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Personally, I thought tonight’s was an amazing episode. I loved the way they did the flashback of Susan and Mike’s relationship together--very good. I can’t believe there’s only have 5 more episodes left of my favorite still-airing TV series! :(

Leaping off what somebody else speculated on another forum--I’m wondering if the series finale leaves all the housewives truly “desperate” and alone. Bree, Susan, and Lynette are alone already; which makes me wonder if Carlos will end up going to jail.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:I loved the way they did the flashback of Susan and Mike’s relationship together--very good.
That was indeed quite good.

To tell you the truth I'm pissed at the tragic turn of the final season. Although it was doom and gloom throughout, there was still hope that somehow they would make it through. These characters have been through so much, I'd like them to end things on a happier note. Now, with killing Mike off, this can't happen.

Even if Lynette didn't get back together with Tom, and even if Carlos does get arrested, they still could have made it work in the episodes left. But now with Mike gone, it's impossible.
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I'm so pissed! After everything they've been through, HE'S the one who dies? I was hoping it would be someone else last night because Mike, Jaunita (up on that roof), and Karen would have been too obvious. Oh well.

I feel bad for Susan. She can never get a break in relationships! And poor MJ. :-(

A thought: Do you think Mike will narrate the next episode since that's what happened when Rex & Edie died?
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These writers are a piece of work! NOW they imply that Tom and Lynette might still end up together. It looks like at the end everyone will get their "happy ending" except Susan. That's so unfair. Great work in pissing off the fans!
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We need Disneyboy to change the heading of this thread. We know that this is the last season of the show, so he should change the titles of the thread to something like "Desperate Housewives - Say Goodbye to Wisteria Lane" or anything than what it already is.
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Sotiris wrote:These writers are a piece of work! NOW they imply that Tom and Lynette might still end up together. It looks like at the end everyone will get their "happy ending" except Susan. That's so unfair. Great work in pissing off the fans!
I don't know, most fans hate Susan--so maybe they did that for the fans. :lol: I don't believe Lynette will get back with Tom though, although I would like that to happen. I feel like Jane and Tom are too close at this point.

Besides, I can't see them finding any way at all to give Bree a "happy" ending.
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Desperate Housewives returns this Sunday, for the final two episodes of the series. I can’t help feeling a little sad about its departure, but I’m glad the series is going out on a relatively high note. The eighth season has probably been the best the show’s been in several years.

I do believe the introduction of new head writers (former writers of Frasier) at the beginning of season 7 has helped the show. Since the beginning of season 7, you can see they’ve put more focus on how the characters behave, why they behave that way, and how they can grow and develop from there. As an ode to my favorite series, I’ll rank the eight seasons:

1. Season 1[/b] ~ Not very hard to explain. The show was hitting it on all cylinders. The mystery, comedy, plotting, pacing, and shocks were all on point--no punch was drawn. I believe it’s hard to follow this debut season only because the show began so dark, they had to ultimately humanize the characters somewhat for audiences to root for them in the long run. In the first season alone, all the housewives committed some kind of serious crime--Gabrielle’s statutory rape; Bree’s cover-up of her son’s hit-and-run; Lynette pilfering her children’s ADD medication; and Susan burning Edie’s house down. They would rarely do anything this serious again, until season 8 when they hid a murder. The Paul Young is easily the most complex mystery they’ve had, and the only one that justifiably carries a 24-episode season without lagging.

2. Season 3 ~ This would be my favorite season overall if only Marcia Cross hadn’t been pregnant. The mystery was probably the best they had other than season 1, and Kyle McLachlan is a great addition as Orson, but it ultimately ended too quickly because of Cross’s pregnancy. Every character except for Gabrielle seemed to shine this year--and even she had her moments. “Bang’ was one of the series’ best episodes, although it unfortunately spawned the disaster episode that would recur every season after until season 8 (season 4’s tornado, season 5’s fire, season 6’s plane crash, and season 7’s riot). The final episodes (without Cross) weren’t well-received, for multiple reasons. I know I didn’t enjoy the Edie/Carlos storyline at all, but the Rick-Lynette thing didn’t bother me as much as it did a lot of viewers.

