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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:21 pm 
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Just two little reminders. The deadline to submit votes is in 2 hours and 39 minutes or so. 11:59 PM Eastern tonight. Also, if you've sent your votes by e-mail, you need to reply in this thread to that effect, or else your votes won't be counted.

Thanks.

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Heroines

1. Megara
2. Belle
3. Cinderella
4. Tinker Bell
5. Ariel
6. Mulan
7. Mrs. Jumbo
8. Elastigirl
9. Bambi's mom
10. Snow White
11. Aurora
12. Nala
13. Esmeralda
14. Jessie
15. Princess Jasmine
16. Mary Poppins
17. Pocahontas
18. Susan/Sharon (from the origional TPT)
19. Jane Porter
20. Perdita
21. Pollyanna
22. Alice
23. Blue Fairy
24. Lilo
25. Captain Amelia

Heroes

1. Woody
2. Buzz Lightyear
3. Mr. Incredible
4. Simba
5. Aladdin
6. Hercules
7. Bambi
8. Flik
9. Dumbo
10. Tarzan
11. Quasimodo
12. Scott Calvin
13. Thomas O'Malley
14. James (from JATGP)
15. Winnie the Pooh
16. Prince Phillip
17. Peter Pan
18. the Tramp
19. Sulley
20. (I Like) Pinocchio
21. Robin Hood
22. Oliver
23. Bongo
24. the Beast
25. John Smith

Honorable Hero Mentions:

The Biscuit Eater
Grandpa (from TOAGOFB)
Moochie
Dean Jones
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Alright, here it goes...

1. Simba
2. Buzz
3. Woody
4. Mr. Incredible
5. Aladdin
6. Flik
7. Winnie the Pooh
8. Sulley
9. Pinocchio
10. Hercules
11. Tarzan
12. Dumbo
13. Bambi
14. Baloo
15. Mufasa
16. Scott Calvin
17. Peter Pan
18. Mowgli
19. Kuzco
20. Prince Eric
21. Oliver
22. J. Thomas O'Malley
23. Alvin Straight
24. Robin Hood
25. Pongo

1. Ariel
2. Jasmine
3. Mary Poppins
4. Elastigirl
5. Nala
6. Aurora
7. Jane
8. Jessie
9. Alice
10. Violet
11. Bambi's Mother
12. Megara
13. Blue Fairy
14. Boo
15. Mrs. Jumbo
16. Princess Atta
17. Pocahontas
18. Mulan
19. Wendy Darling
20. Pollyanna
21. Cinderella
22. Dory
23. Belle
24. Lilo
25. Snow White

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:13 pm 
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Though I could spend more time analyzing this, I've ranked these considering heroics/bravery, strength of character, positive aspects, and role model quality.

Heroes:
1) Davy Crockett
2) Prince Phillip (Sleeping Beauty)
3) Christopher Syn (Dr. Syn, Alias the Scarecrow)
4) Johnny Tremain
5) Johnny Appleseed/John Chapman
6) Zorro
7) Cliff Secord (The Rocketeer)
8) Bob Parr (The Incredibles)
9) Travis Coates (Old Yeller)
10) John Smith (Pocahontas)
11) Benjamin Franklin Gates (National Treasure)
12) Will Turner (Pirates of the Caribbean)
13) Robin Hood (animated)
14) James P. Sullivan (Monsters Inc.)
15) Mike Wazowski (Monsters Inc.)
16) Bernard (The Rescuers)
17) Aladdin
18) Stanley Yelnats IV
19) Reverend Michael Hill (The North Avenue Irregulars)
20) Lemuel Siddons (Follow Me, Boys!)
21) Quazimodo (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
22) John Henry
23) Mickey Mouse (Fun and Fancy Free)
24) Jiminy Cricket
25) Bert (Mary Poppins)


Heroines:
1) Pollyanna Whitier (Pollyanna)
2) Mulan
3) Mary Poppins
4) Mia Thermopolis (The Princess Diaries)
5) Helen Parr (The Incredibles)
6) Pocahontas
7) Casey Carlisle (Ice Princess)
8) Nicky Ferris (The Moon Spinners)
9) Wendy (Peter Pan)
10) Jenny Blake (The Rocketeer)
11) Cinderella
12) Queen Clarisse Renaldi (The Princess Diaries)
13) Susan Evers (The Parent Trap)
14) Sharon McKendrick (The Parent Trap)
15) Nora (Pete's Dragon)
16) Miss Bianca (The Rescuers)
17) Natty Gann
18) Maid Marian (Robin Hood, animated)
19) Snow White
20) Dr. Kate McCrae (The Black Hole)
21) Beauty (Beauty and the Beast)
22) Nala (The Lion King)
23) Dory (Finding Nemo)
24) Princess Aurora (Sleeping Beauty)
25) Jesse (Toy Story)

