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akhenaten · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:22 am Post subject:

well if this matters to anyone disney already have its first BLACK princess outside of the animated echelon and that is AIDA.

and as much as i love brandy and whitney in cinderella, i just thought it was a wrong match for the story. there's no castle for africans, arabians, chinese, malay only palaces and the fairies of these cultures r somewhat different. maybe in this view deeto shares my sentiment and thats what he's trying to tell. sorry if its not deeto.

but u guys, lets just wait and see ok..for all we know disney may have heard papibear's rants about a black princess and decides to make his day but with this bickering going about they might just scrape the idea and make the first Latin American princess instead. Cool

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Ting Ting · Limited Edition Joined: 23 Jul 2006

I understand what darth_detoo is saying.

I'm all for Disney creating a black princess. The only thing I'm worried about is that the plot of the film is going to be all about stressing the fact that the lead role is black. I don't understand why the film can't be about a black character but still have a normal story that is aimed at all audiences.

A good example of how a movie or television show with an all-black cast should be is The Cosby Show. The show is entertaining for everyone because it deals with everyday people living their lives just like the rest of us. None of the characters run around pointing out that they're black, they're normal people who don't give a rip about what your race is. It's fun for everyone!
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darth_deetoo · Collector's Edition Joined: 24 Aug 2006

Well, it's already become a big point of hype for the movie, which I think goes someway to backing up my concerns.

We didn't have this whole publicity hooplah when we had an Arabian princess in Aladdin, an Asian princess in Mulan or a Native American princess in Pocahontas - so why are they making such a big fuss about this?

Although, to be fair - it's probably the media that's making more of a fuss over it.
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Julian Carter · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:56 am Post subject:

Well PapiBear, I think this is incredible. Don't you even dare deny that you're trying to start a fight. Mad

Please don't be so irresponsible and immature!

And now, I guess I can finally say that I like the new title.

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PeterPanfan · Walt Disney Treasure Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Location: USA

I'm excited for this movie. I think it's going to be good.
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Chernabog_Rocks · Limited Edition Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Location: Tar Valon

This movie sounds like it's going to be good. I wonder what the Prince's role will be in the movie (unless it's been mentioned already and I just missed it). One thing I'm wondering is about the villain what is his motive or what is he after? Hopefully he will be really evil and make up for some of the dud villains we've had recently.

beefsteak · Newbie Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: California, USA

I seriously don't see how you could have been offended by his post PapiBear. If he wouldn't have said that, than I would have. Are you not familiar with the term "political correctness"? That "chip on the shoulder" statement doesn't sound too off base either.

I completely agree with deeto. As cool as it would be to finally see a black, human, animated princess (gotta be specific here), doing it just for the sake of doing it is a terrible idea. The whole story line and setting sounds really forced and hokey to me too. Well here's hoping, but I fear this princess heroine will simply be lost in the dredges of a poorly conceived concept.

pap64 · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject:

Sorry to bump this, but I read the Frog Princess article on Jim Hill Media in the afternoon. Its such a shame that there is so much controversy surrounding the movie way before a teaser is released! The movie could be a very lovely return to Disney Fairy Tales and Princess Tiana could be a wonderful addition to the princesses, no matter the color of her skin.

What annoys me the most about this is the hypocrisy. I mean, for years some people have complained that the minorities are poorly represented on the Disney films. But when they finally feature a minority story they complain that its too racist! They did it with Aladdin and Mulan, and Frog Princess looks to be next in line.

This makes me wonder, one of my dreams is to create a Latina Disney Princess (me being of Latin heritage and all). Will people complain that I am painting a negative portrait of Latinos simply because the story would focus on all the things that make Latinos unique?
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Julian Carter · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:59 am Post subject:

Let's just face it. The world we live in is just full of bs. Rolling Eyes

Daisy Duck · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:

I'm disappointed. I love the name Maddie and the liked the title of Frog Princess. I, too, think Princess and the Frog just doesn't sound original enough. Still, I'm very much looking forward to this movie and the New Orleans setting.

PapiBear · Banned Joined: 06 May 2003 Location: Houston, TX

Well, for me the true test will come when it's time to incorporate this character into the parks; whether the character is a face character (real person) or a costume. The other princesses played by real people are, most of the time, white girls in heavy makeup, including Jasmine, Pocahontas, and Mulan.
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SpringHeelJack · Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject:

I should hope it would be a real person. I mean, it's not like you can do blackface, is it? Disney would catch hell for that.
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OK, I know this is being discussed now, but here's a neat little summary from IMDB

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singerguy04 · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject:

Although Tiana wont be working for the rich girl anymore, I really hope that the rich girl is still in the story. She seemed like she could've been a very fun character.

Right now i'm wondering if Disney is still going to go for the whole prince of england thing. if there was one more change i could make, it'd be that. I just hate the idea of making up history like this. Why not use a prince from a made up country, or not even specify where he's from. Do we know where any of the princes live except aladdin?

By the time this film is released the story will probably have had some minor changes anyway. I just want to see all the concept art along the way.
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Disney-Fan · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject:

Beast - France
Snow White Prince - Germany
Eric - Denmark
Cinderella Prince - France
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SpringHeelJack · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:

Yeah, that's why I have to try distancing reality from Disney. Like, it seems odd to me that with the Beast being a French prince, no one was ever like "Hey, remember that annoying guy who used to rule us? Whatever happened to him?".
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