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VERY interesting! I really like that story and what you can do with it visually. It breathes a sense of magic and fairytale without getting mushy or girly.
for people not familiar with the story:
In the Jacobson version of the story Jack is a young lad living with his widowed mother and struggling in hard times. In desperation for money Jack is sent by his mother to sell their only cow at the market, but along the way he is apparently swindled by a man who offers him supposedly "magic" beans in exchange for the cow.
Jack took the beans but when he arrived home with no money, only a hand full of beans, his angry mother threw the worthless beans out the window and sent Jack to bed without supper for his foolishness.
As Jack slept, the beans germinated in the soil, and by morning a gigantic beanstalk grew in their place. When Jack saw the huge beanstalk, he immediately decided to climb it. He arrived in a land high up in the clouds that happened to be the home of a giant. When he broke into the giant's castle, the giant quickly sensed a human was near:
Fee-fi-fo-fum!
I smell the blood of an Englishman?
Be he 'live, or be he dead,
I'll grind his bones to make my bread.
However, Jack was saved by the giant's wife and as he escaped from the castle, he took a bag of gold coins with him. However this would not suffice to please the all powerful count. Jack desired to seek out more treasures from the castle, to gain standing among his fiancees family. He climbed once more up the beanstalk. This time he stole a hen which laid golden eggs. This would be sure to please the all powerful count.
Jack being nearly caught by the giant twice decided that none must know of where he found this magical item, and the gold coins so he decided to go up the beanstalk. This time, a magical harp that played by itself, caught his eye. He stole it and then proceeded to kill the giant in a murderous rage, for the all powerful count must never know of his misdeeds. With the blood on his hands he quickly climbed down the beanstalk and cut it. However this was giant's blood and could not be washed off of his hands. The all powerful count was most pleased with these gifts, and so he disregarded Jacks blood-stained hands. Jack married his beloved, and knew riches for the rest of his days.
for people not familiar with the story:
In the Jacobson version of the story Jack is a young lad living with his widowed mother and struggling in hard times. In desperation for money Jack is sent by his mother to sell their only cow at the market, but along the way he is apparently swindled by a man who offers him supposedly "magic" beans in exchange for the cow.
Jack took the beans but when he arrived home with no money, only a hand full of beans, his angry mother threw the worthless beans out the window and sent Jack to bed without supper for his foolishness.
As Jack slept, the beans germinated in the soil, and by morning a gigantic beanstalk grew in their place. When Jack saw the huge beanstalk, he immediately decided to climb it. He arrived in a land high up in the clouds that happened to be the home of a giant. When he broke into the giant's castle, the giant quickly sensed a human was near:
Fee-fi-fo-fum!
I smell the blood of an Englishman?
Be he 'live, or be he dead,
I'll grind his bones to make my bread.
However, Jack was saved by the giant's wife and as he escaped from the castle, he took a bag of gold coins with him. However this would not suffice to please the all powerful count. Jack desired to seek out more treasures from the castle, to gain standing among his fiancees family. He climbed once more up the beanstalk. This time he stole a hen which laid golden eggs. This would be sure to please the all powerful count.
Jack being nearly caught by the giant twice decided that none must know of where he found this magical item, and the gold coins so he decided to go up the beanstalk. This time, a magical harp that played by itself, caught his eye. He stole it and then proceeded to kill the giant in a murderous rage, for the all powerful count must never know of his misdeeds. With the blood on his hands he quickly climbed down the beanstalk and cut it. However this was giant's blood and could not be washed off of his hands. The all powerful count was most pleased with these gifts, and so he disregarded Jacks blood-stained hands. Jack married his beloved, and knew riches for the rest of his days.
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Interesting...I have no doubt that when this comes out on DVD/blu ray, they will put Mickey and the beanstalk in there.sotiris2006 wrote:According to Progress City USA, the new project is "Jack and the Beanstalk".
http://progresscityusa.com/2010/07/20/s ... formation/
Wasn't there once a project at WDAS called "You Don't Know Jack about the Beanstalk" that gave a 'modern' twist to the tale?
