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I've also been wondering if eventually there will be a storyline that turns Emma into "The Swan Princess", which is why her last name ended up being Swan.
I wondered that, too.

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I noticed in the first episode there was a part where the wind blows some pages of the book to jump into the fairy tale scene. While the pages were flipping it looks like there is a picture of the Caterpillar and Alice. I would love to see Peter Pan, The Little Mermaid, Thumbelina, and so on make appearances in the series as well (that should also seperate it further from Grimm).

The page you missed shows Dorothy carried by the winged monkeys from The Wizard of Oz!

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I've also been wondering if eventually there will be a storyline that turns Emma into "The Swan Princess", which is why her last name ended up being Swan.

The Swan Princess is only the ballet...as far as I know...so it wouldn't be a fairy tale unless it was one of those Anderson tales about swans...?

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Disney Duster wrote:
The Swan Princess is only the ballet...as far as I know...so it wouldn't be a fairy tale unless it was one of those Anderson tales about swans...?


No, that's "The Wild Swans", a different 'swan' story altogether.

"The Wizard of Oz" and "Alice in Wonderland" are not fairytales but children's novels while "Peter Pan" was a play which was later novelized.

The story of "Swan Lake" was fashioned from German folk tales (such as "The Stolen Veil") as well as Russian ones (such as "The White Duck"), so I think the ballet is closer to the traditional sense of 'fairytale' than children's novels and plays.

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"The Wizard of Oz" and "Alice in Wonderland" are not fairytales but children's novels.

The Wizard of Oz is indeed a fairy tale. L. Frank Baum wrote in the introduction that it was an American fairy tale, and he intentionally put into it typical fairy tale things like witches. It is also known that his tale was in part inspired by Alice in Wonderland, and him being tired of all the classic children's novels being from London. The Wizard of Oz is certainly more novel than fairy tale, but it is both, and since it was based in part on Alice in Wonderland, well, anyway, both were in the fairy tale book in this show! I don't really agree with it...but I think it's neat and alright.

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Watch the first 10 minutes of episode 3 'Snow Falls'.

http://tv.yahoo.com/once-upon-her-time/ ... s/27153198

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According to Nielsen Reports, "Once Upon A Time" ABC's new highly-rated drama on Sunday nights has been given the green light for the rest of the season, which means that there will be a full 22-episode season for the highly watched series.

Okay, now this has me pumped up. While I don't see some of the things that other people see, I am starting to like the show a little more each week.

Also NBC has not given "Grimm" the green light, as yet, for anything past the first 9 episodes. It seems that most new shows that debut on Friday night, according to the Nielsen folks, tank in the first 9 weeks than any other day of the week.

Also on the list as shows either canceled or 'in trouble' included "Pan Am", "The Playboy Club", "90210", "Charlie's Angels" (canceled after four shows), CSI, CSI NY, and "Body of Proof". For the first time in five years the CSI series' seem to be faltering in their popularity, CSI Miami will be moved to another night of the week because of its slow start and poor ratings on Sunday night at 10 pm.

"Once Upon A Time" is the highest rated new show on ABC in 15 years.

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I think the fact that ABC has been re-running/re-airing a lot of episodes from their premiere shows has been helping. Both Once Upon A Time and Revenge have had previous episodes aired again, and I think it's helped both shows find and maintain an audience. ABC needs new hits, considering they've let all their hits from the past 8 years (Ugly Betty, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, etc.) go down the drain. I believe Lost is the only show they pimped during that time.

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I don't know about everyone else, but I'm about ready to strangle that evil Queen. Argh, she makes me mad!!!!!

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I don't know. I kinda feel for her. Who knows what Snow White did to her that hurt her so much. Until I know that, I won't judge her actions.

Also, I really like the fact Charming has a name now. His name in the fairytale land is Prince James, and his name in the real world is David Nolan.

Charming is just his nickname :P

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I was hoping it would be his actual name. I thought since this was Disney they would keep his name the actual one Disney gave him, ya know (though Cinderella's prince is the one more officially called Prince Charming).

The episode was exciting and I couldn't wait to see what happened, but I also didn't like how Snow White's character was raaaadically changed. I might have understood how she became tougher and stole things from people to survive in the woods. That makes some natural sense, she barged right into the dwarfs' cottage after all. Her manly outfit...okay, maybe she's in disguise, I get that, too. But to say she doesn't believe in true love?

Wtf, that is what her and every fairy tale character have always been about. And her character much later was more like the innocent, fairy tale heroine we know. I thought this show was going to contrast how the happy fairy tales are different from dark reality. Why would the Queen make a big speech about taking away their happiness if they didn't believe in such happiness before it happened? That makes it much less powerful. Snow White almost seems as bitter as the Queen.

I know some of you, like my one friend who watches it, might say you like how more real it makes the characters seem. Yea...but fairy tale characters are meant to be just that, fairy tales. They are meant to uphold our ideals, always. They are real in how they are portrayed, but they believe in things that most real people seldom do. That's why we read their stories, because they aren't ordinary, they're extraordinary. *sigh*

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Disney Duster wrote:
I was hoping it would be his actual name. I thought since this was Disney they would keep his name the actual one Disney gave him, ya know (though Cinderella's prince is the one more officially called Prince Charming).