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Heroes

1. Aladdin
2. Beast
3. Prince Charming
4. Tarzan
5. Hercules
6. Prince- Snow White
7. Prince Phillip
8. Quasimodo
9. Prince Eric
10. Pinocchio
11. Bambi
12. Tramp
13. Pongo
14. Peter Pan
15. Shang
16. Oliver
17. Bert
18. Simba
19. Mufasa
20. Basil
21. Taran
22. Bernard
23. Mickey
24. Dumbo
25. John Smith

Heroines

1. Cinderella
2. Ariel
3. Belle
4. Snow White
5. Aurora
6. Pocahontas
7. Jasmine
8. Nala
9. Meg
10. Mulan
11. Alice
12. Perdita
13. Jane from Tarzan
14. Lilo
15. Mary Poppins
16. Wendy
17. Bambi's Mother
18. Tinker Bell
19. Blue Fairy
20. Esmerelda
21. Miss Bianca
22. Lady
23. Flora
24. Fauna
25. Merriweather


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I've skimmed thru a bit of the voting.... Looks like people didn't think or dwell much on live action characters.

Also, here's an idea for a future countdown: duos.

Consider: Chip N Dale, Woody and Buzz, Robin Hood and Little John, Vincent and Old Bob, Timone and Pumba, Mike and Sully....

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Okay. I finally finished my list (and at the last minute too!). Here it is:

Heroes
1. Hercules from Hercules
2. Aladdin from Aladdin
3. Mr. Incredible from The Incredibles
4. Marlin from Finding Nemo
5. Simba from The Lion King
6. Beast from Beauty and the Beast
7. Bernard from The Rescuers
8. Prince Eric from The Little Mermaid
9. John Smith from Pocahontas
10. Quasimodo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame
11. Baloo from The Jungle Book
12. Prince Phillip from Sleeping Beauty
13. Robin Hood from Robin Hood
14. Sulley from Monsters, Inc.
15. Flik from A Bug's Life
16. The Seven Dwarves from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
17. Tarzan from Tarzan
18. Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story
19. Pacha from The Emperor's New Groove
20. Milo from Atlantis: The Lost Empire
21. Peter Pan from Peter Pan
22. Woody from Toy Story
23. Pongo from 101 Dalmatians
24. Buck from Home on the Range
25. Shang from Mulan

Heroines
1. Mulan from Mulan
2. Belle from Beauty and the Beast
3. Dory from Finding Nemo
4. Maggie from Home on the Range
5. Ariel from The Little Mermaid
6. Elastigirl from The Incredibles
7. Dot from A Bug's Life
8. Bianca from The Rescuers
9. Pocahontas from Pocahontas
10. Jasmine from Aladdin
11. Violet from The Incredibles
12. Nala from The Lion King
13. Megera from Hercules
14. Esmerelda from The Hunchback of Notre Dame
15. Jane from Tarzan
16. Princess Atta from A Bug's Life
17. Snow White from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
18. Jessie from Toy Story 2
19. Mary Poppins from Mary Poppins
20. Wendy from Peter Pan
21. Perdita from 101 Dalmatians
22. Cinderella from Cinderella
23. Lilo from Lilo & Stitch
24. Princess Aurora from Sleeping Beauty
25. Alice from Alice in Wonderland


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*flail!*

Under the wire... oh yeah! :D

(I hope... :P)

Heroines

1. Mulan
2. Esmeralda
3. Nala
4. Belle
5. Jane (Tarzan)
6. Pocahontas
7. The Spring Sprite
8. Eglantine Price
9. Megara
10. Mrs. Calloway
11. Lilo


Heroes

1. Milo Thatch
2. Quasimodo
3. The Tramp
4. The Beast
5. Bambi
6. Simba
7. Prince Phillip
8. Robin Hood
9. Thomas O'Malley
10. Dodger (Oliver & Company)
11. Joe Carioca (Does he technically count? Ahh, whatever - he's so cool, anyway! ;))

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Voting is OVER!

Thanks to all those who voted. Once again, if there are any heroes or heroines, you'd like to write about, send in your comments to countdown@ultimatedisney.com along with how you'd like to be credited.

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Thanks to everyone who has sent in comments on their favorite heroes and heroines thus far. There's been some great writing! There's also plenty of characters who look like they'll make the cut and do not have any comments on them. So feel free to still submit comments to countdown@ultimatedisney.com.