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Interesting. It would be the first time a story has been told twice in the Disney canon (following Mickey's segment in Fun and Fancy Free), but Jack and the Beanstalk is a very good story.sotiris2006 wrote:According to Progress City USA, the new project is "Jack and the Beanstalk".
http://progresscityusa.com/2010/07/20/s ... formation/
Also, nice to read in that same article that King of the Elves will be hand-drawn.
To refresh everyone's memory....
Character set-up
I hope they'll stay true to these...
I know it's being retooled and all but I don't see anything wrong with this.
I like the earthtones especially,maybe in time we'll even see a crossover with Tinkerbell
I've got a feeling that they want to compete with that other fantasy coming out, ''The Power of the Dark Crystal'' which will come out around the same time I guess? I know, I know..totally different approach but still
fantasy right?
(I believe that's still Brian Henson's Property right?)
As far as Jack and the beanstalk goes ...
well, let's just say I'm not in love with the overall story
It works well as a short for mickey, but a feature??
How can you fill 80+minutes with some boy who accidentally encounters a giant?
I'm not here to judge, I'm just wondering how Disney is going to approach this?
I do think it's sad that a project like the Snow Queen is still on ice
and that we won't see a Fraidy Cat anytime soon, or visit India for
either Emperor's Nightingale or Ramayana...
Why use a story like this that's already a great short, your thoughts?
Character set-up
I hope they'll stay true to these...
I know it's being retooled and all but I don't see anything wrong with this.
I like the earthtones especially,maybe in time we'll even see a crossover with Tinkerbell
I've got a feeling that they want to compete with that other fantasy coming out, ''The Power of the Dark Crystal'' which will come out around the same time I guess? I know, I know..totally different approach but still
fantasy right?
(I believe that's still Brian Henson's Property right?)
As far as Jack and the beanstalk goes ...
well, let's just say I'm not in love with the overall story
It works well as a short for mickey, but a feature??
How can you fill 80+minutes with some boy who accidentally encounters a giant?
I'm not here to judge, I'm just wondering how Disney is going to approach this?
I do think it's sad that a project like the Snow Queen is still on ice
and that we won't see a Fraidy Cat anytime soon, or visit India for
either Emperor's Nightingale or Ramayana...
Why use a story like this that's already a great short, your thoughts?
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I think it would be exiting to see a hand-drawn animated feature from Disney based on a fairytale/myth taking place in (ancient) India. Disney hasn't gone much into that territory yet. Of course there's Jungle Book but it hardly shows anything of Indian culture.
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Thanks for refreshing everyone's memory of King of the Elves and showing the concept art. That's a first time for me. But what is it going to be: CGI or hand-drawn?
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Thanks for refreshing everyone's memory of King of the Elves and showing the concept art. That's a first time for me. But what is it going to be: CGI or hand-drawn?
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I like the sound of them resurrecting Elves to give the hand drawn department something to do once Pooh wraps up. That indicates they wanna keep the hand drawn team working actively. Which is a good thing.
WDAS main problem is that this info is always leaking. As much as I'm guilty by wanting this info on them as well, they should remain shut tight. The past few months when development (and therefore morale) was low, the internet fans were freaking out 24/7 because we were always aware of what's going on inside the studio walls. The low morale outside the studio then comes back to the employed animators and story artists and I believe this only makes things worse.
I know there is a policy in place that if anyone leaks info they're fired, but it seems there continues to be a leak. The animation guild blog can get away with it because they're not employed by Disney, but they do add to all the drama, constantly pushing the dialogue of business and box office versus art. They're just adding more fuel to the fire by sharing all the behind the scenes drama.
WDAS main problem is that this info is always leaking. As much as I'm guilty by wanting this info on them as well, they should remain shut tight. The past few months when development (and therefore morale) was low, the internet fans were freaking out 24/7 because we were always aware of what's going on inside the studio walls. The low morale outside the studio then comes back to the employed animators and story artists and I believe this only makes things worse.
