UncleEd wrote:I think there are plenty of rarities for a volume 2. You have the 60's and 70's left, the Small one, and the shorts from the 90's. Even the Fantasia 3 shorts could go here. Then put on the Jiminey Crickets and the educational shorts with characters and you'd have a fairly full set.
Considering that there are enough educational shorts to warrant their own set, a second rarities set could be as full as possible if they only include the best of those and drop the idea of a purely educational shorts set. Don't know if all of those are worth seeing, as many may be like the wartime training shorts and not really worth repeat viewings. Yes, I definitely feel they should include the Fantasia 3 shorts, Small One (original version), Scrooge McDuck and Money, the Jiminy Crickets, and all the other desirable ones we've been talking about. And, again, I'd still like an in sync version of "Runaway Brain."
UncleEd wrote: I only group Fluppy Dogs in the Disney Afternoon group because the same people and division made them. Weren't they on the Sunday Night Movie though instead of Walt Disney Presents? I know I recently read that Disneyland is considered dead after around 1983 or so. The movie of the week that replaced it is considered a different series. Fluppy Dogs is like an ET or Flight of the Navigator crowd kind of film. The same people who bought those would buy Fluppy Dogs. It's the same audience. Disney should market it to them. Even if they released it and put an ad on the Platinum DVDs I'm sure new Fluppy fans would emerge. It's a fun little film.
Never heard that Disneyland ended around 1983 and the Disney Sunday Movie was a different show. But, in essence it was the same thing, so why nit-pick. And I'm still not convinced that most of the Treasures audience isn't interested in the '80's stuff. I'm interested in it and in the earliest stuff as well. Anyway, nothing wrong with giving a little something to the younger audience too, which isn't really all that young anyway. Remember that us children of the '80's are in our 30's now, and many of us are collectors of the Treasures sets. I am part of the "Flight of the Navigator"/"E.T." generation, and I haven't missed a single Treasures set since the first wave (except Oswald, which I will get as soon as I have the spare cash again after Christmas). Furthermore, Treasures is the only DVD series I can say that about right now. However, I still don't buy that Fluppy Dogs will appeal to the entire "Flight of the Navigator" crowd. Remember that Fluppy Dogs wasn't a big screen release played over and over again on television even to this day (on Hallmark Channel and such). Fluppy Dogs came and went like a flash. It got replayed a bit on the Disney Channel, but for most folks I suspect it is still only a vague memory. I think it would have way more luck being sold as part of a package set like an '80's themed Treasures release.
UncleEd wrote: Sports Goofy was passed by for two reasons. It wouldn't fit on the Goofy set (that set was PACKED) and it was animated over seas.
Yes, I figured it wouldn't fit, but why was it passed on the sports themed single disc release yet included on the overseas release? The fact that it was animated overseas is not a reason to exclude a film that carried the Disney name, in my opinion.
UncleEd wrote: I don't see it as the time has passed forever to do these as stand alone releases though. That's where we differ. I just have a hard time seeing the Treasures crowd lapping these up.
I don't see it as "passed forever" either. What I see is that the best time for it would be now and even a few years ago, but Disney hasn't done anything with them yet. And I really think you're estimating the average age of the Disney Treasures buying crowd as older than it is. And while the bulk may be older than me, I'm sure there are many Treasures collectors who are my age as well. And, again, I'm from that Fluppy Dogs/Flight of the Navigator era. Just because we buy DVD releases of the '50's shows and the silent cartoons doesn't mean we saw them when they were new.
UncleEd wrote: The Love Bug has a fan base so I'd say the TV series would work as a season set.
Would love to see it as a season set, but I don't know if Disney respects the fan base enough to release it on its own. Releasing feature films is one thing, but they haven't even released the '90's TV movie sequel. Plus, the time to release all that stuff would have been when Herbie: Fully Loaded came out, yet they only chose to release the bigscreen films. It would just really surprise me to see the show get a solo release now. Plus, it wasn't that great of a show, hence the short run, which is why it would be served better to be sold with something else (like combining Swamp Fox with Baca, not that I approved of that).
