Disney Duster wrote:Actually I was referring to how people in the 1950's actually did refer to Walt as a fairy tale teller. It's a telling sign. If you want my personal opinion, all those films you mentioned are fantastic or fantastical as well as kind of idealized in a fairy tale way.
I don't agree. There's an element of fantasy and make-believe in every Disney film, that doesn't make them all fairy tales, or even like a fairy tale. How is Treasure Island in anyway a fairy tale? There is nothing in that film that makes it a fairy tale, it is a classic story, the basis for many Disney films. To refer to Walt Disney as simply a "fairy tale teller" is ignoring the huge number of his films that aren't fairy tales.
Disney Duster wrote:Yes, but don't actions speak louder than words? He repeated similarities in his films. He never made a film about technology. The actions, the evidence. His quote is also INTERPRETABLE and I could interpret it to mean he wanted the mediums he worked in to advance, but still be about classic subjects.
Wreck-It Ralph ISN'T a film ABOUT technology, it's about characters that exist in a digital world derived from fantasy and make-believe. Interpret it however you want, the meaning is pretty clear to me especially:
Walt Disney wrote:We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things, because we're curious.....And curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.
Keep moving forward...opening up new doors...doing new things...going down new paths...seems pretty clear to me what Walt was saying here.
Disney Duster wrote:Two fairy tales and nothing based on futuristic technology.
Find the quote where Walt Disney says:
"In the future, I never want my company to try anything new or different or take advantage of any advancements in society or technology that come along after I am gone that will help them to create new and original stories. Instead, they must only make films based on fairy tales and talking animals or copy things that I have done in my career."
Find anything similar to that and I might join you in being eternally stuck in the past.
Disney Duster wrote:BUT I am wondering how they will actually show this to the audience so we know?
What does it matter how the characters come to life? For God's sake, it's a Disney film, what does logic matter? In Disney films, you leave reality at the door and if the story is good enough it allows you to escape into whatever world is presented to you on screen. Did you sit through Cinderella wondering "how do the mice talk?"
Disney Duster wrote:This time Disney is making a movie about video games saying they are real, not a video game that says the characters in it represent something real.
They're making a film about a world that exists in video games, separate from our own. Where are they saying that the worlds that exist in video games are "real"? In what way is any animated Disney film "real"? These films and characters each have their own distinct worlds in which they exist.
Disney Duster wrote:most of my repeating of it has been in reply to people not understanding what I mean and just hating. :/
You say this in every debate and, yet again, it's not the case, no one is misunderstanding you or "just hating"; I think it's fair to say that those of us involved in this particular discussion see some obvious flaws in your argument and simply don't agree with what you're saying. Are you honestly saying that you can sit through Cinderella and get lost in the narrative and enjoy the film for what it is, pure fantasy and escapism, but you won't do the same for Wreck-It Ralph?