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gaysnappercarr
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I'm getting the 4 Legacy DVD's on Friday and I'd like to watch all of the TLA's in the order that they were released.
For most of them, that's easy because only one per year was released. However, in 1952 two were released - Olympic Elk and Water Birds.
In 1953, three were released - Bear Country, Prowlers Of The Everglades and The Living Desert.
I tried looking through this thread, checked my Disney reference books, look at IMDB, but I can only get the year of release, not the day and date.
Does anyone have an online resource for release month and date?
I was also thinking of watching each of the Disney Animated Classics on the day they were released in 2007, so that would help with THAT project as well.
Thanks for any help!
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MichaeLeah
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| gaysnappercarr wrote: | I'm getting the 4 Legacy DVD's on Friday and I'd like to watch all of the TLA's in the order that they were released.
For most of them, that's easy because only one per year was released. However, in 1952 two were released - Olympic Elk and Water Birds.
In 1953, three were released - Bear Country, Prowlers Of The Everglades and The Living Desert.
I tried looking through this thread, checked my Disney reference books, look at IMDB, but I can only get the year of release, not the day and date.
Does anyone have an online resource for release month and date?
I was also thinking of watching each of the Disney Animated Classics on the day they were released in 2007, so that would help with THAT project as well.
Thanks for any help! |
All that information is in the reviews!
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Escapay
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Lars Vermundsberget wrote: | | Mr. Toad wrote: | | Why not - Disney owns them, Disney created them. Whats the difference between Frank and Ollie or Walter Lantz doing them? |
All right, I'm a bit "puzzled" here - maybe you could fill us in about that? |
I'm hoping I understood Mr. Toad correctly that I can answer.
There's three types of Oswald cartoons:
1. The 26 Oswald cartoons when they were produced by Disney
2. The 26 Oswald cartoons when they were produced and owned by Mintz
3. The 140 Oswald cartoons when they were produced and owned by Lantz
Mr. Toad, I believe, is saying that regardless who owned or produced whatever Oswald cartoons still survive, they're now owned by Disney, and since they were started by Disney, still have a rightful place in a Disney release. It's the same as WB owning and releasing pre-1986 MGM films (not to mention RKO's library as well), and Universal owning and releasing pre-1950 Paramount films. The company can still distribute the product even if they didn't make it.
In Disney's case, though, I think many fans would prefer to see the surviving Disney-produced Oswald shorts first, as he had no hand in the production of those by Mintz or Lantz (what with not owning them and having his artists defect to Mintz).
And I thought I read somewhere that Disney only owns the Disney-produced shorts, not the Mintz or Lantz ones?
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Bill W
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| MikeyMouse wrote: | Picked up my sets today at Best Buy for $24.99 each. My Costco is next door so I popped in to see the price they were offering (usually BB is cheaper the week of release, and then Costco is the price winner long-term), and was surprised to see they didn't have them out. They always have a good stock of treasures, so maybe they'll show up next week (perhaps a less-than-informed stock person thought they had to wait until the 12th along with the other tins).
Looking forward to diving into these! |
I ended up getting them at Best Buy too. My local Best Buy didn't get them in until Wednesday, and only had three copies of each. They had to search the back room for one of the volumes.
I was also surprised to not see these at Costco. I figure they would have been around $22 each there. Should have supported the site and bought them through Amazon. Oh well... |
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darth_deetoo
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Just watched the True Life Adventures : White Wildnerness, and I have to say I'm extremely impressed with the restoration on these volumes. Considering it's age, the picture is so sharp and clean. I think by their very nature, they are a bit dated - I've just been watching the excellent BBC production Planet Earth, which features some truly spectacular wildlife imagery, but technology has moved on so much over the last few decades, and these Disney films definitely have a charm all their own. I'm certainly not disappointed in my purchase - the whole package from the presentation, packaging and DVD content is excellent. I look forward to future Legacy discs.
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Ktrek
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Location: Denton, TX
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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We just received our sets today from Amazon and I must say I really like the packaging and design. I would have liked to seen a little better quality plastic cover on the tin but otherwise the sets are very nice. We watched White Wilderness and also Beaver Valley and both were just pristine quality. Disney has done a tremendous job remastering these. I remember seeing these at the theater when I was around 7 or 8 years old and maybe again on the Wonderful World of Disney. They were just as much fun to watch for me now as they were 40 years ago.