It'd be nice to have them in by the end of the week, assuming we start counting down the Top 25 Heroes and Top 25 Heroines next Monday. But that still leaves more time for the higher-ranking characters to have comments submitted. So if you only have time to write a few thoughts on one or a few characters, try to focus on those you think will make the cut but not at a very high ranking.

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The countdown has launched here:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/countdown5/

As you can see from the first 10 characters profiled, there was not an overwhelming number of comments submitted. To those of you who did submit comments, a hearty thank you! (This includes <b>pinkrenata</b>, who wrote paragraphs on a number of heroes and heroines.) To those who haven't, come on! You don't want to hear me ramble on about these characters, do you?

Anyway, there are still 40 characters to be profiled, so if you think someone might be coming up, do e-mail countdown@ultimatedisney.com with your brilliant insight and reflections as soon as humanly possible. Thank you!

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Opening this thread up for feedback, comments, discussion, etc. Without the communication, it feels like a somewhat needless lot of work.

The 16th through 25th highest-voted heroes and heroines are now profiled here: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/countdown5/


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Good list so far. I can't believe Jack Skellington and Shang didn't get out of the 20s, but I'm really looking forward to seeing who comes next on the list. I have a feeling my two favorites have a good chance at landing at number one! :D


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I thought I had written comments for some characters who would be in the first set of characters listed, but boy was I off the mark! Again, I understimated the pull of animation... not that it's a bad thing, I just wish the live-action characters would get a little more respect. I'm a bit surprised by some of the choices and their ranks. It's still very nice to look at things like this that portray Disney as an intertwined body of works and family of characters. The descriptions have been very good, Luke. Sorry you had to write so many!

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I'm still a little annoyed that Dumbo hasn't charted yet (and probably won't sadly). He's so cute and so underrated. But I think it's only fair that the fans who never knew that Disney made films prior to The Little Mermaid get their picks at number one; Tarzan is gonna swing in at the top! :roll:

Sorry about that Ernest Rister style outburst. I was just trying to make a point that I was disappointed by this abscence. :(

On the whole, though, this countdown is going fine. By the way, when are any of Miss Renata's comments popping up?

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So far I'm disappointed! Violet and Alice are not heroines! Elastigirl was the heroine in The Incredibles not Violet, she's more of a side-kick! Alice did nothing but meet a bunch of idiots! I also thought Sully should've been ranked higher than Marlin since his love for Boo was much more relatable than Marlin's love for Nemo, and Sulley's situation was much more touching!


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Timon/Pumba fan wrote:
So far I'm disappointed! Violet and Alice are not herions! Elastigirl was the herione in The Incredibles not Violet, she's more of a side-kick! Alice did nothing but meet a bunch of idiots!


Firstly, heroin is actually spelt "heroine".

Secondly, I think it's unfair to say that they aren't heroines because they don't have the exact traits of one. In Disney terms, a hero/heroine isn't somebody who is technically heroic; it's just a liberal term for the protaganist (the principal character[s]). Alice is the main character of her movie, and Violet, being part of the principal family, is a main character. Disney uses terms liberally (I mean, are Mulan, Tinkerbell and Marie from The Aristocats princesses like they are advertised as in the Disney store?). Therefore, just translate the word "hero/heroine" as protaganists and you'll be fine. :)

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Wonderlicious wrote:
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:
So far I'm disappointed! Violet and Alice are not herions! Elastigirl was the herione in The Incredibles not Violet, she's more of a side-kick! Alice did nothing but meet a bunch of idiots!


Firstly, heroin is actually spelt "heroine".

Secondly, I think it's unfair to say that they aren't heroines because they don't have the exact traits of one. In Disney terms, a hero/heroine isn't somebody who is technically heroic; it's just a liberal term for the protaganist (the principal character[s]). Alice is the main character of her movie, and Violet, being part of the principal family, is a main character. Disney uses terms liberally (I mean, are Mulan, Tinkerbell and Marie from The Aristocats princesses like they are advertised as in the Disney store?). Therefore, just translate the word "hero/heroine" as protaganists and you'll be fine. :)


Well what would you like better, some one who's a heroine just because or somebody who does something heroic! Also for the Dumbo comment, Dumbo wasn't the hero in the movie, Timothy Mouse was. He was the one that brought Dumbo and his mom back together and helped Dumbo with his circus act!


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How is Violet not a Heroine? She's more of a heroine than Elastigirl is. Afterall, she did save her family when they were all trapped.


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How is Violet not a Heroine? She's more of a heroine than Elastigirl is. Afterall, she did save her family when they were all trapped.


Well she's more side kick than heroine. And considering that we're having a Disney Side Kick countdown next time I would just put her in the side kick list instead.


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