The episode was exciting and I couldn't wait to see what happened, but I also didn't like how Cinderella's character was raaaadically changed. I might have understood how she became tougher and stole things from people to survive in the woods. That makes some natural sense, she barged right into the dwarfs' cottage after all. Her manly outfit...okay, maybe she's in disguise, I get that, too. But to say she doesn't believe in true love?

Wtf, that is what her and every fairy tale character have always been about. And her character much later was more like the innocent, fairy tale heroine we know. I thought this show was going to contrast how the happy fairy tales are different from dark reality. Why would the Queen make a big speech about taking away their happiness if they didn't believe in such happiness before it happened? That makes it much less powerful. Snow White almost seems as bitter as the Queen.

I know some of you, like my one friend who watches it, might say you like how more real it makes the characters seem. Yea...but fairy tale characters are meant to be just that, fairy tales. They are meant to uphold our ideals, always. They are real in how they are portrayed, but they believe in things that most real people seldom do. That's why we read their stories, because they aren't ordinary, they're extraordinary. *sigh*


In your second paragraph, are you talking about snow white??

Also, Cinderellla is going to be introduced in the next episode.. "Prince Charming" was going to marry another blonde Princess


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Disney Duster, yes it is a fairy tale, but characters can be three dementional in fairy tales. It is human for Snow White to think like this. I mean her mother died, her father died, her step mother wants her dead, etc. To her, love is probably another thing to lose. I'm sure later on, Prince James will make her believe in love again. :)

And remember: this show is just a fairy tale and fairy tales often get retold in many different ways. Next Sunday's story will be about Cinderella and it will be different from the Disney version and the Perrault version. So just relax, breathe, and enjoy OUAT's version of the little Cinder-girl. :-)


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Why I'm so iffy on the idea of a live-action film involving Maleficent. THEY COMPLETELY MURDERED HER IN THE SHOW! :(

But, I suppose everybody has their different versions... Look at those Vampires in Twilight... :P

Also glad to see I'm not the only one that face-palmed at the 'HEY!' :P


But I suppose the show is enjoyable to watch. Despite my unpleased-ness on their version of Maleficent, I find the show pretty enjoyable. It's kind of like those really bad movies you watch on the Sci-Fi(err, Sy-Fy) channel. They're so bad, they are good... Though I think this show is better then some of the movies they have on Sy-Fy... :P

But... Yeah. It's watchable. But the darn kid! Grr!! :x


HEY! :P My gosh! That has to be the most epic-est quote ever! HEY! :P

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The 10th Kingdom was better...

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I started watching this on Hulu today so I wandered into this thread. :) I kept thinking it felt like some kind of mash-up between Snow White and Enchanted.

Anyway, it's interesting to be informed that I apparently haven't been an adult for the past 17 years and that my entertainment preferences hold back those that have better taste . . . but hey, at least people can assume I have more money than brains! :p

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AliceinWonderland, yea, I meant Snow White lol!

Tsom, I'm actually a little surprised by your reaction. Don't you think fairy tale characters can be three-dimensional but still be true to how they were originally written? Don't you think Disney's characters, which believe in good, fairy tale ideals no matter what, are three-dimensional? Like Cinderella? Though I suppose even Cinderella almost gave up hope for one moment...but she wasn't nearly as bitter and cynical as Snow White! The reason we loved Snow White, or any fairy tale heroes, was because they were the opposite of cynical!

Kraken Guard, just like you, this show did make me think about Disney's live-action movie of Maleficent and worry about it, too, but this is definately a different take on Maleficent where she's hardly the same character and it's more like she just has her role i.e. fairy that cursed a princess. And has a magic staff and horns. I think the real live-action Maleficent will be much more faithful and better! But this also did remind me of the Tenth Kingdom and yes, I find the Tenth Kingdom to be way better, but they are two different shows with different ideas and very different approaches, too.

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Anyway, it's interesting to be informed that I apparently haven't been an adult for the past 17 years and that my entertainment preferences hold back those that have better taste . . . but hey, at least people can assume I have more money than brains! :p


:lol: Priceless! :thumb:

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Disney Duster, I don't think of the characters in OUAT as Disney characters. I see them as the characters in their respective fairy tales, even though some of them, like Maleficent, share the same name as their Disney counterparts. I know the creators said that this show is an extension of the Disney characters or something to that effect, but they didn't say the characters will be verbatim like the Disney creations. Snow White as an innocent, naive princess may work for a 1930s audience, but not a 2011 audience. I loved how Snow White had given up on love because it makes her love story with Prince James even more romantic in my opinion.

I know you're all about characters and situations remaining true to their original form (Ex. Rapunzel and Tangled) but I welcome new retellings and interpretations of the same source material, which is why I can't wait for Cinderella's story this Sunday! :-)


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Well it is true these aren't the actual Disney characters. I guess I thought this change to Snow White was even more different than any previous change. Like a totally different character.

But we both can look forward to Cinderella's episode and the rest of the show!

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I think the fact she gave up on love makes it even more sad she lost it again. She finally found love with James, only to lose it again, and not even rembembering having it.

By the way, Belle has been cast!

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Her name is Emilie de Ravin and she played in Lost.

Belle will appear in a future episode and her storyline will also involve Rumplestilskin.

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Yep, I just found out about Belle! She's slated to appear on episode 12!


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