
- The Unexpected Reason Ralph Breaks The Internet Dropped Wreck-It Ralph 2 From The Title (Exclusive)

I loved the song! While not one of Menken's best, it's still really good. It's a song that feels very familiar. Throughout the whole thing I was reminded of snippets from True Love's Kiss (from Enchanted), Belle (from Beauty and the Beast), Mother Knows Best (from Tangled), and To Be Free (from Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular).

I had very similar thoughts about the song, so sorry if I repeat some things. I really liked it too, but yes, it's not one of Alan's best songs. It also reminded me of "Belle" and "True Love's Kiss"! The melody is really nice, but Prince Kido was right, it doesn't stick in your head. Now that I've listened to it, I don't think it will be nominated to the Oscars for that same reason. The end-credits version has a catchier chorus; however, I think they chose to submit the right one, because the latter might be too modern for the Academy members' tastes.

I even liked the pop version even though it's very electro-pop and auto-tuned which is usually not my thing. Somehow it works for me. Maybe it's because it sounds like a totally different song and doesn't feel like a cover of the movie version.

I'm also surprised that I liked Julia Michaels' version considering that I'm not keen on that music style either. And it's true; it almost doesn't seem it's the same song. I also appreciated that.

[Sotiris]

The melody is really nice, but it doesn't stick in your head. Now that I've listened to it, I don't think it will be nominated to the Oscars for that same reason. The end-credits version has a catchier chorus; however, I think they chose to submit the right one, because the latter might be too modern for the Academy members' tastes.

You never know with the Academy. I mean, they snubbed Evermore which was quite memorable and unique, so catchy and original isn't necessarily what they're looking for. Honestly, I feel the songs are picked more on the basis of their movie's critical reception than the quality of the songs themselves. I still think the pop version would have had a better chance because it's more conventional and palatable and members seem to respond more to pop songs lately than traditional Broadway fare. It seems they no longer appreciate songs with more complex musical structures like that of "Belle". Perhaps they consider that type outdated.

Disney should have hired a big name in the pop music industry to perform the end-credits version. II hadn't heard of Julia before and I doubt many people have. Star power really appeals to and influences voters evident by the recent nominations of Justin Timberlake, Nick Jonas, and others despite their songs being mediocre at best.

[Sotiris]

Lasseter is to blame for the Wrecked Princesses! He was the one who pushed for their inclusion. It's no coincidence the princess scene was changed to be more respectful and less irreverent as soon as he left. Can't say I'm surprised. He always resented the '90s Disney movies and their success and this was just another attempt of his to sully their legacy. If only he had been fired sooner, all of this could have been avoided.

The movie’s filmmakers had a crucial ally for the updated portrayal: former chief creative officer John Lasseter, who had long wanted to bring the princesses down to earth, colleagues say. Mr. Lasseter had received approval and support for the scene from Disney Chief Executive Robert Iger, the CEO, according to people familiar with the matter.

“If I were to make the movies you guys wanted me to make about princesses, I would be murdered,” Mr. Lasseter once told a group raising concerns about the character Merida’s cynical attitude in “Brave,” according to a former colleague. He said, “I couldn’t make the movies Walt Disney made today.”

Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/beauty-and ... 1542430801

[thedisneyspirit]

And his original princess is also coincidentally the least liked of the group. The only people who seem to like her outside of genuine fans are the hardcore anti-Disney crowd who have incorrect or biased views, so again, why do people take this Ursula's opinion in high regard?

Hilarious he wants to be all "woke" and "empowered" with the princesses considering he doesn't take seriously real women's genuine empowerment.

Lasseter and Iger, the two cancers ailing the Disney company. Hope Toy Story 4 bombs either way, but knowing the sheeple, that'll be hard.