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Mr. Toad
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Location: Victoria, BC
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| Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Escapay wrote: | | Lars Vermundsberget wrote: | | Mr. Toad wrote: | | Why not - Disney owns them, Disney created them. Whats the difference between Frank and Ollie or Walter Lantz doing them? |
All right, I'm a bit "puzzled" here - maybe you could fill us in about that? |
I'm hoping I understood Mr. Toad correctly that I can answer.
There's three types of Oswald cartoons:
1. The 26 Oswald cartoons when they were produced by Disney
2. The 26 Oswald cartoons when they were produced and owned by Mintz
3. The 140 Oswald cartoons when they were produced and owned by Lantz
Mr. Toad, I believe, is saying that regardless who owned or produced whatever Oswald cartoons still survive, they're now owned by Disney, and since they were started by Disney, still have a rightful place in a Disney release. It's the same as WB owning and releasing pre-1986 MGM films (not to mention RKO's library as well), and Universal owning and releasing pre-1950 Paramount films. The company can still distribute the product even if they didn't make it.
In Disney's case, though, I think many fans would prefer to see the surviving Disney-produced Oswald shorts first, as he had no hand in the production of those by Mintz or Lantz (what with not owning them and having his artists defect to Mintz).
And I thought I read somewhere that Disney only owns the Disney-produced shorts, not the Mintz or Lantz ones?
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That was mostly the point. And I dont have a great deal of interest in the Mintz ones but the Lantz ones as I understand it they are of good quality in story and animation. So why not. At least the best of them.
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ichabod
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Location: The place where they didn't build EuroDisney
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Escapay wrote: | | And I thought I read somewhere that Disney only owns the Disney-produced shorts, not the Mintz or Lantz ones? |
Well that's what I thought, but after re-reading the old news stories I couldn't find mention of whether it was just the original 26 they had reeclaimed ownership of. Although If Disney has reclaimed the rights to Oswald in general, it would suggest they would also have ownership of the Mintz/Lantz ones too. |
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MK Sharp
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Toad wrote: | | And I dont have a great deal of interest in the Mintz ones but the Lantz ones as I understand it they are of good quality in story and animation. So why not. At least the best of them. |
Technically, some of the Mintz ones (those few that survive, anyway) should be of more interest because they were made by the ex-Disney staffers like Hugh Harman and Rudolph Ising, and carried on in much the same style.
The Walter Lantz / Bill Nolan films took off in a slightly different direction, and if you look at something like 1931's Oswald In Wonderland (on the Attack Of The 30s Characters DVD) you can see that there's a much more pronounced New York influence.
My understanding of the situation, incidentally, was that Disney reclaimed (a) the rights to the character of Oswald and (b) the copyrights in the 26 films produced by Disney in 1927/8 only. But being a monochrome toon fiend, I'm more than happy to have Disney release as much Ozzie as they want - heck, why not, Universal don't seem too keen on exploiting their animated back-catalogue.
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Mr. Toad
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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MK - Thanks I did not know that. The Mintz ones would be interesting then as you could see Harmon/Ising skills grow between Oswald and Bosko.
and by the way MK - I asked pages ago if you had a list of surviving Alice and Laugh O Gram shorts as well as Oswald. Also, the link you provided to Jim Hill's site for the Oswald rumours did not work. I couldnt find it searching his site either.
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Billy Moon
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| Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| darth_deetoo wrote: | | Just watched the True Life Adventures : White Wildnerness, and I have to say I'm extremely impressed with the restoration on these volumes. |
Wait til you get to Prowlers of the Everglades. Whoever restored it is either color blind or extremely sloppy, for they have managed to mix up the color channels. The correct colors can be seen by switching the red and blue channels. But I think it's only possible if you use a component video signal. |
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goofystitch
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have to wait until Christmas for these and the new Treasures...  |
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Flower's Friend
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:29 am Post subject: |
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On my True-Life Adventures Volume 1 - Wonders of the World I was having a little trouble opening the tin. On all my other True-Life Adventures the tins where very easy to open and I had no problems. Did anyone else find the tin on Volume one kinda hard to open, but the tins on the others more easy ? I can still send Volume back to amazon for a replacement.
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Chernabog
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Billy Moon wrote: | | darth_deetoo wrote: | | Just watched the True Life Adventures : White Wildnerness, and I have to say I'm extremely impressed with the restoration on these volumes. |
Wait til you get to Prowlers of the Everglades. Whoever restored it is either color blind or extremely sloppy, for they have managed to mix up the color channels. The correct colors can be seen by switching the red and blue channels. But I think it's only possible if you use a component video signal. |
Oh, no what have they done to Prowlers of the Everglades! 