3. Season 2 ~ Usually regarded as a case of sophomore slump, this season is actually one of the best, imo. Sure, Susan has no story arc and the Applewhite mystery hits a particular bum note (though Alfre Woodard does the best with what she’s given), but a lot of amazing things happened this season as well--particularly with the character of Bree, who was my favorite housewife for most of the series. Harriet Samson Harris makes the best addition this season, entering as Paul Young’s nemesis and dominating every scene she’s featured in.

4. Season 8 ~ This season isn’t without its share of slip-ups, but it has been pretty incredible. Gabrielle’s growth in season 5 really paid off. She’s ended up being the most interesting character in seasons 7 and 8, whereas she was once the weak link on the show (imo). As I guessed at the end of season 7, this really has been Felicity Huffman’s season; Lynette has had an amazing storyline this season, which for once puts more of the blame on the housewife rather than the husband for a marriage’s breakdown. Susan is horrendous this year. That’s generally the case; I believe the only time Susan is ever likable is when bad things happen to her or she’s playing the mother role. Season 7 was probably the first time since season 1 that I didn’t completely hate Susan, and she had the crap taken out of her that season. Bree was a little disappointing this year, but she, too, has had a lot going on; my only regret there is that Danielle and Andrew couldn’t have been more involved. Again, Vanessa Williams/Renee serves no purpose. I believe the only thing I’ve liked about the addition of Vanessa Williams is she gives Lynette a character to play off of.

5. Season 7 ~ I felt this season is one of the best of the later years. The only weak point this year is the show’s struggle to find storylines for Bree--other than a new love interest. That said, Chuck and Keith were probably the best men she ever dated on the show (even though Chuck go crazy in season 8 after being dumped). Surprisingly, Susan, in my opinion, had the strongest storylines this season. Not only did she build bridges with Paul, her struggle with debt which led her to softcore pornography and resulted in the loss of her teaching job was a throwback to darker and more “desperate” storylines from season 1. Gabrielle was dealt the soapiest storyline the show’s ever delivered with a switched-at-birth baby, which ended up much more interesting than I would ever have expected. The plotting was well-done, as her search for her real daughter ultimately led her back to her own childhood issues--resulting in a series finale that really gave me feelings of season 1 yet again. With Lynette, I wasn’t really crazy about most of her long-term storylines (Tom’s affair with Renee; her insecurities with Tom’s new job), but there were many short-term arcs that I enjoyed. The cameo of her mother-in-law was especially heartfelt, and her interactions with Penny (who tries to help her with mothering, which Lynette obviously hates) humanized a character who is too often written as heartless. My only nitpick this season was the addition of Vanessa Williams, who, although I love her, seemed to only be tacked on because she needed a job following the end of Ugly Betty and she has friends in high places. The show had no idea what to do with her and, at most, she comes off as a hackneyed Edie replica with a little Cruella thrown in. My favorite thing to come from this season--the re-casting of Penny! The new girl is adorable, and I love every scene she has with Felicity Huffman.

6. Season 5 ~ While a little bit of this season felt like it was trying too hard--and the yellow coloring is ugly, btw--I feel that this year was a success overall and the time jump benefited the characters. Gabrielle profited the most from the time jump; we jumped right into motherhood and poverty with her, which ultimately gave her more of an earthiness and likeability after seeing how much she was willing to sacrifice for her family. Lynette’s storylines were pretty dark this season, with Lynette struggling to keep a hateful family from imploding (or killing one another). Susan was the weak link of the women, with a very uninspiring romance with Gale Harold (Queer As Folk) and predictable reunion with Mike; her best storylines revolve around her divorce and her interactions with her son, MJ, who was well-cast, imo. Bree’s business gave the character a very abrupt change, a change I enjoyed for the most part, and her storylines were strong for the most part; I only wish they had done more with Andrew’s mother-in-law, who was only seen in one episode of the series. Also, they pretty much character assassinated Orson, a character I loved in seasons 3 and 4. Katherine suffered from the writers not knowing what to do with her. The weakest part of this season was the mystery. I didn’t mind that it was easy to figure out, just that Dave didn’t really do much damage to Wisteria Lane or to Susan. You can only feel suspense if there’s real danger, and Dave really left no impact on anyone. The concept was decent, however, and Neal McDonough does a great job.

