Define artist.Disney Duster wrote:I'm an artist too, so if anyone's insulted, you can't be when there's no insult to take.
Because that word is being thrown around so randomly these days.
Technically an artist is one who creates art. Art is anything made with the intention of being appreciated.PatrickvD wrote:Define artist.Disney Duster wrote:I'm an artist too, so if anyone's insulted, you can't be when there's no insult to take.
Because that word is being thrown around so randomly these days.
The bad they did is the kind of material they have made, some of it certainly is bad. And once again, it's not that they just did adult content, I'm explained it a hundred times, it's the kind of adult content they made. And the people who watch the shows are not bad if they only like the good parts and dislike the bad parts. But the creators of the bad parts should not be at Disney.DisneyAnimation88 wrote:As is every human being. Everyone has flaws but these people haven't killed anyone or committed any kind of atrocity, all they're guilty of by your logic is working on films and TV shows with adult content so that makes them "bad". It's just ridiculously judgemental to make a claim like that. So are the people who watch and enjoy those things bad as well?Disney Duster wrote:Well in some ways they certainly are bad.
How about we wait for the movie to come out, watch it, and then complain about it.Disney Duster wrote:What Kyle said.
The bad they did is the kind of material they have made, some of it certainly is bad. And once again, it's not that they just did adult content, I'm explained it a hundred times, it's the kind of adult content they made. And the people who watch the shows are not bad if they only like the good parts and dislike the bad parts. But the creators of the bad parts should not be at Disney.DisneyAnimation88 wrote: As is every human being. Everyone has flaws but these people haven't killed anyone or committed any kind of atrocity, all they're guilty of by your logic is working on films and TV shows with adult content so that makes them "bad". It's just ridiculously judgemental to make a claim like that. So are the people who watch and enjoy those things bad as well?
Okay, so you're all annoyed. Well sorry. I see something wrong, and I'm trying to explain it, and none of you want to believe such a bad thing could be happening to Disney so you will just shut it out. But I won't stand for something I see as wrong.
That's not the definition of art where I'm from. But let's not get into that.Kyle wrote:Technically an artist is one who creates art. Art is anything made with the intention of being appreciated.PatrickvD wrote: Define artist.
Because that word is being thrown around so randomly these days.
If you really want to take a stand, the best thing you could do would be to ignore this film completely and don't spend your money on a ticket when it's released, if it really is as blasphemous to you as you're saying. Because the rest of us aren't in denial about this film as you seem to be suggesting by saying we don't believe a "bad thing" is happening to Disney, we're actually willing to give it a chance and are looking forward to it and nothing you say will change that.Disney Duster wrote:Okay, so you're all annoyed. Well sorry. I see something wrong, and I'm trying to explain it, and none of you want to believe such a bad thing could be happening to Disney so you will just shut it out. But I won't stand for something I see as wrong.
Amen to this.PatrickvD wrote:Wreck-it-Ralph people!! It looks great so far.
I've drawn stuff that caters to an adult audience. Guess that means I can never ever ever draw anything Disney or children's-related ever in my life.But the creators of the bad parts should not be at Disney.
Ditto.LySs wrote:I've drawn stuff that caters to an adult audience. Guess that means I can never ever ever draw anything Disney or children's-related ever in my life.
There goes my dreams!!
This. There has been a lot of art created by and past amongst Disney animators ever since the beginning of the studio. My professor at school showed us a Marc Davis Tinkerbell nude from the 50s (Marc Davis, by the way, animated Cinderella, Duster), and much less "wholesome" - a drawing of Snow White and the dwarfs umm... ahem... we'll just say they certainly aren't making gooseberry pie. I can't remember who the artist on that one was, but the point is that the artists that worked on the films that go down as the best family films in history were also able to have a separate "adult" side to them. I think if there was someone who could ONLY find comfort or humor in child friendly things, theres an issue. They ARE adults. It's one thing to never lose sight of your childhood, but it's another thing to actually never grow up.enigmawing wrote:Oh, and by the way, Fred Moore drew pin-ups and nudes that weren't exactly wholesome, family-friendly material and he was one of the most famous animators of the studio during Walt's time . . .
Hey sorry, I didn't know so many people would be linking back to the website. I randomly changed the link but changed it back to the original link, which is this one:qindarka wrote:http://www.therotoscopers.com/episodes/ ... eview.html
Here are some people's opinions on the film after watching a test-screening.
Awesome, thanks! Listening to it now.TheRotoscopers wrote:Hey sorry, I didn't know so many people would be linking back to the website. I randomly changed the link but changed it back to the original link, which is this one:qindarka wrote:http://www.therotoscopers.com/episodes/ ... eview.html
Here are some people's opinions on the film after watching a test-screening.
http://www.therotoscopers.com/episodes/ ... ening.html