I know there is a policy in place that if anyone leaks info they're fired, but it seems there continues to be a leak. The animation guild blog can get away with it because they're not employed by Disney, but they do add to all the drama, constantly pushing the dialogue of business and box office versus art. They're just adding more fuel to the fire by sharing all the behind the scenes drama.
I think Steve was being sarcastic. He merely meant the film was hand-drawn. He was being tongue-in-cheek, that wasn't meant to actually give us any indication of the mystery project's genre.PatrickvD wrote:This makes sense. Wasn't the animation guild blog comparing this new project to Aladdin and Pinocchio? Sounds about right, huh?
and King of the Elves resurrected as a hand drawn film? inneresting...
First comment on the article at the site:
Now, who knows who the heck wrote that - but that seems pretty authoritative. Methinks the 10% accurate could be that King of the Elves has returned. I bet it will still be CGI, though.You have bad information. Just sayin. 10% of this is accurate
I doubt it's Jack and the Beanstalk - for some reason, that doesn't seem right to me.
I think it's more the usually negative comments that appears on the blog, rather than Hullett and Koch. They don't even announce upcoming projects until the studio themselves says it's being developed or another news source gives the leak (for example, he didn't mention Planes until last week, even though he knew about the projects for many months already).PatrickvD wrote:The animation guild blog can get away with it because they're not employed by Disney, but they do add to all the drama, constantly pushing the dialogue of business and box office versus art. They're just adding more fuel to the fire by sharing all the behind the scenes drama.
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I know it was tongue in cheek, but Jack and the Beanstalk (if true which is all rumor right now) sounds awfully close in style and tone to Pinocchio and Aladdin. He may have been joking and hinting at the same time here. Of course if Beanstalk is anywhere close to being in production.Neal wrote:I think Steve was being sarcastic. He merely meant the film was hand-drawn. He was being tongue-in-cheek, that wasn't meant to actually give us any indication of the mystery project's genre.
They often post stuff that adds fuel to the fire. The Box Office reports for example. And constantly emphasizing the difference in morale between Dreamworks and Disney. How DWA is a very successful and healthy animation studio. I know that this is what's going on, but they've turned the blog into a forum that gets nasty every now and then. They should not allow any type of comments to be made. That way, it'll just be their word. Which is more than enough.estefan wrote:I think it's more the usually negative comments that appears on the blog, rather than Hullett and Koch. They don't even announce upcoming projects until the studio themselves says it's being developed or another news source gives the leak (for example, he didn't mention Planes until last week, even though he knew about the projects for many months already).
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I think he meant in the DAC canon.Rudy Matt wrote:Interesting. It would be the first time a story has been told twice in the Disney canon.
Cinderella.
The Ugly Duckling.
Chicken Little.
and Mickey fought three giants already...Mickey and the Giant, The Brave Little Tailor, Mickey and the Beanstalk.
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I think Jack and the Beanstalk could work because It would be "gender friendly", could be an epic with a climatic fight scene, and a potential romance thrown in, maybe. hought, I think i would rather have disney work on The Snow Queen, The Emperors Nightingale, Ramanya, or Fraidy Cat, which sound more original and would provide more of a creative otlet. more of a creative outlet.
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If they did the harp like they did in F&FF, that could be rather interesting. Jack + Harp forever! Although they would have to give her a real name or something, since Harp sounds kind of odd. I like Lyra. You know, like Lyre? Yeah, that would be cool...schoollover wrote:..a potential romance thrown in, maybe.
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I like Mickey's Jack and the Beanstalk just fine. I don't really need to see another animated adaption of it, at least not before The Snow Queen. I'm just glad to hear there is another 2D project in the works. Though has it been confirmed it'll be a Musker and Clements project? Because I thought Treasure Planet and Princess and the Frog were both disappointing.
I loved the character design fro King of the Elves. So would be happy to see that in 2D.
I loved the character design fro King of the Elves. So would be happy to see that in 2D.