Once Upon a Time (ABC TV Series)

[Disney Duster]

You know, when my mom watched the last episode, which we DVRed, I still got chills when Snow White said "Who?" and you see what she's done! Aaaaahhhhhh! Can't wait till the next episode!!!!! Tonight!!!!!

[toonaspie]

*sigh*

The show isn't bad but god do some of these episodes get so annoyingly cliche and predictable. Such is fairy tales I guess but come on. Some of these episodes write themselves. More substance please.

[Disney's Divinity]

I agree that the show is at times very cliche and dare I say cheesy, which is why I'm not a huge fan and have avoided posting negative thoughts, but I personally thought tonight's episode was the best in a while. The only thing I don't like about the format of this show is that, often time, it feels as if there's no follow up to the stories I actually want to see more of. For instance, I wanted to see what happened next with Snow White and the memory potion.

I do think Rumpilstiltskin as the beast is a pretty good idea actually. I wasn't expecting it, and I think it fits nicely.

[tsom]

Ahh, tonight's episode! I can't believe I even felt sorry for that witch!! Idk if she was lying about being trapped or if it was part of her trick? If what she said was true, then I do feel sorry for her and I see one of the many reasons why she hates Snow White and King Leopold (who pissed me off) and I don't blame her at all.

[Disney Duster]

I liked this episode a lot! It was great in both the fairy tale world AND the real world! Poor Henry and Emma...and mean, mean Sidney! I hate him now! I like his true genie self but not his Storybrooke self! And the queen is just despicable! But why didn't they give the genie BLUE PANTS if he's supposed to be Aladdin's Agrabah genie. It would have been enough and they wouldn't need to make him blue. And Aladdin didn't free him? They really are changing things. And why does the king's palace look so pointy and evil in some parts? I know it works for when the queen takes over, but not for the king's home before she takes over...

The show isn't bad but god do some of these episodes get so annoyingly cliche and predictable. Such is fairy tales I guess but come on. Some of these episodes write themselves. More substance please.

I almost wish I knew what you were talking about. Sometimes people make themselves predict stuff. Occasionally I predict something on the show but it doesn't bother me like it does you.

For instance, I wanted to see what happened next with Snow White and the memory potion.

It's called a cliffhanger! It makes you have to keep watching the series!

Ahh, tonight's episode! I can't believe I even felt sorry for that witch!! Idk if she was lying about being trapped or if it was part of her trick? If what she said was true, then I do feel sorry for her and I see one of the many reasons why she hates Snow White and King Leopold (who pissed me off) and I don't blame her at all.

When I first saw the Queen being all sad, I thought "ohno my theory was wrong". When she was with the genie, I felt she was acting too different from how we knew her...and then I finally realized why, just as the genie got back! Those sneaky writers! And I hated the king, too! What a jackhole! The queen was trapped, though. That's why she had the king killed, or a little more reason than that, if my theory is correct...

[tsom]

Maybe she was lying about being locked in her room and left her diary open for him to see?

[Disney Duster]

I apologize in advance if I ever seem too blunt in my responses to you guys, I just like to say how I feel without any extra words, but anyway...

I do think Rumpilstiltskin as the beast is a pretty good idea actually. I wasn't expecting it, and I think it fits nicely.

I...don't think so. Because he isn't a beast. He's not part animal at all. A strange looking human doesn't count as a beast. If he had horns, fangs, long ponty ears, a snout...but no. So that's why I don't think he can be the beast. Sometimes this show makes me roll my eyes.

Maybe she was lying about being locked in her room and left her diary open for him to see?

What do you mean? This explains which thing we were talking about?

[AliceinWonderland]

I apologize in advance if I ever seem too blunt in my responses to you guys, I just like to say how I feel without any extra words, but anyway...

I do think Rumpilstiltskin as the beast is a pretty good idea actually. I wasn't expecting it, and I think it fits nicely.

I...don't think so. Because he isn't a beast. He's not part animal at all. A strange looking human doesn't count as a beast. If he had horns, fangs, long ponty ears, a snout...but no. So that's why I don't think he can be the beast. Sometimes this show makes me roll my eyes.

