Tangled (aka Rapunzel) Discussion - Part III
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Ugh at me editing my earlier post and then someone posts under me in the meantime, so to make sure everyone sees the new update if it's worthwhile, I need to repost it...
I don't think that this was posted yet...?
SDCC 2010: Disney Animators Panel on TANGLED
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Well, TP&tF definitely had some girlier merchandise (sparkle kissy frogs, anyone? http://i.pgcdn.com/pi/75/85/18/758518892_260.jpg ), but pink wasn't really a color of the film, besides for Charlotte. We know that purple is a color of Tangled, and maybe pink...? But of course they're going to make girly toys, because, really, what DAC with a prominent female doesn't get some girly toys (except for Eilonwy and Kida, I guess).
Some examples of girly merchndise from other not-as-girly films:
The Hunchback of Notre Dame:
http://cdn3.ioffer.com/img2/item/134/052/745/h67L.jpg
http://image24.webshots.com/24/9/38/32/ ... pZs_ph.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ej-1JlmXW4k/SzyXC ... rDolls.jpg
Hercules:
http://www.donettas.com/magicwingspegasus17254.JPG
And sometimes when they try to be all masculine, they get this:
http://www.donettas.com/powerflexhercules16886.JPG
This is taking too long, haha, but you get the point.
I don't think that this was posted yet...?
SDCC 2010: Disney Animators Panel on TANGLED
http://www.collider.com/2010/07/23/comi ... len-keane/
(via laughingplace.com)
Well, TP&tF definitely had some girlier merchandise (sparkle kissy frogs, anyone? http://i.pgcdn.com/pi/75/85/18/758518892_260.jpg ), but pink wasn't really a color of the film, besides for Charlotte. We know that purple is a color of Tangled, and maybe pink...? But of course they're going to make girly toys, because, really, what DAC with a prominent female doesn't get some girly toys (except for Eilonwy and Kida, I guess).
Some examples of girly merchndise from other not-as-girly films:
The Hunchback of Notre Dame:
http://cdn3.ioffer.com/img2/item/134/052/745/h67L.jpg
http://image24.webshots.com/24/9/38/32/ ... pZs_ph.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ej-1JlmXW4k/SzyXC ... rDolls.jpg
Hercules:
http://www.donettas.com/magicwingspegasus17254.JPG
And sometimes when they try to be all masculine, they get this:
http://www.donettas.com/powerflexhercules16886.JPG
This is taking too long, haha, but you get the point.
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Ew, that just looks creepy. What child would want to play with that? And which person even designed that thing?blackcauldron85 wrote:And sometimes when they try to be all masculine, they get this:
http://www.donettas.com/powerflexhercules16886.JPG
Anyway, enough with odd toys, and back to Tangled. I've become less perturbed about the name change, but all the girly merchandise that's surfacing has got me annoyed, not because of the items themselves, but because it seems paradoxical. It seems a bit hypocritical for Disney to go and change a film's title and its marketing relatively late in production to make it seem more like a boy's movie, yet still pour out millions into Rapunzel dolls, thereby implying that Tangled is still a chick flick. But anyway, the buzz about the movie seems positive, probably more so than The Princess and the Frog, so hopefully this release will prove that a Disney animation that isn't from Pixar can still do well. Or is that only a fairy tale?
And for good measure, here's Jim Hill with an article on Tangled:
"Tangled" mixes modern movie storytelling with old-school Disney drawing style
http://jimhillmedia.com/Editor_In_Chief ... style.aspx
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I still think Princess and the Frog put Disney back on the right track. Even if it didn't make a boatload of money, it still did earn back most of its cost. Not to mention people love it for its quality, which is what the people want, next to hand-drawn animated musicals. Don't get me wrong; I love Pixar's movies, along with Bolt. But I really loved The Princess and the Frog a little more for nostalgic values. Yes, I grew up on hand-drawn movies and love those still to this day (even the "crappier" ones like Tom & Jerry and Quest For Camelot). Big whoop. Want to fight about it?Wonderlicious wrote:But anyway, the buzz about the movie seems positive, probably more so than The Princess and the Frog, so hopefully this release will prove that a Disney animation that isn't from Pixar can still do well. Or is that only a fairy tale?
Wonderlicious wrote:And for good measure, here's Jim Hill with an article on Tangled:
"Tangled" mixes modern movie storytelling with old-school Disney drawing style
http://jimhillmedia.com/Editor_In_Chief ... style.aspx
Old school Disney drawing style? I'm not quite grasping that part since the movie's gonna be CGI and they passed up on the painterly look.
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My whole point with posting the pictures of toys was that just because they're releasing girly toys doesn't mean that the film is a chick flick...they're not going to neglect little girls who want dolls.Wonderlicious wrote:Anyway, enough with odd toys, and back to Tangled. I've become less perturbed about the name change, but all the girly merchandise that's surfacing has got me annoyed, not because of the items themselves, but because it seems paradoxical. It seems a bit hypocritical for Disney to go and change a film's title and its marketing relatively late in production to make it seem more like a boy's movie, yet still pour out millions into Rapunzel dolls, thereby implying that Tangled is still a chick flick.
