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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:34 pm 
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I think it is the best non-Disney animated film to date. MUCH better than Shrek, Polar Express, and the other recent non-Disneys which as garbage compared to previous films.

Lynn Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty wrote SPECTACULAR music for the production which is regularly heard at auditions for school musicals across the States. LOVELY LOVELY LOVELY score. Lovely, fun, memorable, classy, brilliant.

OUTSTANDING animation, fantastic villain, wonderful comedic relief sidekick.

Where's out 2-disc special edition? C'mon, Fox!!

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It's good for what it's worth: an animated musical. Saying it's the best non-Disney animated feature is a bit of an exaggeration. Every Studio Ghibli picture I've seen is better, and in the realm of animated musicals, I would say The Prince of Egypt, and even Cats Don't Dance rank higher up. There's also a lot of adult animation that I would prefer: Waking Life, The Triplets of Belleville, ect. Chicken Run is an underrated artistic achievement, as is James and the Giant Peach. Give me the wry, witty, and satirical Shrek Franchise anyday! :)

I think the animation is really poor, too dark to be appealing and the art direction is paint-by-numbers. Fox (and any other animation studio for that matter) has never been good with character designs and so they look off-model all the time! The music is beautiful, though, I'll give you that. The "journey" song should have been nominated for an Oscar, even though I like the one Aaliyah sung too.

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This is a favorite of mine but I felt they made Rasputin too comical. In truth, Rasputin manipulated the Romanovs, especially the wife and older daughters. He was a sick man. I think these issues could have been brought up better without the popping eyeballs and rotting corpse. He turned out to be funny, rather then scary. I would say a better personality for Rasputin in the movie would have been one like Scar in Lion King. Scar had an air of manipulation and sarcasim. He was just too comical. Bartok was there for the comedy relief. I saw Rasputin more as a gross, Garbage Pail Kid 50 years later, then a scary, potentially dangerous villian. He was in the end, but the effect was still lost on me by the time he tried to redeem himself a villian.

Anastasia was well drawn both in animation and personality. She wasn't the annoying princess type, but she wasn't the know-it-all, street smart either. Dimitri was a less then perfect hero, which I enjoyed. He reminded me a bit of Aladdin and his personality was well fleshed out.

The music was better then many Disney movies. Especially Journey to the Past and even more so with Once Upon a December. That is a HAUNTING song, totally unforgetable to me. I really enjoy it. Both versions, though I prefer the movie version more because of the chorus.

CGI wasn't too bad. The train wreck scene was neat looking. I also liked the humour of the movie. I liked how Anastasia and Dimitri played off each other. I also much say Angela Lansbury gave a wonderful preformance with her grandmother. The animation of their reunion scene was beautiful and well detailed.

Overall, I rate it an 7.5. Again, if it wasn't for the villian, I could feel I'd rate it higher. Chrisopher Lloyd did a great job for the script and character they gave him, but he's done better voice work with better villians (Exp...Ducktales: The Movie)


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"Once Upon A December" is one of my favorite scenes in any animated film EVER. Haunting only BEGINS to describe the feeling. This would make a great IMAX feature.

"Journey to the Past" WAS nominated for an Oscar. The same year "Go the Distance" from HERCULES was nominated. Both lost to "My Heart Will Go On" from TITANIC.

I rather liked Rasputin, but agreed that if more dark and less comical, he could have improved.

Are you kidding me? I *love* CATS DON'T DANCE, but hardly on par with ANASTASIA and PRINCE OF EGYPT.

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I really love Anastasia my family thinks it's Disney but I'm like it's Fox.

Fox always shows Anastasia during Thanksgiving and Christams and I love to watch it on DVD instead.

Oh yeah I love the song Once Upon A December!!!!!! :D

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Yeah, but remember that comedy is one of the strong bets when a new movie is being made.
Maybe a more realistic or evil Rasputin would had be great but it might scaried the little ones.
Anyway, the movie ended as a good Christmas movie(at least IMO) and Bartok was funny.

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I saw some of Anastasia at my cousin's house but we never saw the end. I always wondered what it was until I saw the DVD on sale at FYE last year. When I watched it again in full length for the first time, I was truly impressed with it. As everyone has said, the music is wonderful and Liz Callaway (Anastasia's singing voice) performed beautifully! I thought it was Meg Ryan (btw, she also did a great job as Anastasia) singing at first but I was surprised when I saw a different name in the credits. I went on imdb and found out she also sang for Jasmine in Return of Jafar and Kiara in Lion King II! I watched those again and you can definitely hear her!

Anyhow, the story of Anastasia is quite the modern fairy tale even though this film kind of exaggerated truth, but who cares? It made a better movie! I loved the music and the animation and could easily see how many mistaken it for a Disney movie (though the design of the human characters was not Disney).

