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Tarzan & Jane and the Lilo & Stitch movies, whether good or bad, to me don't count because they're just continuations of their TV Series.

Lilo & Stitch 2 is parallel to Stitch! The Movie and Leroy & Stitch. The latter two movies are the prologue and epilogue of the Lilo & Stitch TV show, which are all about finding suitable homes for Jumba's experiments. Lilo & Stitch 2 doesn't deal with any of that. It's about Lilo wanting to win a hula competition because her mother won one as a little girl, the aliens still adjusting to life on Earth, and something happening inside Stitch that is killing him. I've watched Stitch! The Movie, Leroy & Stitch, and every episode of the Lilo & Stitch TV show and all the sad scenes in them pale in comparison to the sad scenes in Lilo & Stitch 2.


I stand corrected then. Similar to the Pooh movies I inadvertantly lumped the Lilo & Stitch franchise into creature. (Shows how long I've watched any sequels.) Thanks!

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Sky Syndrome wrote:
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Tarzan & Jane and the Lilo & Stitch movies, whether good or bad, to me don't count because they're just continuations of their TV Series.

Lilo & Stitch 2 is parallel to Stitch! The Movie and Leroy & Stitch. The latter two movies are the prologue and epilogue of the Lilo & Stitch TV show, which are all about finding suitable homes for Jumba's experiments. Lilo & Stitch 2 doesn't deal with any of that. It's about Lilo wanting to win a hula competition because her mother won one as a little girl, the aliens still adjusting to life on Earth, and something happening inside Stitch that is killing him. I've watched Stitch! The Movie, Leroy & Stitch, and every episode of the Lilo & Stitch TV show and all the sad scenes in them pale in comparison to the sad scenes in Lilo & Stitch 2.

Honestly? I found Lilo & Stitch 2 so sad and depressing that I only watched it once back when it was first released.

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So far, I only liked 'The Lion King 1½' (I want it on Blu-Ray), 'Bambi and the Great Prince of the Forest', 'Tinker Bell', 'Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure' and 'Tinker Bell and the Great Fairy Rescue'! They had good animation and good stories...


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...but I hate Little Mermaid II with a burning passion. ...
Agreed. That movie attempts to ruin Ariel by making her into an authoritarian like Triton was, and it deflates Ursula's original menace by giving her a stupid, screw-up sister. Ursula was only in one shot of this film--as the picture on Morgana's wall--and they couldn't even manage to design that right. :roll: That said, I did think the ice castle at the end was somewhat creative, but, in sequel fashion, they never quite pull it off.

The only sequels I like are: the Aladdin sequels (I liked the series, too, and these were almost extensions of that), the Lion King sequels, B&tB: The Enchanted Christmas, and Mulan II. Bambi and the Great Prince, Ariel's Beginning, and Cinderella: Twist in Time were all so-so, but better than the others.

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IMHO, these overmarketed dreck-to-video WDTVA products paved the fall of Walt Disney Feature Animation.


Agreed. And what sucks most about it is that WDAS lost its reputation not for its own work, but mostly for the less-than-stellar work of the DTV unit.

Since, of course, most people do not differentiate between The Walt Disney Company and Walt Disney Animation Studios.


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I love how colorful the disney movie covers are! :)


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I've seen almost all of the direct-to-video sequels, though to be honest in my opinion most of them don't have that many redeeming qualities. There a few that I do like though. I have no problems with the "Lilo & Stitch" or "Winnie the Pooh" features, since most have pretty consistent animation, and I like the two tv series (New Adventures of Pooh and Lilo & Stitch: The Series). I do feel that a lot of these sequels could have benefited from a bit more consistent animation, but it's obvious that budget and time constraints didn't allow that. Especially "The Wrath of Jafar" has some abysmal animation, which is too bad, because it could have been a lot more entertaining if you weren't forced to cringe each time some character's face was jacked up. "King of Thieves" is better in that aspect.


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Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robinson
The Tigger Movie
The Lion King 1/2 (Doesn't add much to the story overall, but at least it was somewhat entertaining.)
Lilo & Stitch 2: Stitch has a Glitch (I agree with Enigmawing, I thought it was slightly depressing.)
Aladdin: The Wrath of Jafar (Despite very noticeable subpar animation.)
Aladdin and the King of Thieves

Dislike
The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 (The animation is... weird in this one.)
Mulan 2 (Female empowerment in my movies? We must fix that! Begone demons.)
Fox and the Hound 2 ('Midquels' are the epitome of unnecessary.)
101 Dalmatians II (Films created with the Xerox process should especially have never gotten sequels as they will never be able to re-create the style of the original.)
Jungle Book 2 (The voices was what made the original for me, so I knew that this was going to be a disappointment before I even put it on.)
Lady and the Tramp II
Pocahontas 2
Cinderella II: Dreams Do Make Your Hair a Different Colour (Happily ever after... j/k)
Belle's Magical Off-Modelness
Tarzan 2
The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and Watch Me Grow a Different Personality
Bambi 2 (The animation isn't all that bad, but the original isn't one of my favourites to begin with, so this one leaves me cold.)

