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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:16 pm 
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well i believe a statement made in America was that the show looked to plastic(according to Stage), which would probably be referring to the purple/pink glittery stuff, so I'm sure, looking to Stage's and Joop van den Ende's past shows they will alter the decors in a positively way.

I think so too, he's a real professional.


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I get why they use bright, colorful costumes, but there's a lot of pink and purple. They also use a lot of glitter. It's just my opinion ;)

But why are those things even seen as girly? Purple used to be a color for royalty and even a lot of football players used to use it. What is it about those colors and glitter that makes boys not like it? Boys like sparks and explosions and stars, which is just like sparkles...what it is it, what is it?

I'm a boy and my favorite colors are purple, pink, and aquamarine and I love glitter, that's why I love Disney dust so much and it's in my avatar!

I really wonder what happened to the proposed 2010 tour of this show, and I wish it had happened. Maybe it will happen later, but...

I don't know if any of you knew this, but Disney released the rights to The Little Mermaid exclusively to three theatres, and it seems to be because they want to "try it out" and make it good before they release the rights all over the place? Or maybe they aren't letting the rights go just yet, and are only letting the rights to theatres that they think would put on a good show, because they did past Disney shows well or something. I think it's to make The Little Mermaid show look good by word of mouth before they release the rights. It seems they picked towns far, far away from the really big, well-known, artsy and sophisticated cities so theatre big wigs wouldn't know about and possibly pounce on the show.

Anyway, the first theatre to put on the show with these rights was the Tuacahn Ampitheatre in Ivins, Utah. It opened June 2nd and is playing till October 21st. The girl who plays Ariel was an understudy for Ariel on Broadway! But when I first saw the costumes...well, see for yourself:
Ariel
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However, don't panic! There was this trailer for the show, which makes it look a little more promising, doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gl7T5TzcUU

And then, here are the images of the actual show:
Tuacahn Little Mermaid Gallery

So, I will say that I like quite a few things, and think some is actually, actually, a lot better than the Braodway production, aside from the horrible low quality of how everything was crafted because they don't have a Broadway budget! First is I like the level of realism and literalism used in this production, it looks better than the Broadway one in this aspect. The ship is absolutely spectacular and looks much better in three dimensional glory. As I had complained before, the ship, and a lot of pieces in the Broadway version, had looked way too flat, and needed more dimension. Scuttle, Sebastian, Flounder and Ursula finally look like the actual sea creatures they are supposed to be, with Ursula's colors finally being right as well as less gross. But Ursula needs to have a nautilus shell like in the movie, not a conch shell.

The best thing of all has to be that the mermaids finally look like they are actual mermaids, as in they just have tails, not tails and legs, thanks to their legs being all black. The effect is one I had thought of before, and I'm glad to see it actually works! It's just that the stage needs to be more black and the mermaids need to be choreographed to avoid being in front of anything not black at all costs. The simplest and best solution would be to make everything low on the floor black (or almost black, very dark), and anything at the level of their tail can be whatever color or brightness they want it to be. Why Flounder and some other sea creatures didn't have this same "black hiding their legs" effect, I will never know, but they should have.

I also love how Ursula becomes huge in the end by simply staying the actress' size but her body and tentacles growing beneath her and raising her upward. It's another thing I thought of before, and it looks better and more dramatic than what the Broadway production did. The only thing is we need to see what looks like actual huge tentacles coming from her, not just black fabric!

Apparently this version had a "water screen", which I'm still not sure what or how that is, that they projected undersea images onto...for part of the background? I dunno, just search for "tuacahn little mermaid" and key words like that, or visit the Facebook page, to find out more about the production. Remember, it's still playing till Oct 21st!

But wait, another production happened, too! The one at The Muny Theatre in St. Louis, Missouri. This one is over, it started July 6th and ended July 14th. This one had Ken Page, the original Old Deuteronomy in Broadway's Cats and the original Lion in Broadway's The Wiz, as King Triton, and, you'll never believe it, that heavy guy from MadTV, Paul Vogt, as Ursula! I wish I could find a video of his performance! But here's a gallery of the show and...oh boy...well, look for yourself:

Muny Little Mermaid Gallery

So, I think that while the Tuacahn production took a lot forward for the show, this Muny production took a big step backward. The more literalness is nice, but the mermaids are just wearing plain dresses that kinda sorta are cut to look like tails, with their feet able to be seen sticking out sometimes, and they are clearly walking everywhere, when the star of the show's desire is to have feet and walk!

And generally the production just looks atrocious, with the only thing I like being Prince Eric's wedding costume and Triton's throne room and costume are kinda neat. Emphasis on kinda. But Triton doesn't even look like he has any attempt at a tail, ugh! Ursula's lair has kind of a cool, venemous, dark scariness to it...but it's horribly done and what's with the octopus being all still and painted in there?!

For more info on...sigh...this production, you can search for "muny little mermaid" and things like that or visit the Facebook page.