How could they let this totally wrong color palette pass to the final and make the film totally screwed up.
I compared it to my old videotape and itīs totally different. Almost all blue parts should be yellow - red should be green and so on.
What a huge misstake!
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Pluto Region1
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I am totally confused about the packaging - what is it like? I tried to go to Best Buy last week but they do not have them in the store or in the computer system. I stood there and watched the guy put the title in and nothing came up.
Are you guys saying the bottom is a tin like WDT (Treasures) but the top is a hard plastic like a CD jewel case? Or is the top like an opague less brittle plastic like a black Aramay DVD case? I need to know what exactly the packaging is made of to decide whether or not to trust Amazon. Every tin I have ordered from Amazon arrives dented, so if this is another WDT type packaging, then I might as well see if I can find a brick and mortar store that sells them. Why couldn't they have just put these in a black Aramay case - I would have been perfectly happy with that.
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Escapay
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Here ya go, PR1. A few pictures that didn't get used in my Volume One review, along with one that did:
There's a plastic lid that's as sturdy as as durable as the rest of the case, but every time I tried to take a picture, there would be a glare. Since it's entirely clear and doesn't have any markings on it, I figured a picture wasn't really necessary anyway.
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Pluto Region1
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Escapay wrote: |
There's a plastic lid that's as sturdy as as durable as the rest of the case, but every time I tried to take a picture, there would be a glare. Since it's entirely clear and doe sn't have any markings on it, I figured a picture wasn't really necessary anyway.
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Thanks for posting, Escapay. I didn't know you were reviewing under the name Albert Gutierrez (is that you're real name?) You are a perfect person to be doing these reviews! I had read your review earlier for clues on the packaging and content. Okay so the top of the container is a clear plastic - like an acrylic, but the base is a metal/tin that's painted black. It looks to me then what I am seeing is straight through to the disc sitting in the base of the bottom portion of the package and the base is painted green? And it isn't actually the disc but a film cannister that is sitting in the base that contains the discs?
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Pluto Region1
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Escapay
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Pluto Region1 wrote: | | Escapay wrote: |
There's a plastic lid that's as sturdy as as durable as the rest of the case, but every time I tried to take a picture, there would be a glare. Since it's entirely clear and doe sn't have any markings on it, I figured a picture wasn't really necessary anyway.
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Thanks for posting, Escapay. I didn't know you were reviewing under the name Albert Gutierrez (is that you're real name?) |
Very few reviewers go by their UD name (a couple early ones included Captain Hook and MickeyMouseboy, while a recent one I know of is MichaeLeah).
| Pluto Region1 wrote: | | You are a perfect person to be doing these reviews! I had read your review earlier for clues on the packaging and content. |
Thanks! 
| Pluto Region1 wrote: | | Okay so the top of the container is a clear plastic - like an acrylic, but the base is a metal/tin that's painted black. It looks to me then what I am seeing is straight through to the disc sitting in the base of the bottom portion of the package and the base is painted green? |
The tin is black, with a gold lining painted on the front, and the back is a cardboard piece that comes off as it's a very flimsy glue (like the last couple of Treasures tins).
The interior is actually a removable green velvet-ish plastic base that when lifted, will show the passport booklet and insert. A couple people have no problem removing it and putting it back in, but I did (likely because I kept doing it the wrong way at first, but figured it out eventually).
| Pluto Region1 wrote: | | And it isn't actually the disc but a film cannister that is sitting in the base that contains the discs? |
Yep, and one of best aspects of the packaging. I probably should have included a better picture of the cardboard bases that hold the disc, but they essentially lie on top of each other without really damaging or scratching in any way.
A very unique package for a very unique DVD series!
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Pluto Region1
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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After just finding out that the WDT is only going to have a press run of ONLY 40,000 each, I am wondering how many of the TLA did Disney do? Escapay didn't mention a press run in his review; the only other review appears to be Luke's for Vol 3 and it says:
"Though the Legacy Collection line seems unquestionably inspired by the successful Walt Disney Treasures series and would appear to be limited in one way or another, one thing you won't find in the set is a designated number of your copy or a print run."
Has Disney stated how many of each are being produced?
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