Maybe she was lying about being locked in her room and left her diary open for him to see?

What do you mean? This explains which thing we were talking about?

He can be the Beast, just like how he was Cinderella's "Fairy Godmother"

Tsom was talking about how the Queen tricked the Genie into thinking she was a prisoner in her own castle. She purposely left her diary out to be discover to create doubt in the King. Seeing how it didn't look like she had allies before the King's death(not killing him sooner), she must of been about to come and go as she pleased to be able to conspire with her father.

[Disney Duster]

He can be the Beast, just like how he was Cinderella's "Fairy Godmother"

He wasn't the fairy godmother. We got to see the real fairy godmother.

And your explanation of what tsom was trying to explain might be right but I'd really like to hear him say what he was referring to, I can't tell if he was trying to respond to something I said.

[AliceinWonderland]

He took the place of the real fairy godmother, we wont know until the next ep if he took the place of the beast, the enchantress or maybe that they weaved he's original Rumpelstiltskin fairy tale into beauty and the beast.

I was thinking before since the original Rumpelstiltskin story he helped the miller's daughter that Regina would be her ( with her storybrook last name being Miller) The Miller's daughter marries the King and has to give up her child for the price of straw into gold. Snow white finds out and that the secret she tells.

[Disney Duster]

He took the place of the real fairy godmother, we wont know until the next ep if he took the place of the beast, the enchantress or maybe that they weaved he's original Rumpelstiltskin fairy tale into beauty and the beast.

That's true, you might be right. I did consider that. As long as he isn't the real beast, I'm okay with it. But then again I wasn't okay with him killing the fairy godmother and replacing her role in the story so in a way I don't care now, it's whatever.

I was thinking before since the original Rumpelstiltskin story he helped the miller's daughter that Regina would be her ( with her storybrook last name being Miller) The Miller's daughter marries the King and has to give up her child for the price of straw into gold. Snow white finds out and that the secret she tells.

This was also tsom's and other people's theory. But...Snow White caused the queen to lose a lover, at least that is what I think was indicated early on. I don't get how people don't know this from the first episodes.

I also have a theory that everyone has probably guessed by now but I guessed by the time the guy showed what was in his suitcase: the mystery guy is going to re-write, or write new continuations of the fairy tale stories that alter their real history and lives.

[Disney's Divinity]

Most of the people on another forum I visit thinks the new guy is the Pied Piper, for some reason.

[tsom]

Hey Disney Duster, what AliceinWonderland explained was exactly what I was trying to say. I'm sorry I didn't quote you, but after a long day, the last thing I want to do is do the whole quoting thing which takes me forever for some reason. Perhaps I'm just lazy? Haha, sorry again!

But I also scratched my head when the castle was shown. I was wondering why it was gloomy and dark. I always thought that when the queen became the sole ruler, she gave the place a dark makeover, but I guess it was always evil-looking to begin with?

[Disney Duster]

Divinity that's interesting and I can see it because of how is with Henry but...well I don't think so for now. Right now I think that's pretty dumb lol. But I may be wrong.

Hey Disney Duster, what AliceinWonderland explained was exactly what I was trying to say. I'm sorry I didn't quote you, but after a long day, the last thing I want to do is do the whole quoting thing which takes me forever for some reason. Perhaps I'm just lazy? Haha, sorry again!

Lol it can be a pain. But do you know what it was that I said that you were replying to?

But I also scratched my head when the castle was shown. I was wondering why it was gloomy and dark. I always thought that when the queen became the sole ruler, she gave the place a dark makeover, but I guess it was always evil-looking to begin with?

I actually was specifically referring to the very pointy and sharp structure of the castle. That couldn't even be re-done by the queen, at least not in a short time! So that's the part I think is weird/a bad choice.

[tsom]

Honestly Duster, I don't remember what I was referring to. It made so much sense the night I wrote it. Haha

I was also talking about how pointy and evil the castle looked. It makes sense for it to look like that with Queen Regina ruling, but not when kind King Leopold was alive.