Eh...
Return to Neverland
Beauty & The Beast: The Enchanted Christmas (I like the antagonist.)
Piglet's Big Movie
the "Heffalump" movies


I think it's great that some people get enjoyment out of these sequels, they do give you more 'time' -so to speak- with the characters, rather than limit you to one film, only to never see them again. With that said, I think most of them are pretty unnecessary. The ones I dislike don't ruin my enjoyment of the originals however, so it's all good.


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My problem isn't so much that there are sequels, but the fact that most of them are so completely horrendous. Yeah, most any Disney sequel would be unnecessary, but the least it could be is somewhat fun and not cringe-inducing. That said, there are a few that are decent and moderately entertaining, but there are so many really bad ones.

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really, do we need another thread like this? It'll just be the same people bashing sequels. I actually enjoy some of the sequels. I own most of them and for years they were the only thing keeping 2D animation alive with Disney. Though, out sourced... :|

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...Aladdin: The Wrath of Jafar (Despite very noticeable subpar animation.)...

Is it really called The Wrath of Jafar in the Netherlands? I like that title better than The Return of Jafar!

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Yep, it's called "De Wraak van Jafar" which literally translates to "The Wrath of Jafar". For some reason I completely forgot the official title was "The Return of Jafar".


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I was sad he wasn't in part 2 haha


But he died in the first one... And it would have lessened his character if he was in the sequel.

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TheValentineBros wrote:
[...] and Universal is also guilty for too many goddamn Land Before Time sequels. [...]

I remember seeing an ad somewhere for Land Before Time- Part 12!!! I was like: "Oooooo-kaaaaaaay.... what the fuck?!"

By the way, read this thread about Disney sequels if you dare:
http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... s+marathon

Don't do it if you are easily offended. :D

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I like the sequels, unlike everyone here who treats them like the plague.

I can only think of one thing Disney has ever created that's worse than the sequels...

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IMHO, these overmarketed dreck-to-video WDTVA products paved the fall of Walt Disney Feature Animation - - tossing away decades of audience goodwill and trust in the quality of Disney artistic integrity, the art of animation and the unique qualities of the classic characters and storytelling. Except for the very short-term bottom line, this frown-factory initiative was a total disaster for Walt's creative legacy, irreparably changing how the former "premium brand" was perceived and experienced (see also Disney Channel).


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I like the sequels, unlike everyone here who treats them like the plague.


I like them too but all I see are people becoming more and more like Sith all over the net.


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Ohhh, another sequel bashing sequence to satisfy the abundant "Leonard Maltins" of the forum!

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I like them too but all I see are people becoming more and more like Sith all over the net.


WAT?

What does Darth Vader has to do with Disney Sequels?

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Ohhh, another sequel bashing sequence to satisfy the abundant "Leonard Maltins" of the forum!


I hate Maltin. He's such a faggot.

You can collect sequels, reyquila cause you're cool.

You are bravely determined to become the #1 Disney Master.

You wanna be the very best. Like no one ever has. To buy them is your real test. To watch them is your cause. You will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Each DVD to understand. The power that's inside!

Disneymon, it's you and me. You know it's your destiny. Oh, we're your best friend in a world you must defend. Disneymon.....A HEART SO TRUUUUUEEEEE. Your courage will pull us through. You teach me and I'll teach you(sex I mean)....DIZ....NEY.....MMMMMOOOOOOONNNN!!!

gotta buy em all.


Go get your dream Reyquila Ketchum.

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You are bravely determined to become the #1 Disney Master.

You wanna be the very best. Like no one ever has. To buy them is your real test. To watch them is your cause. You will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Each DVD to understand. The power that's inside!

Disneymon, it's you and me. You know it's your destiny. Oh, we're your best friend in a world you must defend. Disneymon.....A HEART SO TRUUUUUEEEEE. Your courage will pull us through. You teach me and I'll teach you(sex I mean)....DIZ....NEY.....MMMMMOOOOOOONNNN!!!

gotta buy em all.


Go get your dream Reyquila Ketchum.



OH. MY. BEST POST EVER.

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You are bravely determined to become the #1 Disney Master.

You wanna be the very best. Like no one ever has. To buy them is your real test. To watch them is your cause. You will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Each DVD to understand. The power that's inside!

Disneymon, it's you and me. You know it's your destiny. Oh, we're your best friend in a world you must defend. Disneymon.....A HEART SO TRUUUUUEEEEE. Your courage will pull us through. You teach me and I'll teach you(sex I mean)....DIZ....NEY.....MMMMMOOOOOOONNNN!!!

gotta buy em all.


Go get your dream Reyquila Ketchum.



OH. MY. BEST POST EVER.



people are being consumed with hate like vadar.


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<b>Imagine if they really made Dumbo II! hahaha

That one actually sounds kind of ghetto but I would most likely watch it.

Whenever I think I'm not going to like a movie I end up liking it if not loving it! :lol:
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OH. MY. BEST POST EVER.


It sure was. :lol:

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