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The Tinker Bell movies are better than the critically-thinking Disney fan who posts here has reason to suspect. They're not great, but they're several steps above the cheapquel blitz and I would guess comparable things like those lucrative Barbie movies.
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Well, yes, she is a little different. But everyone was different when they were infants.

The Tink in "Tinker Bell" is new in the world. She is innocent, not suspicious, "unspoiled." It is why she is so surprised that Vidia is not kind to her, and why she does not understand her position in life.
As you can see with "Lost Treasure," over the six months between the films, she has become more herself. She is quick to anger and impatient, she is impulsive, she gets into trouble... Our innocent baby has become a mischevious child with the makings of a real bitch.

Now jump maybe 10 years later to "Peter Pan." That is important to remember: the fact that there is a decade or so between the Tinker Bell and Peter Pan films. And sometime during that transition, she left Pixie Hollow for some reason. We don't yet know what happened when she met Peter, but with some luck, we will learn, and maybe it will help to explain. Life experiences can take a toll on the personality, and she already had some bitchy traits.
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Luke wrote:The Tinker Bell movies are better than the critically-thinking Disney fan who posts here has reason to suspect. They're not great, but they're several steps above the cheapquel blitz and I would guess comparable things like those lucrative Barbie movies.
Thank you Luke, Neal and Margos. I would like to hope that Planes! would arise to the same level at least as the Disney Fairies line, and promise not to comment on it until I've seen the movie in it's entirety...

At least I know my husband and I aren't the only ones "dumbed down" to be entertained at the level of a four-year-old. :wink:
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As much as I think Cars was mediocre, I will at least give Planes a chance not just say "Cars wasn't my favorite, so I refuse to see Planes."
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http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2010/ ... nline.html
...the DisneyToon spinoff "Planes," which is the first of several straight-to-DVD animated features exploring a world occupied by mechanical beings...
Uhhh...what?!
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I'm guessing it means that they won't just attach faces to airplanes and cars. They might attach them to boats, too. I think Disney sees a lot of money coming in for this, which makes sense, as children love vehicles with faces on them. Just look at how successful Thomas the Tank Engine is. Which begs the question whether they will also make Trains, without getting sued by the Thomas rights-holders.
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I don't even like Cars but hopefully this doesn't diminish the world created in the film.
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Is it only me that got a little sad that even DisneyToon Studios has gone all Pixar for their upcoming projects? It's like WDAS and its legacy is dying inside the company little by little...

Here's all the info we have on Planes so far.
Steve Hulett wrote:I was able to get a look at some of the visual development for the next group of Toon Disney features (waay different than Tinkerbell) and my first reaction was: "That's going to make the Mouse a lot of money!" Because it is a real commercial property.
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... ience.html
Steve Hulett wrote:There's also a new c.g.i series of features at Diz Toons -- apart from the Tinkerbells -- in early development. Stories being scripted, characters being developed. (New characters, but cousins of other creations in the Disney empire).
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... isney.html
Steve Hulett wrote:The project is being boarded, visualized, etc. at Disney Toons in Glendale. The people working on it, like it.
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... isney.html
Steve Hulett wrote:Disney Toons does whole series of features. So it's not like they have one Planes or one Tinkerbell.
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... rking.html
Honor Hunter wrote:Next year sees the sequel film, "Cars 2" as well as the DisneyToon spinoff "Planes," which is the first of several straight-to-DVD animated features exploring a world occupied by mechanical beings.
Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2010/08/bu ... nline.html
Steve Hulett wrote:The fourth Tinkerbell video feature is well into boarding, and the first feature of the new series is getting put up on story-reels, with a screening for John Lasseter sooner rather than later. (I'm hearing October).
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... ounds.html
Honor Hunter wrote:The "Planes" films are being done with the blessing of Pixar and the supervision of Lasseter. They take place in a world with the Cars world, if you remember there are other vehicles in the film. This is their story. A story for boys (Think of this as the boys version of Tinker Bell). And if it's successful (most likely) then get ready for Ships, Trains and other characters in this world.
Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2010/10/mo ... mater.html
Honor Hunter wrote:I've heard a lot of people venting about this series and many have felt as this as something along the lines of a desecration of the Lamp's label. But this series is something that has been in the planning for a couple years. As the Tink series was in full production, the powers that be realized that they had to address a couple of things. First, the focus on characters and issues that play primarily to girls/women. Second, the missed opportunity to maximize boys obsession with the "Cars" franchise. This gave John and the crew over at the Toon Studios the opportunity to work more in the world of Cars and focus on that male demographic.

Unlike the Disney Fairies, this is a series that has had Lasseter's blessing from the get go. Tink was a series that he was given with the expectation of delivering, which he has in spades. This series, which storyboard artists will begin working on a second draft of the film in November after John's note are analyzed, will have even more focus than Fairies. The film is currently set for a late 2011/early 2012 release if everything continues running smoothly. Should this film be successful, the crew has plans to work on many of the other humanized vehicles of this world: Trains, Boats, ect. He's done a great job of turning the DVD series into a credible and profitable franchise, now he's got the opportunity to focus on expanding and growing the offerings of this division.

