I really liked the last episode! I mean, the Lady of the Lake thing I find weird since King Arthur is actually kinda supposed to be real, but they never officially say it's her...it's just so obviously a steal from it though. Anyway, I actually liked Katherine when she became assertive and you really got what she was doing and how she wanted to better herself, as well as help the prince in fairy tale land.
But why did they make her lover a much younger than her high school boy? And randomly I wanted to say for a while now, I love the Mayor's office, I love how it's decorated, that's one classy lady lol. And now I super hate Regina along with liking her lol she was like Cinderella's stepmother in this episode, keys and all!
slave2moonlight wrote:I think it showed well enough that he hated both himself and how others treated him in the past. They are interrelated. One means the other, really. People aren't just born hating themselves.
No, but some people want to be different even though other people like them the way they are. Anyway, Rumplestiltskin had a wife and a kid, who I'm guessing loved him. If it is revealed his wife left him, which maybe she did, okay, but still, he groveled to people, but he didn't seem to hate himself. If he had some "sad reflecting" moments with him clearly hating himself, or some hateful dialogue of himself with the guy who made him Rumplestiltskin, okay. When he got his power, he almost seemed to love himself. So, I dunno. Your explanation is great, I just wish we actually got that more in the show. And once again, Belle was pointing out to him that if the kiss worked it was proof it was true love, so he needed to really super hate himself to be so blinded to the big proof there, which I don't think they built up enough.
tsom wrote:Can I say that I actually liked Gaston?
Me too lol
tsom wrote:Oohh, I felt that slap! Why is this witch so freaking evil?!?! Some people will stop at nothing to ruin other people's happiness. Why? What do you gain from it?
If your own life sucks, it makes you feel better, or if you really hate someone, it just makes you feel good to see they didn't get their perfectness you don't think they deserve. And then there are some people who perhaps like ruining other's happiness so much we probably can't understand it because we're not them and it's something in them we don't have. I hope not though. Maybe anyone can just get into that somehow.
slave2moonlight wrote:Well, my main problem was the whole thing with Mary Margaret. I didn't really like her attitude in this episode. I'm not sure why she thinks people would treat her any better if David had told Katherine about the affair, or that Katherine would have taken it any better. And, he really was just trying to spare Katherine's feelings. Is this some kind of female logic I'm missing? So, he ends his marriage for her and then she says it's not real and ends things with him too. Kind of a bitchy move there. I mean, there's no way for this to have gone nicely, and I think Mary Margaret should have just been glad that David was free of Katherine now. He's the one who had to leave his spouse, not her, so she was a bit hard on him in not realizing how difficult it would be, I think. (and, I do not condone "affairs", but there's a lot of evil witchery behind things that go on here, so I make an exception for these two; David certainly was lame to take so long with this).
I pretty much completely agree except for the last part since I think sometimes (or maybe a lot more often than we wish) people marry the wrong person and they find someone they love more, and it grows for a while before they finally realize they have to end their marriage. You wouldn't want to end your marriage before knowing you really love someone else, would you?
But anyway, yes, Mary Margaret was unreasonable, but there is a reason for it lol. And that is - show drama and keeping you hooked. In so, so, so many movies and shows, they break up characters for no good reason just to keep the show interesting. And it's stupid. I hate it. It's unecessary and it's obviously not what would really happen. Mary Margaret could and perhaps should have been mad at David for lying to her and Katherine, and she's a little unsure if she wants to be with a liar. But then she should have just said, "I'm mad at you, and I need some time away from you for a while." Not something as out of the blue over-dramatic as "we're destructive and can't be together". That doesn't make sense. They obviously have an unexplainable attraction to each other that they'll never lose and there's no reason to seperate over something so small that doesn't have much to do with
their relationship having a particular problem.
But there is one thing, and that's that I finally realized why David couldn't leave Katherine for so long - because he didn't want to hurt her. I didn't think of that, lol. I guess it's because he didn't seem to give much of a sh*t about her, really. If they had shown that he had some more care for her, then that would've been a lot better.
SillySymphony wrote:The last episode is currently my least favorite. Are we supposed to care for Kathryn? Not sure if we're to like her, despise her or just feel indifferent. The writers were going for likeability (I assume) in this episode, but I didn't care. Her fairy tale counterpart's backstory/love interest was the least engaging of the series.
How about she's just a complex character and it's up to the viewer to decide how they feel about her?
I felt sympathetic toward her earlier when she was relieved about not having a baby because she could tell things weren't going well with David.