Rasputin...he was just okay for me. I thought he wasn't really needed for the movie and the story of Anastasia finding her family and discovering who she was was enough, but then I realized why bother animating it w/o Rasputin and his plotline. He gave the movie a needed villain, but like in the animated King and I, he was too outrageous to fit with the very real story. His song was pretty good, but it reminded me A LOT of the music of Les Miserables. Lol, Jim Cummings was his singing voice and I could hear evil Tigger or Pete or Scar right away :lol: !

Overall, I loved Anastasia and I'm glad to have the DVD to watch it over and over again. Though my one complaint about the DVD is that the two featurettes are exactly the same, just with different narrations! The cast did wonderfully and it was awesome that it was an all star cast! It was hard for me to accept a russian Mrs. Potts, but after repeated viewings, I realized Angela Lansbury did a great job. I guess I watched BatB too much to hear her as anything else.

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I've loved Anastasia for years, although I am well aware of its many faults. I agree with Kram that Rasputin was a rather unnecessary villain and have even skipped through his scenes during various viewings of the film. I find Bartok a little annoying too, but I like Anastasia as a heroine, and Dimitri is pretty much the nicest-looking animated male around.

Two things that annoy me most in the movie:

1). The not-so-good transition between regular to computer animation

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2). The fact that everyone has a Russian accent besides Anastasia and Dimitri (and Sophie, of course, who is French)

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I've loved Anastasia for years, although I am well aware of its many faults. I agree with Kram that Rasputin was a rather unnecessary villain and have even skipped through his scenes during various viewings of the film. I find Bartok a little annoying too, but I like Anastasia as a heroine, and Dimitri is pretty much the nicest-looking animated male around.

Two things that annoy me most in the movie:

1). The not-so-good transition between regular to computer animation

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2). The fact that everyone has a Russian accent besides Anastasia and Dimitri (and Sophie, of course, who is French)


Wow!!! Renata has a favorite non-Disney film.

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I can't say i've seen it but i must admit it does kinda look better than most non-disney films...

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well, if Ani and Dimitri couldn´t be understood by the people, hw will they will feel identified with them and why would they buy the DVD and the mercadishing stuff?


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I've always liked Anastasia. The music is sweet and haunting, and the animation was good.
I agree about the whole Rasputin/villian thing, but then again, when does an animated movie correctly relay what actually happened? I think they didn't want to make him as intense a villian as some of the Disney ones.

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I don't think anything can touch Prince of Egypt or Joseph, King of Dreams. They're just on awhole other level. I never liked Anastasia much. It had good songs, but it tried too hard to copy the Disney formula, and quite frankly, it was, like Hunchback, a rather creepy thing to make an animated movie about! And Rasputin was basically a decomposing version of Jafar.


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Though better than alot of Dreamworks films, I found this film a bit boring. My favorite non-Disney movies are Chicken Run and The Iron Giant!


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I thought we discussed this. There is no such thing as a "Disney formula." :wink:

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I am interested in seeing this, but I must admit that some of the comments being made here are swaying me away from seeing the film, of which I have been thinking of blind buying (I've seen it in a sale in a pack with two other films for £9.99). I may go for it, as I hear that the bonus features are supposedly good for a 1 discer, so even if I hate the movie, I'll still have something to enjoy. :)

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I GUARENTEE you will NOT hate this movie! It's brilliant. Better than the recent Disney films we've gotten.

You will NOT be disappointed in buying this film!

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I really LOVED Anastasia but I was disappointed that it was only a 1-disc. :roll: BUT, I was also glad Wal-Mart put it on sale for $4.88! :)

The songs are amazing and so memorable! And (hahaha) it has such a cute and romantic story! I mean, yea, it bugged me when the CGI was combined in there with the 2D animation (i.e.: the music box when the Dowager Empress was holding it) but I found it to be cool after watching it many many times. :p

Rasputin annoyed the hell out of me and though it wasn't exactly the story of Anastasia, he did make a good villain. Bartok made it funnier (he's like the iago to jafar but a lot nicer!).

I also thought the cast was a great choice and matched the characters! :) That made the movie more enjoyable. As for bonus features, I'm glad they put Aaliyah in there...

...would've been cool if Disney picked it up. They could've used it. ;)

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I love this movie. It has many faults, but it still manages to entertain the whole family (without turning to bathroom jokes :P ). It's a true animated classic despite its small popularity. I haven't bought it yet. I'm hoping that a new edition will come soon (since the old is to become OOP real soon).

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I ADORE Anastasia. I own the DVD and agree that it needs a 2-disc with anamorphic widescreen. Music videos would also be a good idea. I always wished that the Journey To The Past video had been included. The more Aaliyah, the better.

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