7. Season 4 ~ Season 4 saw the introduction of Dana Delaney as Katherine Mayfair. Though this season seemed to be well-received, I was left cold for the most part. The mystery was a straight-up Lifetime special and a lot of the storylines were re-hashed or downright bland (Susan and Gabrielle, especially). The only highlights for this season, for me, were Bree and Katherine’s interactions, Polly Bergen as Lynette’s mother, and Bree’s pregnancy cover-up attempt. The much-hyped tornado episode was probably one of their worst disaster episodes, considering nothing significant occurred. It only allowed Felicity Huffman to give an amazing performance, although her enormous family was left entirely untouched.

8. Season 6 ~ Unfortunately, this season (and season 2) are generally thought of as the worst of the series. It’s true that this season probably hurt the series--in the ratings, at least--and that it is, imo, the weakest of the series, but there’s still a lot going for it. Bree’s and Lynette’s storylines were probably the strongest this season, with Rex’s long-forgotten son and Lynette’s maternal difficulties offering interesting situations; Susan spent most of her time reacting to a not-as-entertaining-as-you’d-expect psycho Dana Delaney and Gabrielle was mostly involved with the very weak mystery (Drea de matteo). I liked the idea of the strangler storyline, and the actor cast does a great job with the role of Eddie, but the end result was banal. Julie Benz made a horrendous cameo as a stripper, while also participating in a very badly-executed lesbian storyline. It’s too bad John Barrowman didn’t show up on a better year.

My hopes for the series finale:

~ Please give Lynette a happy ending! I was mostly ambivalent about Tom and Lynette separating or getting back together until the episode where Lynette signed the divorce papers. Lynette’s breakdown was hard to watch. I have much more invested in these two than I ever did for Mike and Susan.
~ If Bree is given a romantic ending, I hope it’s with Brian Austin Green’s Keith. He’s the only halfway normal love interest she’s had (though I liked Orson, two negatives do not make a positive). I actually would like them to get back together. It looks like they’ll be pairing her with her lawyer at this point though.
~ Some kind of resolution with Zach Young. With the ending to season 7, everything seemed wrapped up with Paul and Felicia, but Zach was still left unexplored. I thought they might do something with him when Julie came back pregnant; that Zach might be the father. So far, this is the only real loose end that irks me. (Kayla is another one, but I can live with the show not coming back to her)
~ Guest stars galore! I’ve already read about many former characters returning/cameoing, but I’m still hoping Leslie Ann Warren and Polly Bergen will both return one last time. There are a lot of other characters from past years that I would love to see again (Sam, Eddie, Angie, Dave, Nina, Betty, Austin, Ana, John, Rick, Maisy, etc.), but it’s unlikely. I wish they would have had Andrew and Justin get back together at the end, too, but Danielle is also divorced. And I would really like if Gabrielle and her mother would face off once and for all, to resolve the stepfather storyline completely.

Sorry for the huge post, but I wanted to give Desperate Housewives some kind of send-off. :)
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I'm amazed (and glad) they got so many people back for that last shot as Susan drove around the lane, everyone from Alma Hodge to Mona Clark to Beth Young. I just wish Nicollette Sheridan had overlooked the case to appear in the finale, too. And that whole montage to music scene had me crying. In regards to the housewives' futures, I only wish they had stayed together, but it's realistic for friendships to fade as time goes by.

I can't believe Desperate Housewives won't be back next year. I've loved the show from beginning to end, even with slip-ups along the way. I've never really got this attached to a TV series before; it added a bright spot--something to look forward to--in my own "quiet moments of desperation" the past eight years. Next Fall's Sundays will be pretty empty. :(
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Even with all the PM's I have sent DisneyBoy about the title of this link, I will add that I will miss this show more than I probably should. All the characters were so well written, and each season was very memorable for different reasons. Marc Cherry was amazing and the rest of his crew should be given great big 'atta-boys' for all their hard work.

Loved the montage of "one life ends and another begins", and Susan's "drive around the block", brought back a lot of memories.

Can't wait to this final season on DVD so I will have another complete collection of one of my favorite shows.
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I loved the ending! I've been watching since day one in Sept 2004 and I will miss it!

Kinda disappointing that they didnt play poker again, but I guess that's life.
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I finally just finished the last episode. All I have to say is that I feel as though it was the perfect ending. I feel content with how all the characters had completed their arcs and moved on the better and greater things. I am saddened that it seems they no longer kept in contact with one another, but then again that is how life goes and we tend to move on with our lives and away from people as our lives change.

