Tim Burton's Pinocchio

[Sotiris]

In the version being developed at Warner Bros., Geppetto embarks on a quest to reunite with his missing marionette. The well-regarded script is by Pushing Daisies creator Bryan Fuller. Dan Jinks is producing.

Neither Burton nor Downey has a deal with Warners, but sources say Burton is keen to direct the film and has begun talks with the studio, so it's just a question of whether Pinocchio will be his next movie. The director also is eyeing an adaptation of 'Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children' at Fox, among other projects. Warners wants to move quickly with Pinocchio, so if Burton chooses to make another movie first, the studio might move on to other directors.

According to two well-placed sources, Downey has expressed serious interest in the project (and in working with Burton), but his busy schedule must still be worked out. Warner Bros. is hoping that Burton and Downey commit soon so the project can be fast-tracked.

Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-v ... ney-270931

[Semaj]

UH-OH

[yamiiguy]

When was the last time Burton directed a good film?

[Sotiris]

When was the last time Burton directed a good film?

That would be Sweeney Todd in 2007.

[Disney Duster]

Thanks, but I would include the part that talks about Robert Downy Jr as being Gepetto, Sotiris since it keeps referring to Downy in other parts you included.

Why does this sound bad? Hasn't everyone always said Pinocchio is such a dark fantasy, and Tim burton is such a dark fantasy director? What's the problem?

At first I thought it was that Tim wasn't doing enough original projects...but then I remembered, most of his stuff has actually been based on previous ideas and properties, sans Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, Nightmare Before Christmas, Mars Attacks, and Big Fish. All other movies he's done have been based on something else, even Ed Wood is based on some other guy's life story, even Frankenweenie is sort of based on Frankenstein.

[slave2moonlight]

So, two Pinocchio films are being planned? Like Snow White? Why is there always two of everything? Ants and A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc. and Shrek, Finding Nemo and Shark Tale, Megamind and Despicable Me, jeez. How is this happening? This bugs me way more than hearing about another remake, sequel, movie based on TV show, or live-action version of a cartoon, which are what seem to set everyone else off on the internet.

Anyways, I rarely would say something like this, and I love Pinocchio and would happily see another one, but honestly, after Disney's and the one that had JTT's voice, I really don't need another. I liked both of those a lot. Well, I LOVE the Disney one. Of course, they ruined the J.T.T. one in the end by having him play the real-boy version too. He was way too old and it seemed silly, and then he did that stupid, "How about carving me a girlfriend?" line. Ugh. But, the rest was great. Really though, after the Disney version, that one was so good that I'm set. I suppose a Tim Burton or Del Toro version would be interesting though, but if they're CGI and/or stop motion, entirely, then that's going to turn me off a bit. I'm tired of CGI, and stop-motion seems like a weird way to do Pinocchio since the whole cast will be puppets then... I know Rankin/Bass did it, but there's a good example of what I'm talking about... For me, the only right way to do it outside of hand-drawn animation (or CGI, which I said I was sick of) is the way the J.T.T. movie did it. Preferably with the fox and the cat done int CGI or something.

Anyways, as for Burton, I love some of his stuff, some of it I just find okay (despite its popularity), and there's some I find watchable but also largely terrible, like his Wonka. I feel like a feature-length Frankenweenie is a terrible idea, but I'm super excited for his Dark Shadows.

[Semaj]

After Alice in Wonderland, I can't trust Tim Burton with anymore fairy tales.

[TheValentineBros]

After Alice in Wonderland, I can't trust Tim Burton with anymore fairy tales.

Well, Alice in Wonderland and Pinocchio aren't really fairy tales, but yeah, I don't trust Tim Burton to remake things. I mean, he even ruined Planet of the Apes.

[Dr Frankenollie]

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[yamiiguy]

Dark Shadows looks good but I will go in with low expectations. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[estefan]

At first I thought it was that Tim wasn't doing enough original projects...but then I remembered, most of his stuff has actually been based on previous ideas and properties, sans Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, Nightmare Before Christmas, Mars Attacks, and Big Fish. All other movies he's done have been based on something else, even Ed Wood is based on some other guy's life story, even Frankenweenie is sort of based on Frankenstein.

Mars Attacks was actually based on a series of trading cards and Big Fish was based on a book.

[slave2moonlight]

Chloe Moretz and the kid who plays the young Tabard in Hugo are in it? Dark Shadows is becoming more and more interesting.

Anyway, I don't have high hopes for Burton's Pinocchio; virtually all of his post-Sleepy Hollow work is shit.

Well, I loved Sweeney Todd. Haven't seen Corpse Bride, but I hear good things. I rather enjoy Planet of the Apes and Alice in Wonderland too, and I remember Big Fish as being decent.

Sleepy Hollow is undoubtedly my favorite of his, but I think Dark Shadows will trump it. This picture really blows me away. If only he would eventually bring in Hugh Jackman as Quentin for a sequel, ha.

[Disney Duster]

Mars Attacks was actually based on a series of trading cards and Big Fish was based on a book.

Thanks. So he's done even less original stuff than I thought. And I thought he was losing his original ideas.

[ajmrowland]

After Alice in Wonderland, I can't trust Tim Burton with anymore fairy tales.

i blame the studio and the screenplay

[SpringHeelJack]

Look, this sounds as crappy as the next piece of crap, but I'd like to clear up this notion that original ideas are somehow inherently superior to adaptations. They're not.

[slave2moonlight]

Look, this sounds as crappy as the next piece of crap, but I'd like to clear up this notion that original ideas are somehow inherently superior to adaptations. They're not.

I guess the idea would be that you are getting the material straight from the source. No chance of things getting lost in translation (just stifled by execs). Whether or not that makes a film superior is open to debate. The way I figure, they have equal possibility of being good or terrible, or anything else inbetween...

[Disney Duster]

Look, this sounds as crappy as the next piece of crap, but I'd like to clear up this notion that original ideas are somehow inherently superior to adaptations. They're not.

NO I meant I was worried that Tim Burton wanted to make original ideas but he didn't think he could, or got lazy, or was pressured by other studios.

Also, in general, it's safe to say that as original people the better thing to do is try to make original ideas than just adaptations. New people should make new ideas. We should choose making something new over re-doing something old if we can, and if we feel it.

[ajmrowland]

adaptation is the literal form of inspiration.

[Disney Duster]

adaptation is the literal form of inspiration.

That's kind of a nice quote, but it's not exactly true just a nice way to think of it. We have ideas of what originality is. We should srive for them instead of give up on them.

[ajmrowland]

^But the fact is not that we're not striving, but the studios have given up on them, assuming that originality was ever a high priority.

meanwhile so many works of gaming, film, and literature have sparked creativity in their fans, often original ideas are born, and so is fanfiction.