I couldn't agree more with you. I think that what they did on the Ratatouille Bluray was great. It allows you to get to the cineexplore content straight away without having to watch the whole movie if one doesn't feel like.Kyle wrote:But most of all I would have liked to have seen the cinexplore content viewable by itself.
I think it's more annoying that they didn't include the commentary and cine explore on disc 1. No wonder they had to drop stuff, with the movie on both discs.Kyle wrote:Okay, I just made my way through All of the bonus material. What Im about to say might come off more negative than I intend, but do know what I love what is there. and this is only about the bonus content, nothing about movie itself.
my gripes are with what was omitted more than anything. and this could be because I'm just spoiled by how great the toy story content has been in the past. but some things I hoped for or expected but were not there were
An effects only soundtrack.
Young andy home video footage without the VHS filter. (kinda like how we got the Buzz commmercial in the first movie)
set flybys and character rotations. this could have been a great way to illustrate the differences in the older character models compared to the new ones.
Hardly anything on Randy Newman. and a general lack of interviews from the rest of the brain trust. I know their probably busy doing their own projects, but I would have liked to have heard more from there perspective about how they set everything in motion for TS3. Laseter was hardly shown at all except in other divisions like the theme park and toys.
Was Joe Rant mentioned at any point? Not that I can recall.
But most of all I would have liked to have seen the cinexplore content viewable by itself. Didn't they do that, or something to that effect with Ratatouille? They also did some cooler things in that they gave you the option to jump out of the movie and watch the film makers do their thing for a bit before heading back to the movie. To me that was a more interesting way to handle it. I prefer an organized way of viewing animations tests and whatnot. having it thrown up on screen during the movie is great, but I don't want that to be my only option.
I know most people will probably never know these are gone, this is really just the geek in me who maybe went into this release with expectations a bit too high, but can you blame me? it was pixar themselves that set the bar so high. They already outdo every other studio in terms of bonus content, and again I absolutlely loved everything that we did get. even when it seemed a bit goofy and irrelevant. I just think they could have been more consistent with the content from the previous two toy stories.
Now, onto some random things I did like, in more detail. cineexplore was great, and the alternate commentary was just as informative as the first. The life of a shot was great, it really shows how much effort from people with all sorts of skill sets come together. (I'm surprised more cameos weren't pointed out like Lasseter likes to do. oh well)
The setting the story in motion thing by Michael Arndt was fantastic, Ive never been a good story writer but seeing this makes me feel like I'd be more prepared if I were to ever put in an effort to try. It illustrated with clear visuals a good template that you could use (potentially) in crafting a great story. Its of course nothing you should apply to all stories, but it does seem to be solid foundation to start from.
Grab bag was the closest thing to new toy story treats we'll get. it'll at least hold us over until the toy story shorts start releasing.
They did a great job with the publicity section, all the trailers (like my favorite, gadgets) was there, even the super rare Japanese poster that has Woody in front instead of buzz. (anyone able to get me a 1080p screenshot of that for me by the way?)
So yeah, that was kind of my rant/review. Again, don't get me wrong, this is a must own, absolutely. I just feel like the extras were a bit thin by their standards. and it aggravates me that would purposely leave out things like the prison doc for i tunes exclusivity. when you pay for the blu ray you deserve the whole package, and this release could have used more content if they already had it ready to go.
Wouldn't the men in the garbage truck see them, if they jumped right in front of it?Kyle wrote:The commentary brought up an interesting plot hole during the losto confrontation around the dumpster. the toys could have simply jumped down (towards the fourth wall basically) but they tried to hide it the best they could with camera angles. Now when I see that scene its kinda all I can think about. In my mind I'm asking the toys why they feel like they need to jump across in the first place? there has to be an open space there for the truck, so there's really no excuse.
I think Pixar could have done tweaked this scene a little more. Maybe I'm not the average movie goer so I noticed they could have stayed put in the chute, you even see stretch going back up it.KubrickFan wrote:Wouldn't the men in the garbage truck see them, if they jumped right in front of it?Kyle wrote:The commentary brought up an interesting plot hole during the losto confrontation around the dumpster. the toys could have simply jumped down (towards the fourth wall basically) but they tried to hide it the best they could with camera angles. Now when I see that scene its kinda all I can think about. In my mind I'm asking the toys why they feel like they need to jump across in the first place? there has to be an open space there for the truck, so there's really no excuse.