And thanks for posting the JHM article- it wasn't there this morning when I was on the site. *sigh* It sounds like it'll be a great movie- everything I've read so far as pointed to that. I would be more excited if it were hand-drawn, but I'm still excited nonetheless.
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And those designs can be realized in traditional animation or CGI.
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Look there at the second link "AN ARTIST FRIENDLY HAIR SHADING SYSTEM"
I cannot see it yet, but I think there will be some new images =)
Look there at the second link "AN ARTIST FRIENDLY HAIR SHADING SYSTEM"
I cannot see it yet, but I think there will be some new images =)
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Yeah, I remember a shot of that in storyboard form of Rapunzel standing on a table with her mouth open (like singing) surrounded by Viking-looking guys.mawnck wrote:Through the first rough draft of the trailer?It has been confirmed through the first rough draft of the trailer that Rapunzel sings a song in a tavern with vikings.
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Oh ... you mean the first draft of the OLD trailer. I thought you were speaking of the upcoming one. Since Rapunzel singing with ruffians in a tavern has been confirmed numerous places. Neeeeeeeever mind.Margos wrote:Yeah, I remember a shot of that in storyboard form of Rapunzel standing on a table with her mouth open (like singing) surrounded by Viking-looking guys.mawnck wrote: Through the first rough draft of the trailer?
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some new images from the Disney publications page, all coming out because of the Siggraph lectures going on there http://www.disneyanimation.com/library/list.html
this is an animation test, you can see these in the pdf that comes with the article, with a lot of explanations on how they worked on improving CGI hair.
There's also a video of Siggraph which shows some footage of the Geek Bar sponsored by Disney animation and all themed around Tangled, where you can see the official sign of the "Snuggly Duckling"
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this is an animation test, you can see these in the pdf that comes with the article, with a lot of explanations on how they worked on improving CGI hair.
There's also a video of Siggraph which shows some footage of the Geek Bar sponsored by Disney animation and all themed around Tangled, where you can see the official sign of the "Snuggly Duckling"
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^^^^ Robster you beat me to it !
Has anyone else noticed that the clothes Rapunzel is wearing are slightly different to the clothes featured in the trailer?
The smaller image i would imagine is from the movie but what i can't understand is whyy they would change her clothes if she is already beautifully animated?
Someone help me
Has anyone else noticed that the clothes Rapunzel is wearing are slightly different to the clothes featured in the trailer?
The smaller image i would imagine is from the movie but what i can't understand is whyy they would change her clothes if she is already beautifully animated?
Someone help me
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Her dress and corset were just refined in design through the production which I remind people is very short due to this kind of movie.
They had patterns on her dress and changed a bit the purple range of her dress and corset.
The small new image does shows her actual clothes as in the trailer, except the shot where you see her foot coming into the light in the tower as the patterns used are older ones.
The dress and corset on the animation test where she is slidding on her stairs are very old and totally off-model.
They had patterns on her dress and changed a bit the purple range of her dress and corset.
The small new image does shows her actual clothes as in the trailer, except the shot where you see her foot coming into the light in the tower as the patterns used are older ones.
The dress and corset on the animation test where she is slidding on her stairs are very old and totally off-model.
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I guess this is a little weird, since Maximus is a male...but little girls love to brush and style hair. I guess the long-haired Maximus will sell better than one with a regular-size mane. Although she's a female, Disney did the same thing with this Snow White doll:Sky Syndrome wrote:If I got that toy, I'd leave off the bridle and saddle and trim down that mane. He looks as though he munched on some of Runzie's hair and the magic in it went straight to his hair and lengthened it.DisneyDude2010 wrote:Searching Amazon.com and Found Rapunzel and MAXIMUS Doll Set
http://www.disneystore.com/girls-disney ... 40/307203/
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Is it me or it's just that the animation looks more stop-motion-doll animation and oil painting-esque rather than "plain" cgi everyone is complaining about.(I'm not saying that you guys are complaining.It's the other so called "fans" of WDAS.)robster16 wrote:some new images from the Disney publications page, all coming out because of the Siggraph lectures going on there http://www.disneyanimation.com/library/list.html
this is an animation test, you can see these in the pdf that comes with the article, with a lot of explanations on how they worked on improving CGI hair.
There's also a video of Siggraph which shows some footage of the Geek Bar sponsored by Disney animation and all themed around Tangled, where you can see the official sign of the "Snuggly Duckling"
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YIfZaE_Lp_Y&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/YIfZaE_Lp_Y&hl=nl_NL&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
In certain lighting and angles,it looks like an oil painting.for example, the screen shot of the tower that we've been seeing lately.
But in the screen shots above,it looks like doll animtaion because of the life-like texture and natural lighting.
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Ok.So it's test footage.it's still an example of the animation.mawnck wrote:Test footage. Test footage. test footage.Candy-Bonita95 wrote:But in the screen shots above,it looks like doll animtaion because of the life-like texture and natural lighting.
And it isn't just the outfit that's off model. She looks a little like Tilda Swinton.
But does anyone think it's a little like doll animation,or is it just me?
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it's just you.Candy-Bonita95 wrote:Ok.So it's test footage.it's still an example of the animation.mawnck wrote: Test footage. Test footage. test footage.
And it isn't just the outfit that's off model. She looks a little like Tilda Swinton.
But does anyone think it's a little like doll animation,or is it just me?