[Disney Duster]

Oh okay. Sorry. I thought you just mean the shadowy look of it. lol. I feel like they got lazy and figured that since it would be the evil Queen's anyway, and she's who that fairy tale castle is always known for...

[tsom]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/02/07/once- ... r-daltrey/

[Disney Duster]

IS ANYONE HERE WATCHING THIS ANYMORE?!?!!!!!!

Because it's greaaaaattt!!!!! It just gets better and better!!!!!

So, the last episode...fantastic!!!! While Belle being a king's daughter and falling in love with the cursed peasant Rumplestiltskin is more messing with the stories in ways they shouldn't do to actually be the stories...I have to say I really liked their interpretation of Belle and Gaston. Belle had a really beautiful gold dress, one of the best costumes they've had, and her blue one was actually really lovely too. But the best part was the story. I just loved how this episode played out, it was really developing, engaging, and interesting to watch. The romance wasn't much but what they did was really nice and enough. Belle's speech about being a hero was good and great for her character. It is just that Rumpelstiltskin is quite the dummy to throw Belle away. If he always hated himself, might work. But its not like he's always felt ugly and unloveable, even in the episode where we see him cursed. I guess we must blame it on the evil curse combined with his personal feelings. But the thing with him and Belle's father...yikes! Got gruesome! Actually, Belle's father period was too awful to believe! And while David and Snow need to figure out HE JUST NEEDS TO BREAK UP WITH KATHERINE, I loved how Cinderella was the one who got the best romantic moment of Valentine's day and this episode. But "I Woof You!" was hilarious! And of course the ending was really woah, how Regina and Mr. Gold now let us know they know more about their true past than we thought.

CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT TIME!!!!!

[Tae]

I'm still watching!
Last night's was easily my favorite episode this season; I like that they specifically mentioned that Belle was there for months, so the romance is a little more plausible, and they incorporated the chipped teacup and the rose.
And of course, Mr. Gold's reveal. I've been positive he remembered his past life ever since episode two, so I was happy to have confirmation! And Regina proving to be smarter then she's displayed in some past episodes, by setting it up so that Mr. Gold would be forced to talk to her.
I could have done without the violent French/Gold scene, but I think it helped show how important Belle was to Rumple, and we never would have gotten that reveal without it.

I'm very exited to see how this information plays out in future episodes :3

[slave2moonlight]

That might have been my favorite episode too! I only just finished watching it. Very good after having the awful Valentine's Day I had (never have had a good one, ha). I am starting to adore Rumplestiltskin more than ever. Though, he was foolish to lose Belle like that, but I can see his side of it too. And I gotta disagree that he didn't hate himself before the curse. But, as usual, it seems that he hated himself because of the way he was treated by others. That seems to be something most people who don't have such an issue just don't "get", possibly even the writers of the show. That's why I can understand HIS side of it and also not wanting to lose his power, which was all he had and all he had ever had that caused people to treat him with some respect.

I really loved the way they did Belle and everything. Yeah, the more they make them like the Disney versions, the more it appeals to me, and they changed a lot here, but they also used a lot. I think, not that I want to get heavy into this debate again, but this was a really good example of what is really happening with the Disney aspect of this. People can argue that this is not supposed to be the Disney characters, but the point is, they seem to be using the Disney versions (whenever possible) as the sources they are starting off from. Of course, they are weaving their own story, but they are clearly using the Disney versions as a starting point. Heck, even Chip was a huge part of this episode! Oh, and Belle, god, how gorgeous! The theme parks should take a page from this in the casting, hair, and makeup departments, ha. Half the time, the Disney princesses look like drag queens with the extreme makeup and obvious wigs and all. Not always, but a lot of them do, ha.

And, yeah, David is very frustrating. Hard to understand why he doesn't leave the pseudo wife to be with Snow, and I liked Cinderella better in this episode than I have in the past, too. I haven't been too thrilled about the Red Riding Hood casting myself (or that she is supposed to be slutty, though it IS a funny take on the character), but that's cuz I have a thing for Red Riding Hoods and that story in general, for obvious reasons.