Marky_198 wrote:And Wonderlicious, even after Disney Duster explained it to you, I explained it to you, and the Cogsworh clips are right in front of you, you STILL don't see it?
That's really tragic, to say the least.
Honestly, if you don't see any difference between those clips BESIDES the changed movements and colors, you shouldn't even speak about the classics on a forum like this.
Let me ask you a few questions. Who has more posts here? Who has been around on this forum for longer? Who has read the most books on Disney and animation?
And what do you consider to be a classic (I'm going to speak just in Disney terms; I'm not going to be arrogant by mentioning classical music or Ancient Rome and Greece)? I could be wrong, but I've never heard you mention anything like
Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland, Lady and the Tramp and above all
Fantasia. It appears to me that you only wish to discuss (at least positively) films containing princesses and fairies, which really says something.
As I'm sure you can already tell, what I have just highlighted I consider to be a personal attack, which defines your arrogance to a T. Are you trying to test my bloody patience (or everyone's for that matter)? Whether or not I can see the difference, that was not the point of my post. Sure, there may be some difference, I may or may not prefer one version. If you wanted everybody to notice the lack of the shadow, why didn't you say that in the first place instead of writing vague comments such as "it looks so sequely!"? Such comments aren't very precise and a lot more people need hints as to what you want to say. The fact is, though, I'm getting a bit tired of reading a never-ending thread that has become a complete parody of itself, and makes a relatively benign subject seem like a hot political or ethical debate. Seriously, some people's fandom is getting a bit too intense, and it's making me question whether or not I like
Beauty and the Beast very much any more, as such silly talk makes me view it as trivial. And if anyone is so offended by the change of Cogsworth's animation, wouldn't it surely be available on the DVD? Naturally, I don't have it on me right now to go and check, and whilst it is true that the original theatrical version on the DVD is a somewhat ambiguous term, I'm sure they did provide the original theatrical version for the scene up until when the Beast roars after letting Belle go (since the West Wing would have otherwise suddenly become magically clean in the version not containing "Human Again"), which would probably mean that Cogsworth's animation and shadow still are there. If I'm wrong, then feel free to correct me.
Frankly, I don't have to come on to this forum any more if I don't want to. I'm doing the final year of my degree, have lots of friends who I like to catch up with and could spend some of my extra time working for charity or something similar. And I know that lots of posters have gone and been divas and said (after an argument) "OMG, this forum 'aint what it used to be, you must all hate me, I'M LEAVING!!!". But I'm above doing such flamboyant exits, only to come crawling back two days later. So I refuse to leave this forum, as I only wish to do so for genuine reasons (like being really busy with stuff in my real life, having no internet etc). Get used to that, people.
To conclude, Marky, will you please just grow up? You're doing yourself disservice by your constant fundamentalist nature, and making the Disney Discussion much too fiery than it should be. I only used the Homer Simpson clip to describe my frustration over how endless and aimless this thread seems to be. Somebody please close it. Really, please.