It was a wonderfully emotional ending, and I thoroughly enjoyed it!
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Sad news... :(

Desperate Housewives' Star Kathryn Joosten Dies at 72

The Huffington Post | By Maggie Furlong Posted: 06/02/2012 2:45 pm Updated: 06/02/2012 3:04 pm


Actress Kathryn Joosten, best known as "Desperate Housewives'" most meddlesome neighbor Karen McKluskey, died Friday after a long battle with lung cancer. She was 72.

Joosten's death came less than three weeks after the emotional "Desperate Housewives" series finale, which saw the redemption and eventual death of Mrs. McKluskey as well.

Joosten won two Emmys for Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series for her "Desperate" role, in 2005 and 2008, and was nominated for a third time in 2010.

Prior to her residence on Wisteria Lane, Joosten had another tony TV address: The White House. She played Mrs. Landingham, President Bartlet's (Martin Sheen) secretary on "The West Wing" for the series' first two seasons until her character died in a car accident.

She also had memorable TV roles on "Scrubs," "Joan of Arcadia," "My Name Is Earl," "General Hospital" and "Dharma & Greg."

Joosten was first diagnosed with lung cancer in 2001. The cancer returned in September 2009. After Joosten underwent surgery and chemotherapy treatments, she was officially declared cancer-free in January 2010. She was an advocate for lung cancer awareness and research, even doing speaking engagements about her battle.
I know Joosten had been battling lung cancer several years ago, which is why that storyline ended up interwoven into her character, but I had no idea she was in such a bad place health place. Even though she was 72, it feels very sudden. A very talented actress--she will be missed! :(

If someone wants to make an individual thread for this, they can--I just put it here since she was last associated with Desperate Housewives, but she was well-known for a role on The West Wing as well.
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I've just read that Lupe Ontiveros--"Mama Solis"--has passed from liver cancer. :( I have to say that I truly thought she was a great actress, who brought a lot of vibrancy and reality to the characters she played. I recently read an article in which she had expressed pride in having been able to give life to so many maids in her career, and I did appreciate that perspective on the lack of diverse Latino roles in television/film.

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Although I've seen much more of her, I will probably remember her most for Selena and Desperate Housewives. :) Rest in peace.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:I've just read that Lupe Ontiveros--"Mama Solis"--has passed from liver cancer. :( I have to say that I truly thought she was a great actress, who brought a lot of vibrancy and reality to the characters she played. I recently read an article in which she had expressed pride in having been able to give life to so many maids in her career, and I did appreciate that perspective on the lack of diverse Latino roles in television/film.

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Although I've seen much more of her, I will probably remember her most for Selena and Desperate Housewives. :) Rest in peace.
Aw she was also in the Goonies. Lupe and Kathryn rest in peace.
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Just wanted to let everyone know - that doesn't already - that Desperate Housewives: The Complete Eighth Season was released today.

There is also a coupon for $10 off located here.

For anyone looking for the best price, Best Buy has it available for $27.99. With coupon, the price will be $17.99.

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I pre-ordered it just the day (along with Once Upon a Time season 1) through Amazon! I believe they added a $10-off coupon automatically, because it ended up only costing around $30.

I've been thinking about letting my mom have the DVD's in the future and buying the seasons 1-8 set to get the bonus material it has. :lol:
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Marc Cherry comments on the possibility of a reboot.
Marc Cherry wrote:People have approached me about rebooting Desperate Housewives, but it's kind of like my feeling toward The Golden Girls: The Golden Girls was a terrific idea, but the magic of that show was the cast. We had the perfect group of women. With Desperate Housewives, I lucked out with that original cast and I had something to say with that show. If I was to do a reboot of it, I would have to come up with a brand-new idea of what fueled it. I know the formula, and it certainly would be great to try with more time and money.
Source: https://ew.com/tv/showrunners-weigh-in-tv-reboot-trend/
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If I'm being honest, I wouldn't want a reboot. I would like a revival with the original actors back, even if it was only for one-off season of 10 episodes, closer to a miniseries, for example. The only way I could see a reboot working is if Marc Cherry wasn't attached in more than a copyright sense (ie, that he would get paid for the use of the show's brand / title). In the latter half of the series, you could tell he was sort of over it and the writing suffered to a degree. It was still a good show, but the actors were doing the heavy lifting in those last couple of seasons.
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