The "Planes" characters are new and will be in the world of Cars or one like it. The Cars characters are not a part of it. This isn't a sequel that someone else is doing. And Lasseter is handling the film. No one else will be doing it. The original guy that made Cars 1 & 2 will be doing it so I don't think you'll have to worry about the content not being up to Pixar's standards.
Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2010/10/be ... iries.html
Honor Hunter wrote:It seems that Disney is trying to animate every mechanical vehicle than has been conceived. Can "Trains" really be that far behind? Scratch that. Forget you ever heard me say that. Hmmm.
Source: http://www.blueskydisney.com/2011/02/bu ... lanes.html
Steve Hulett wrote:And though the news has been out and about on the internets for a while now, and though I've been looking at artwork for the movie for at least a year, the Mouse has finally announced this. The designs for the new picture are beguiling. This item from Disney Toons will end up making a lot of money, both in merchandise and DVD sales.
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... tions.html
Steve Hulett wrote:Most of the story work on the first Planes feature is done, and another installment will soon be launched into development.
Source: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... udios.html
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blackcauldron85 wrote:http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2010/ ... nline.html
...the DisneyToon spinoff "Planes," which is the first of several straight-to-DVD animated features exploring a world occupied by mechanical beings...
Uhhh...what?!

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I think that youtube video is exactly how I feel about this and possibly more to come
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sotiris2006 wrote:Is it only me that got a little sad that even DisneyToon Studios has gone all Pixar for their upcoming projects? It's like WDAS and its legacy is dying inside the company little by little...
The 2nd sentence is something that I've definitely thought of...hence any "conspiracy theory" mentions that I've made. But that's an interesting point about DisneyToon...I mean, we don't know what they have in mind post-Tinker Bell besides Planes.
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http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/ ... ounds.html
the first feature of the new series is getting put up on story-reels, with a screening for John Lasseter sooner rather than later. (I'm hearing October.)
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Um, I know Pixar has been perfect so far, but I really worry that that may end this decade. They suddenly got sequel happy and now this?! I trust Pixar, but right now it's turning into an uneasy trust. DTV films have never been THAT good. A few have been ok, fun to watch, but never "Beauty and the Beat," "Lion King," Toy Story," or "Up" good.

I worry.
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milojthatch wrote:Um, I know Pixar has been perfect so far, but I really worry that that may end this decade. They suddenly got sequel happy and now this?! I trust Pixar, but right now it's turning into an uneasy trust. DTV films have never been THAT good. A few have been ok, fun to watch, but never "Beauty and the Beat," "Lion King," Toy Story," or "Up" good.

I worry.
Cars wasn't as good as any of those films either. Maybe they feel more comfortable making a DTV line with that idea than any other.

For a while we've been talking about the possibility of a conspiracy theory against WDAS.... what if it's the opposite! (this is me just rambling, but something i've thought about.)

I mean, it seems that Pixar is starting to travel a path that was already tread by WDAS and has lead to failure.

all in all, isn't WDAS the only studio working on original and new ideas compared to Dreamworks and Pixar?
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singerguy04 wrote:
milojthatch wrote:Um, I know Pixar has been perfect so far, but I really worry that that may end this decade. They suddenly got sequel happy and now this?! I trust Pixar, but right now it's turning into an uneasy trust. DTV films have never been THAT good. A few have been ok, fun to watch, but never "Beauty and the Beat," "Lion King," Toy Story," or "Up" good.

I worry.
Cars wasn't as good as any of those films either. Maybe they feel more comfortable making a DTV line with that idea than any other.

For a while we've been talking about the possibility of a conspiracy theory against WDAS.... what if it's the opposite! (this is me just rambling, but something i've thought about.)

I mean, it seems that Pixar is starting to travel a path that was already tread by WDAS and has lead to failure.

all in all, isn't WDAS the only studio working on original and new ideas compared to Dreamworks and Pixar?
Ok, so I guess I did use the cream of the cream of the crop as my example. Let me try again. I have yet to see any DTV films as good as "Great Mouse Detective," "Cars," "Fox and the Hound," "A Bug's Life," or "Dumbo." Better? :P

Anyway, what a frightening reality, Disney is actually working on more original ideas right now then Pixar? Maybe Lassiter is not watching Pixar as closely anymore in favor of the Mouse House? Maybe Pixar has pride issues and wants to show that they can do what others have failed to do with too many sequels and DTV films? When your 11 for 11, it could be easy to get a big head? I'd love nothing more then for them to kill at this and be amazing. It's just, I don't have much faith in the format they want to use.
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http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2010/ ... iries.html
...But this series is something that has been in the planning for a couple years...Unlike the Disney Fairies, this is a series that has had Lasseter's blessing from the get go. Tink was a series that he was given with the expectation of delivering, which he has in spades. This series, which storyboard artists will begin working on a second draft of the film in November after John's note are analyzed, will have even more focus than Fairies. The film is currently set for a late 2011/early 2012 release if everything continues running smoothly. Should this film be successful, the crew has plans to work on many of the other humanized vehicles of this world: Trains, Boats, ect. He's done a great job of turning the DVD series into a credible and profitable franchise, now he's got the opportunity to focus on expanding and growing the offerings of this division.
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o.m.g.

Trains... Boats... Bikes... Tractors... Printing Presses... Mailboxes... Computers... Appliances... Guitars... Office Supplies... Hair Dryers... Plungers... Wheelchairs... Mechanical Pencils... Vibrators... IPods... Toys (oh wait...)... IT NEVER ENDS!!!!!!
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Animating the inanimate is what Pixar has been doing from the start. all the way back to Luxo Jr and various commercials. All that matters is the execution. That being said I think this sort of thing mainly only works in short form, not in full length movies or tv series. the longer their on screen the harder it is to justify the logic of the world their living in.
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I wonder how they will make Trains, without inviting comparisons to Thomas the Tank Engine? Needless to say, it will be very difficult.
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at this rate they might as well merge the 3 ideas and call it Pixar's Planes, Trains and Automobiles :P

Though that title has been used in a comedy already in a movie totatlly unrelated to Disney :lol:
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