The last of these productions is the one at the Music Theatre of Witchita in Witchita Kansas, and it's coming up soon, and that one better be better! It's August 5-7, and 10-14. For more information, search for it and here's the official web site. The video on the front page at least makes it look very promising!

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Purple is now used more with pink and blue, thus making it "girly"

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Well, the Tuacahn production looks awesome (though I think they could have had someone a little younger play Ariel, since the actress playing her looks kinda old, but that's just me.)

Why couldn't the Broadway version look anything like that?! :x


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Well, the Tuacahn production looks awesome (though I think they could have had someone a little younger play Ariel, since the actress playing her looks kinda old, but that's just me.)

Why couldn't the Broadway version look anything like that?! :x


Yeah, I agree with everything you said. Ariel looks too old and the theater looks incredible! The special effects (Ursula flying reminds me a lot of Defying Gravity) and the size (the Kiss the Girl set looks amazing) are awesome.

How did they get the rights anyway??? It's not out yet! But, they are making rights for elementary/middle schools, so....I wonder if they're using that?

I love the costumes BTW!

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the Tuacahn version looks nice and I hope that the Dutch/European version looks as good as that one and hopefulley even better!

However, you guys seem to forget that besides new costumes, the Dutch version will also have a rewritten script and will add two new songs. They want the show to appeal to an older audience.

So my guess is they wil make the new sets a little bit darker and less 'girly'.

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This is a great news to me. I saw the board way show and loved it ! I'm a big fan of TLM anyway, so anything is great to me.

For the new songs, I prefer it to be solo Ariel song. Part of your World was so great, the way they arrange it for Broad way, but I want more original song for her like "Home" to Belle.

I hope Sierra Borgess returns as Love never dies will close soon !


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^ Well, she's currently starring in the revival of Master Class on Broadway and she'll be playing the role of Christine in the 25th anniversary concert of The Phantom of the Opera.

Probably not much, but....


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Perhaps by the time The Little Mermaid is ready, then she can go back to being a mermaid !

Did you guys like the tail being stuck up like that ?


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Well since Sierra is American and the show will be here in the Netherlands, I'll doubt they will choose her (actually I'm sure they wont) :P. It will be translated to dutch. Maybe afterwards it will be transfered back to broadway, but it has already been there, so....

But there is no news here on TLM musical, only huge rumours, and since Van den Ende(producer) is doing Wicked here right now and producing some other shows, it could take a while before it reaches the stage...


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Toky wrote:
Well since Sierra is American and the show will be here in the Netherlands, I'll doubt they will choose her (actually I'm sure they wont) :P. It will be translated to dutch. Maybe afterwards it will be transfered back to broadway, but it has already been there, so....

But there is no news here on TLM musical, only huge rumours, and since Van den Ende(producer) is doing Wicked here right now and producing some other shows, it could take a while before it reaches the stage...


They're probably developing it while Wicked runs, so they have a hot new ticket to replace Wicked with when that ends in about 3 years.

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Sotiris reminded me, that the final non-Broadway US version of the show happened long ago back in August, by the Music Theatre of Witchita. It looked...sucky, but hey, at least the mermaid costumes were in a way better than the original Broadway ones. No legged beings in skirts with tails sticking out the back.

There is this one picture that looks rather cool as it seems the had a projection of Eric falling in the water, caused by Ursula. But for a higher quality show would be better if they could just make it looked like the real actor was drowning...

Have a look:

Music Theatre of Wichita's The Little Mermaid

But the winner of worst costumes goes to the new version of this show that opened in Manila. They said they wanted to give the costumes an "Asian twist" but I didn't know that meant disgustingly grotesque garishness.

Have a look:
The Little Mermaid in Manila

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But those versions supposedly just changed the costumes and decor. This new European version will have a new script, and also two new songs written by Alan Menken and Glenn Slater.

Really excited! :D

Also, I think Tommie Christiaan is really cute. :P I think he'll do a good job. He's better than Jim Bakkum, who seems to be getting all the good male parts, like Fiyero..

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But those versions supposedly just changed the costumes and decor. This new European version will have a new script, and also two new songs written by Alan Menken and Glenn Slater.

I know, I was just bringing those up because they are related. It's all part of Disney changing the show...

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Commenting on some thoughts in the other thread: I don't think Tommie Christiaan or Jon Hamm is hot enough to be Eric.

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Very excited to hear more about this production. The B'way musical's failure has always been very disappointing to me, so I hope this new version will rectify the other one's problems.

Love the poster, by the way.

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So when will the new production start ?


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Found the link in other thread. Would love to see the show. Will they be singing in Dutch ? Anyone has new songs to share ?


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yes they will sing in dutch :) It's a dutch production, but there is no news yet, other then it is being produced and who will play Prince Eric...hopefully more news will soon follow :)


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Was Mermaid really the out and out failure that you guys say it was ? It always gets bashed horribly on here, but I have never known actual facts of if it was an actual commercial failure ...

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