Weird aspects of Disney: Are the Mice in Cinderella Racist?
Weird aspects of Disney: Are the Mice in Cinderella Racist?
* I can never seem to watch "Cinderella" without thinking that the female mice remind me of Hispanic maids; I even knew a Spanish teacher's assistant who once reminded me of them. Go ahead and kill me, and I'm not saying that the statement that I'm making is NOT racist, but I can't ever watch that movie without half expecting one of the female mice to start singing "I Feel Pretty", or something, because they ALL just have to be brown, wear hankerchief-type hats, etc. Was Walt actually being racist, or was he being unintentionally racist? Did he just not really think about what he was doing? Why are ALL of the mice brown, and why do they all seem so stereotypical?
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Re: Weird aspects of The Disney Company!
Erm, the mice are wearing traditional European folk clothes, and the female mice are wearing Dutch caps. Not really much Hispanic about that! And a lot of mice happen to be brown. Nobody was racist, nor were they intending to be!Jackoleen wrote:* I can never seem to watch "Cinderella" without thinking that the female mice remind me of Hispanic maids; I even knew a Spanish teacher's assistant who once reminded me of them. Go ahead and kill me, and I'm not saying that the statement that I'm making is NOT racist, but I can't ever watch that movie without half expecting one of the female mice to start singing "I Feel Pretty", or something, because they ALL just have to be brown, wear hankerchief-type hats, etc. Was Walt actually being racist, or was he being unintentionally racist? Did he just not really think about what he was doing? Why are ALL of the mice brown, and why do they all seem so stereotypical?
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Except now I won't be able to help but think of this every time I watch the movie.Wonderlicious wrote:Erm, the mice are wearing traditional European folk clothes, and the female mice are wearing Dutch caps. Not really much Hispanic about that! And a lot of mice happen to be brown. Nobody was racist, nor were they intending to be!
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WTF?Jackoleen wrote:
* I can never seem to watch "Cinderella" without thinking that the female mice remind me of Hispanic maids; I even knew a Spanish teacher's assistant who once reminded me of them. Go ahead and kill me, and I'm not saying that the statement that I'm making is NOT racist, but I can't ever watch that movie without half expecting one of the female mice to start singing "I Feel Pretty", or something, because they ALL just have to be brown, wear hankerchief-type hats, etc. Was Walt actually being racist, or was he being unintentionally racist? Did he just not really think about what he was doing? Why are ALL of the mice brown, and why do they all seem so stereotypical?
Are the mice jumping borders?
Are the mice immigrants?
Are mice having a drug war?
Are the mice wearing sombreros?
Do the mice eat tacos?
Do the mice have tons of children?
If none of these fit in with the Cinderella mice, then they are not Hispanic.
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<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Kmv3WlKa6U8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Jackoleen wrote:Dear Disney Enthusiasts,
I can't ever watch that movie without half expecting one of the female mice to start singing "I Feel Pretty",
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Flanger-Hanger wrote:Its fanbase.
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Smoking censorship. Most of the DACs have characters smoking and they're pushed onto the public. But it isn't right to make a DAC today with a villain smoking a cigar or a hero smoking a pipe. I wonder when we'll get a Smokefree Edition series for the small amount of DACs without smoking characters.
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Super Aurora wrote:WTF?Jackoleen wrote:
* I can never seem to watch "Cinderella" without thinking that the female mice remind me of Hispanic maids; I even knew a Spanish teacher's assistant who once reminded me of them. Go ahead and kill me, and I'm not saying that the statement that I'm making is NOT racist, but I can't ever watch that movie without half expecting one of the female mice to start singing "I Feel Pretty", or something, because they ALL just have to be brown, wear hankerchief-type hats, etc. Was Walt actually being racist, or was he being unintentionally racist? Did he just not really think about what he was doing? Why are ALL of the mice brown, and why do they all seem so stereotypical?
Are the mice jumping borders?
Are the mice immigrants?