Which I really don't get. Lee said on twitter that they made that decision to give priority to the film's picture quality. which would make sense, except I thought it wasn't necessary to have two separate video feeds to do cinexplore? I thought that was what made blu ray more appealing, that they could run two videos simultaneously, saving space. I see no reason they couldn't have kept the high bitrate of the movie as well as put cinexplore on the same disk. They apparently have the cinexplore content embedded directly onto the video, I see nothing that suggests otherwise.KubrickFan wrote:I think it's more annoying that they didn't include the commentary and cine explore on disc 1. No wonder they had to drop stuff, with the movie on both discs.
Nah, it was kinda dark and foggy. I don't think the driver would be able to distinguish the toys from some random animal if they were to be seen.KubrickFan wrote:Wouldn't the men in the garbage truck see them, if they jumped right in front of it?
If you choose the commentary by the technical crew, the movie plays without the cine-explore content, so it's not embedded. It's just that the movie cannot be played without a commentary, on disc 2.Kyle wrote:
Which I really don't get. Lee said on twitter that they made that decision to give priority to the film's picture quality. which would make sense, except I thought it wasn't necessary to have two separate video feeds to do cinexplore? I thought that was what made blu ray more appealing, that they could run two videos simultaneously, saving space. I see no reason they couldn't have kept the high bitrate of the movie as well as put cinexplore on the same disk. They apparently have the cinexplore content embedded directly onto the video, I see nothing that suggests otherwise.
I think it's just something you really shouldn't think too much about. It's kinda like the ending of The Shawshank Redemption. If you try to analyze it, it will fall apart.Kyle wrote: Nah, it was kinda dark and foggy. I don't think the driver would be able to distinguish the toys from some random animal if they were to be seen.
You're the first to catch that. Hundreds of eyes on every shot in the film, but occasionally things like that are missed.
Did you ask if they plan to change it in the future/now?Kyle wrote:Oh I wasn't suggesting that it was only for the blue ray release, but it had to have made it through both the finalized theatrical cut and even the blu rays themselves. If something like this didn't get caught and fixed for the theatical version, I would assume they would fix it in time for the home releases. this should be an easy fix too if they ever decide to do it.
I'm sure it's noted but literally i looked today it's not even for a fraction of a second do u see itBK wrote:Did you ask if they plan to change it in the future/now?Kyle wrote:Oh I wasn't suggesting that it was only for the blue ray release, but it had to have made it through both the finalized theatrical cut and even the blu rays themselves. If something like this didn't get caught and fixed for the theatical version, I would assume they would fix it in time for the home releases. this should be an easy fix too if they ever decide to do it.
I try to limit my questions to him, don't want to bug him too much. I think it helps my chances of him responding to other things I might ask later. he's answered most of my questions so far, but I'd hate to get into annoying fan territory. hehBK wrote:Did you ask if they plan to change it in the future/now?
I see some slight banding in the closing dissolve, but no such thing during Jessie's sonic boom (which is what I assume you meant by explosion).MattDean wrote:has anyone else noticed the, albeit brief, banding that appears on the whole screen in the wild west scene - thinks it's the bit when Jessie makes the explosion and again when the film's final scene of the sky dissolves into black? I know I'm being picky, it just struck me as I haven't noticed banding before on Pixar blus and it surprised me as it's a new release with more gig space devoted to it.
To be honest, I wasn't as blown away with the transfer as a whole - it just doesn't look as detailed/sharp overall as I expected, but then again I suppose they wanted it to look authentic compared to 1 and 2.
actually its at least a second, if not a bit more.CampbellzSoup wrote: literally i looked today it's not even for a fraction of a second do u see it
It just didn't jump out to me as much as I was expecting but I was in part referring to the general look of the characters not having as much detail in their textures as perhaps characters in other recent Pixar films which, I believe, was in some way the film makers intent as they wanted the characters to look consistent through the films.Kyle wrote:[And its ridiculous to think they'd downgrade the picture quality to match the last two. For one, the first two are nearly perfect as well. I only say nearly because I did notice some banding in the sky when Buzz lands on that planet in the opening. but aside from that I saw no flaws. If there's any time the picture isn't sharp its because of focal blur, which is of course completely intentional.