UncleEd wrote: Swamp Fox runs 9 episodes so it wouldn't fit on a complete Treasure set when they choose to only give us 5 shows tops, 6 in that case since it was 3 and 3.
I'm pretty sure Swamp Fox was 8 episodes.
UncleEd wrote: Palisades was bought out as a result of Disney taking forever to approve anything. This dried up Palisades income so it was sold. If Disney had not bought the Muppets there would have been 2 more years of figures andsales were strong enough at the end to have had a full year of waves lined up in the planning stages. But Disney wouldn't approve anything because they do everything in house now so Palisades broke up the last wave Henson approved into comic con exclusives to give a gradual decline to the series.
Palisades was already in trouble if they couldn't expand beyond Muppet figures. Sad to see them go though. I LOVED those figures. I have several, including three of the playsets, though there are many more I still need to get.
UncleEd wrote: Muppet Central is where I read Toy Story is why the Christmas Toy is sat on. Muppet Family Christmas may never be released uncut. Disney made HIT cut Kermit from the Emmet Otter DVD and since HIT handles the Frangles who is to say HIT wouldn't make Disney cut the Fraggles? Christmas Toy and Bunny Picnic may still be over at HIT since Emmet Otter is. I think that all films like that where Kermit was involved should have gone with the Muppets themselves.
That sounds like sour grapes to me. I mean, Disney has released a lot of stuff with similar plotlines. Not releasing Christmas Toy because of its similarity to Toy Story doesn't really make any sense. It's just too hard to believe. Maybe if they were both computer animated I could believe it. That's too bad about Emmet Otter though. I thought Disney had gotten that one as part of their deal when I heard about its rerelease. Hadn't heard they were cutting that one up too. I am pretty sure they are supposed to have gotten Muppet Family Christmas though, but the issue there was with song rights I believe, so who knows what will happen with it. Sounds like they might not have gotten the Christmas Toy either then though. Yes, I thought that was the case, that the films with Kermit in them had gone to Disney in the deal. Too bad they didn't! Well, I think we can still hold SOME hope for Muppet Family Christmas.
UncleEd wrote: I love the Muppets at Walt Disney World too but I'd only go along with it if it were on a Disney World theme set with 70's stuff too. It still seems a bit too grand for a Treasure.
Well, that was what I was suggesting. As for it being too grand to be a Treasure, I love it but don't see it that way. It is one that I could see them selling on its own though, but it also would be nice as part of a WDW set. A set with Muppets, the EPCOT Opening show with Danny Kaye, Follow Us... To Walt Disney World, and the Mouseketeers At Walt Disney World would be an excellent Disney Treasures release in my opinion.
UncleEd wrote: I don't remember Ludwig ever being on Duck Tales but I could be wrong. I know he was popular in the 60's but that was the height of his popularity. Now he's a background supporting character at best. Sure he appears every now and then but he still gets confused with Uncle Scrooge. Some people even call him racist because he's a German scientist duck in the 60's so they say he must have been a defected Nazi. Isn't that stupid?
Yes, that's stupid, but I don't think THAT many people feel that way about him. True, he's a bit player nowadays, but the point is he still is well known. I don't think people confuse him with Scrooge as much now that we've seen DuckTales and Ludwig has been on House of Mouse and even appears on that new Clubhouse show (at least I think he does). As for him being on DuckTales, he was Launchpad's doctor in the Golden Fleece episode.
UncleEd wrote: I've seen a lot of early 80's Disney theatrical and TV live action stuff on DVD. This was when they were putting out vintage DVDs as well though. This should happen again. Do you know how many times I've read people asking for A Mom For Christmas on DVD?
Off the top of my head, the only live-action '80's Disney TV stuff I can think of on DVD is the Parent Trap sequel that was coupled with the latest release of the original Parent Trap. I could believe that I'm forgetting one or two others, but I'd be shocked if I'm forgetting anymore than that.
Incidentally, one Disney live-action TV show I am dying to see a DVD release of is "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: The TV Show," though I won't hold my breath.