Are mice having a drug war?
Are the mice wearing sombreros?
Do the mice eat tacos?
Do the mice have tons of children?
If none of these fit in with the Cinderella mice, then they are not Hispanic.
No not with Cinderella, but on an Animated Titanic yes
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But people smoke. That's just a fact, and children will be exposed to that anyways. They're going to know about it even if the characters don't smoke. Hell, their parents might smoke. Having a character in a movie (especially a villain) is not going to influence their decision to smoke. Small children watching the films usually associate villains with 'evil' and 'badness'. They're not going to model themselves after someone they hated.Sky Syndrome wrote:Smoking censorship. Most of the DACs have characters smoking and they're pushed onto the public. But it isn't right to make a DAC today with a villain smoking a cigar or a hero smoking a pipe.
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Mice do have lots of kids, and they fight over cheese.Super Aurora wrote:WTF?Jackoleen wrote:
* I can never seem to watch "Cinderella" without thinking that the female mice remind me of Hispanic maids; I even knew a Spanish teacher's assistant who once reminded me of them. Go ahead and kill me, and I'm not saying that the statement that I'm making is NOT racist, but I can't ever watch that movie without half expecting one of the female mice to start singing "I Feel Pretty", or something, because they ALL just have to be brown, wear hankerchief-type hats, etc. Was Walt actually being racist, or was he being unintentionally racist? Did he just not really think about what he was doing? Why are ALL of the mice brown, and why do they all seem so stereotypical?
Are the mice jumping borders?
Are the mice immigrants?
Are mice having a drug war?
Are the mice wearing sombreros?
Do the mice eat tacos?
Do the mice have tons of children?
If none of these fit in with the Cinderella mice, then they are not Hispanic.
I disagree with the idea of dreams coming true being unrealistic. I think dreaming and working hard is good.
agreed. big daddy in PATF would have looked more authentic with a pipe.Scarred4life wrote:But people smoke. That's just a fact, and children will be exposed to that anyways. They're going to know about it even if the characters don't smoke. Hell, their parents might smoke. Having a character in a movie (especially a villain) is not going to influence their decision to smoke. Small children watching the films usually associate villains with 'evil' and 'badness'. They're not going to model themselves after someone they hated.
i remember as a kid we had "spaceman" lollies, which were white sticks with a red tip. they were like candy cigarettes.
i, and all my friends, adored them and i would walk around pretending to inhale, lol. im now 26 and spaceman lollies were banned for many years. they recently came back without the red tips. those lollies only served to enchance my imaginary play.
the constant lectures from my parents were enough to curb any possible desires. ive never smoked a cigarette or taken any drug in my life and barely drink, though ive dated people who did all of them.
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I think what has been should stay (but am ok with the PA's before the film talking about how bad smoking is), but as for new characters smoking, I say only if they are the villain. Smoking is evil, so it's only natural that a villain would smoke.Scarred4life wrote:But people smoke. That's just a fact, and children will be exposed to that anyways. They're going to know about it even if the characters don't smoke. Hell, their parents might smoke. Having a character in a movie (especially a villain) is not going to influence their decision to smoke. Small children watching the films usually associate villains with 'evil' and 'badness'. They're not going to model themselves after someone they hated.Sky Syndrome wrote:Smoking censorship. Most of the DACs have characters smoking and they're pushed onto the public. But it isn't right to make a DAC today with a villain smoking a cigar or a hero smoking a pipe.
Agreed. Isn't that the message "Princess and the Frog" was trying to deliver?ajmrowland wrote:
I disagree with the idea of dreams coming true being unrealistic. I think dreaming and working hard is good.
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Interestingly, I was going to post that. From the Nostalgia Critic review, it does look like an odd mix of Titanic and Cinderella (the heroine and her mean stepfamily exactly resemble Cinderella and her mean stepfamily).disneyboy20022 wrote:No not with Cinderella, but on an Animated Titanic yes
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