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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 8:03 pm 
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If you are in any country other than the USA and understand how bit-torents work, now is your chance to get a copy of SOTS, as someone has uploaded it to Pirate Bay. They are uploading the Japanese laser disc version and giving complete commentary about how Disney won't release this due to supposed "racial" overtones.

Lot of people appear to be interested in this so the seeding may be reliable. In Europe, it is not illegal to trade movie or music files, but here in the USA it is. I am just passing on the info to people in Europe since this is not legal in the USA. As we all know, Disney refuses to release SOTS onto any format for us to purchase legally.

If this is an improper topic to post, I apologize in advance; I'm just trying to be helpful for those who have never seen this film. :D

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I wish Limewire has SOTS.

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I have a DVD-R copy coming to me from a friend in 'the Islands'. He says the quality is superb. Also is including the Warner Bros. "Coal Black" short as a bonus. I can't wait.

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I wish Limewire has SOTS.


it does have it musicradio77 thats how i found my copy

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:36 pm 
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Pluto Region1 wrote:
In Europe, it is not illegal to trade movie or music files, but here in the USA it is.

And im pretty sure it's legal in Canada too! thank's for letting us know!


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So the US is the only countr where they can`t get easily SOTS unless you download it?

that`s sad, considering that is a "made in the US" product


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Today in the mail I received my DVD-R of "Song of the South". The transfer is brilliant in color and sound, and the bonuses that were included are excellent. There is the original trailer for the film and the re-issue trailer, along with an interview with Walt Disney regarding the movie and its content.

My surprise bonus on the DVD was the inclusion of the controversial short from Warner Bros. of "Coal Black". I don't understand what all the uproar was over this. It is hilariously funny, and I don't think is crosses any forbidden boundaries. I am happy to have this in my collection now.

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So the US is the only countr where they can`t get easily SOTS unless you download it?

that`s sad, considering that is a "made in the US" product


No, no... you CAN download it in the USA but be prepared for a lawsuit or to go to jail. In other countries (I do not have a list of countries, but generally speaking, Europe) the governments there have not enacted laws saying it is illegal for their citizens to download music or movie files.

If you ever visit Pirate Bay be sure to visit their email section. It is hilarious. A bunch of letters from attorneys representing the music industry asking them to cease and desist from trading music! Pirate Bay posts their hilarious responses to these lawyers. For now, the country of Sweden where Pirate Bay is located is allowing Pirate Bay to operate without fear of prosecution, but I think the gov't would really like to comply with US laws. The problem is they have laws on the books that allows it.

I don't necessarily agree with this philosophy of downloading whatever you want, but I am just letting you know about SOTS because it is a movie that Disney is not making available for sale/refuses to release. Sadly, you will find many current titles on Pirate Bay and unfortunately there is no way for Disney (or other studios) to stop it.

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it does have it musicradio77 thats how i found my copy


Yes indeed! But will see what happens if I can have a chance to watch "Song of the South". The runtime is 94 minutes. I hope it would fit on one DVD-R rather than two separate CD-R copies. I hope this works. I've never seen SOTS before, I saw parts of it in a "Disneyland" episode "A Disneyland Story" aired in 1954. The movie itself is on a number of P2P programs like BearShare, iMesh and Shareazza.

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In other countries (I do not have a list of countries, but generally speaking, Europe) the governments there have not enacted laws saying it is illegal for their citizens to download music or movie files


Mexico would be one...there´s no law that says is a crime to download so it isn´t a crime

but yet the bootleg copies show that when the people wish for something they can´t buy, there will someone who takes advantage of these oportunity and when the very producers look thier mistake, they call it illegal in a way to stop the flood of money that should be theirs


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it does have it musicradio77 thats how i found my copy


Yes indeed! But will see what happens if I can have a chance to watch "Song of the South". The runtime is 94 minutes. I hope it would fit on one DVD-R rather than two separate CD-R copies. I hope this works. I've never seen SOTS before, I saw parts of it in a "Disneyland" episode "A Disneyland Story" aired in 1954. The movie itself is on a number of P2P programs like BearShare, iMesh and Shareazza.


I suppose it depends on how big the file is (file size determines quality). 'Tis a shame Disney cannot see fit to release. Perhaps if people all over the world download it and like it they can put pressure on Disney to release a legit copy!

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You CAN download it in the USA but be prepared for a lawsuit or to go to jail.


I don't want to get sued or go to jail. I don't go to Pirate Bay. I don't buy bootleg copies of SOTS, so I looked up on the back of an old TDK VHS tape that says:

Unauthorized recording of copyrighted televison programs, films, video tapes and other materials (such as bit-torrent) may infringe the right of copyright owners and be contrary to copyright laws.

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I don't want to get sued or go to jail. I don't go to Pirate Bay. I don't buy bootleg copies of SOTS, so I looked up on the back of an old TDK VHS tape that says:

Unauthorized recording of copyrighted televison programs, films, video tapes and other materials (such as bit-torrent) may infringe the right of copyright owners and be contrary to copyright laws.




I agree with you whole-heartedly on that one, musicradio77. I don't download movies or television shows off the internet for that reason.

I do think Disney is missing out on what could turn out to be a potential moneymaker by not releasing SOTS to home video/DVD. And I do think that all movie and television studios are missing out on a big moneymaker by not setting up legit download sites for movies and television shows. ITunes (and others) showed that music downloading could be very profitable for the music industry. I have no doubt that legit video downloading would prove to be just as popular, and profitable.


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I am the Doctor wrote:
I agree with you whole-heartedly on that one, musicradio77. I don't download movies or television shows off the internet for that reason.

I do think Disney is missing out on what could turn out to be a potential moneymaker by not releasing SOTS to home video/DVD. And I do think that all movie and television studios are missing out on a big moneymaker by not setting up legit download sites for movies and television shows. ITunes (and others) showed that music downloading could be very profitable for the music industry. I have no doubt that legit video downloading would prove to be just as popular, and profitable.


Yes, as i stated at the outset, this message was for our members who do not have to abid by US copyright laws.... the confusion came in when some of our USA members didn't quite understand what I was saying about the legality issues.... I don't condone illegal downloading of music or movies either. I think it robs Disney of money but in the case with SOTS no economic damage occurs to Disney since Disney refuses to release the film. As for downloading movies.... I don't know enough about it to make an intelligent comment. I dont want to watch a movie on my computer, but my husband says it would not be difficult to get the downloaded file from your computer over to the television set, in which case it seems like alot of work just to watch a movie. Why do that when you can sign up for Netflicks or one of those services or just buy the movies on TV from the cable?

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i downloaded it cause you guys were talking about it in the song of the south thread

you guys really made me wanna see it so i downloaded it and i liked it so im definetly gonna buy it if it ever comes out on dvd

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Just wondering if "So dear to my heart" is also available for download ?


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Tony wrote:
Just wondering if "So dear to my heart" is also available for download ?


Maybe, but it is available in the UK, and considering that you live in Australia, should play on any player. Whilst you may not like PAL discs for the minor speedup, if you can take it, go for it and order it from that site (they're better than Amazon UK on both price and postage).

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As for downloading this even if the laws of your country tell you not to, I'd say as long as you don't make a bunch of copies for sale no one is likely to bother. So then it's ultimately up to your conscience and sound judgement. As long as Disney does not offer a legitimate copy of the film available to you (in your "time and place") you are not really robbing Disney of any money, either. Most people who care to download this are probably even going to buy the "real thing" if it shows up eventually.


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I just watched it for the first time ever, I downloaded it off of Lime Wire.

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